What is the thought process behind firing someone mid season and not letting him finish out the year??
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
What is the thought process behind firing someone mid season and not letting him finish out the year??
Maybe they have a competent assistand head coach who can step up and do the same job without all the Lane Kiffin bullshit?
No. They do not.
he can kick any player's ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clearly u did not watch the d-line play last night.
Maybe USC has an 10 year old fan who is a whiz at NCAA 13 and has a better record than Kiffin.
Save further embarrassment?
Al will be HC and OC and get their offense going. Then he will hire Greg Mattison as DC to regroup their defense.
DB then announces that Brady Hoke will be HC, OC, and DC for this season.
Their season is already lost at 0-2 in the Pac-12 with UCLA and Stanford still to play. Just like Ohio State in 2011, USC will have their coach hired by the end of November and will recruit like gangbusters until Signing Day like Urban Meyer did after he got hired. They will also have the drop on any other major program that will be hiring this offseason (possibly Texas) just like Ohio State had on PSU in 2011.
They can do this, but that limits your coaching pool to people that aren't coaching at the moment. it worked for OSU because Urb was broadcasting and available for hire. Who is out there that USC would want? By waiting to hire a permanent coach at the end of the season, you can at least poach from other schools.
I think they just did it because they were sick of Kiffin's shit. And either way, by firing him now, you still signal to recruits that there's going to be a new regime come next season. At least makes it a little clearer to them.
You can "officially" hire the head coach right when their regular season ends, but the school will probably have the hire done through back channels in advance. Urban Meyer was "officially" hired right after the Michigan game at the end of Ohio State's regular season. Even if he were still coaching at Florida at the time, he would have been able to take the job if he wanted. Didn't really matter that he was out of coaching in terms of timing. As long as the hire is made before December, the school will have enough time to recover. Another example would be Kevin Sumlin: Texas A&M hired Sumlin right after Houston's season ended (he skipped out on the bowl game).
It may limit you from hiring a current NFL head coach, but I think it is unlikely one would step down from the NFL to USC. You probably could still get away with hiring an NFL coordinator like PSU did with Bill O'Brien.
"Urban Meyer was "officially" hired right after the Michigan game at the end of Ohio State's regular season."
Which is a total BS move on Meyer's part, because he got all of the internal TV prep access to the Michigan program since he called that game. Why Michigan allowed him that access is beyond me.
There are lots of retired NFL coaches working on TV right now. Like you said, not sure if USC would want them or if they are even realistic options.
They no longer care about this season. This firing 1) gives the interim guy a chance to audition for the job or 2) gives them a chance to arrange contacts with interested coaches, one of whom they'll probably hire in December.
When your team started out 2012 as preseason #1, and 13 months later you're losing to Washington State at home, and 62-41 to Arizona State....things have to change.
Also, because your coach is Lane Kiffin
Keeping around a coach you've already decided to fire is not a good idea. It's bad for recruiting and most of the news around the team will be negative. Now the news will be more positive, people looking ahead to the new coach, speculating on who it will be.
USC has a tremendously wealthy booster/graduate resource with which to raise cash (arguably the wealthiest in the country IIRC). They can really open the checkbook for a top-shelf coach.
I'm curious as to what lies ahead for Kiffin. Nobody will hire this guy again, will they?
If I were Lane Kiffin I'd take my millions and retire in the Caribbean, Europe or somewhere exotic. I'm guessing he won't...
And top shelf players, amirite!
Along with his millions, don't forget the trophy wife and nice family.
Falling up: the story of Lane Kiffen's life. I expect to see him get hired by Texas at the end of the season.
Kiffin should become a TV commentator. He'd probably be pretty good at it.
Beyond that, if you're a MAC school or similar, a guy like that might create a little buzz.
with a lineup overflowing with 5 star recruits, maybe? I give Pat Haden credit for cutting his losses and not letting this guy fuck up the program one week longer.
I don't think I'd describe the situation at USC as overflowing with 5-stars. Do they have some? Absolutely. But they are crazy thin everywhere on that roster. After Lee went down, they're left with TWO scholarship WRs on the roster. Not exactly overflowing.
Mitigate further damages and, I'm guessing, Kiffin rubs people incredibly poorly. Might as well move along.
I've worked in all levels of college athletics administration and unless a coach does something to get fired (i.e. that crazy man at Rutgers), usually an AD never wants to fire a coach mid-season.
However, Haden had no choice.
They are going to get destroyed by Stanford, I assume they play Oregon and obviously they play UCLA. It was only going to get worse.
As it gets worse, especially in LA, you lose recruits, fans, boosters, etc.
On top of that, what if they go 7-5, but they BEAT...say Oregon and UCLA? Yuck. Now it's not as clear as it is today. You still want to fire him, but it's a little harder when a coach rallies and closes strong with some big wins.
...at a smaller school with less scrutiny you're more likely to ride it out. I mean, you're not going to hire anyone right now unless John Gruden or Herm Edwards come knocking on your door. So ideally you'd want to finish the year. Fire after that last game, have an interim coach the bowl game (if you get one), and hire your new coach during the bowl season. Like Ohio, you'd likely already have someone hired by then (Urban was hired behind the scenes before the Michigan game despite what he says...his agent was working that week we were playing (and destroying) Nebraska. That's fact).
In the end, Kiffin didn't deserve the job to begin with, he wasn't a nice guy and he didn't succeed at a place where you have to succeed. I don't feel bad for him. Just like I didn't feel bad for Rich Rod. And like Rich Rod, he'll land on his feet somewhere making millions.
Great point about Kiffin staying on and getting lucky against UCLA or Oregon. Frankly, I am surprised Haden kept him around (in hindsight, of course). Kiffin is a true douche-canoe, I just hope he doesn't end up in the B1G.
USC looked horrible last night. I make the remark that as Kiffin was walking the sidelines, a few times I noticed nobody wanted to get near him. Dead man walking...
I don't feel sorry for RR either, but for all his faults, he's ten times the HC that Kiffin could ever hope to be.
EMU is doing that with Ron English. His firing is certain, but it makes little sense to dispatch him to fire him now.
If they don't have someone in mind to step in soon, I'm not sure why either, but perhaps it's for recruiting. I'm guessing Kiffen was becoming a liability for recruiting purposes.
This should have happened last year. Interesting that they chose to do this mid-season. Let the rumors speculate on who will be the next coach at USC.
John L Smith
Nothing heats up that piss like the California sun!
He really put the little brother in Little Brother.
Or at least we get a better shot at Juju Smith?
One of the big things that was keeping Smith from USC. As long as USC doesn't hire someone terrible, I would think a new coach would make it more likely for Smith to go there.
Yeah, Smith is SC bound now I can't imagine they won't bring in a hot hire at the end of the season like they did with Enfield.
So...Cowboys or Notre Dame next for Kiffin? #climbingthecoachingladder
Neither. He's going to Alabama.
Nobody falls up like Lane Kiffin.
Next stop NFL HC.
He is management material now. NFL GM or University AD.
Why stoop to AD? Shoot for University President.
I hear MSC is retiring.
of football coaches.
I agree this was a long time coming, but the RR analogy is completely off base. When Lane was hired at SC, he had a grand totoal of one mediocre year as a college HC, along with a total disaster stint at Oakland and a history of pissing everyone off. When RR was hired at Michigan he had turned WVU from a mid-level program to a BCS winner, a proven track record as a college coordinator, and had been successful as a head coach earlier at the lower ranks. You rarely hire a HC with a more proven track record than Rich, and you rarely hire one with a less-proven track record than Lane.
I think most people saw the same thing: a stopgap to keep the program afloat through the sanctions. Kiffin could recruit, and I think the thinking or hope was that he could keep the cupboard full for the next coach. No elite coaching candidate was going to take that job and have to weather the brunt of the sanctions.
Once the recruits stopped coming this year, he was ushered out immediately. I think Haden probably hoped he could get one more year out of him so the next coach could come in fresh with the program at full strength. But once Mora put out the dumpster fire at UCLA, I think Haden was forced to act.
Is it possible the Raiders, UT, *and* SC are paying Kiffin some form of compensation to NOT coach?
Why Mark Richt? Still hilarious though
It was pretty obvious yesterday that his hot seat turned out to be an electric chair.
I would be very surprised if he got any serious head coaching offers.
I think a non-BCS school would take a shot at him just for the increased exposure and increased recruiting. I could see him ending up at a school like a Tulsa or Memphis or something
He'll probably sit out 2014, but be back somewhere for the 2015 season. Dude is only 38 or so. Still plenty of time to learn from his mistakes and become a better coach. Could see him winding up somewhere like Illinois or some other low risk, low pressure place.
Probably believes he's the next saban so why not follow his path?
I bet Silas Redd is second guessing himself right now.
Very good point!
You were watching, weren't you? ESPN wins. Controversy creates viewers, in general.
but I stopped watching the World Wide Leader a few years ago. I can't stand anyone on that network with the exception of live sporting events and PTI (It's a guilty pleasure, I know... I enjoy the banter, Kornheiser cracks me up).
Since ABC bought ESPN, it has really gone to hell.
Pat Narduzzi the SC. I'm sending an email to Pat Harden right now.
Lets get this trending. Narduzzi to USC
@Gordon_Berenson 9:28 AM
Breaking News: Pat Narduzzi totally going to USC. Most definitely is. Tell all your friends
which means he is staying at msu...it is our lot in life
I'd like to think we have more pride than to be hoping and praying an MSU assistant coach leaves for another school. Yeah, he's a good DC but so what - Mattison is very good, too.
I would not mind if he found another job outside of East Lansing so MSU can resume being bad at football
I have hated him since he ruined my Raiders
I think Laney had some help there. But ya he's not good.
Al Davis ruined the Raiders, Kiffin actually had a half decent drafting plan his first year that Davis killed. Not a Kiffin fan by any means but blaming him for Al Davis completely losing his shit and no-one being able to get him out is a pretty far bridge.
Al Davis actually ruined the Raiders by being bat shit insane. But I still don't think Kiffin would've been much of a success there anyway.
Everyone thought it was just Al being Crazy Al. Who would have thought he would have been vindicated??!!
Here is the brief official announcement from USC - LINK
"Haden informed Kiffin of his termination upon the team charter's arrival back in Los Angeles early Sunday morning following USC's 62-41 loss at Arizona State."
There will be a press conference this afternoon, it says, conducted by Pat Haden. I think there was a thread where a lot of us though that this would happen perhaps a third or a quarter of the way into the season. I am proud to say that MGoBlog more or less called it.
I believe that makes Kiffin 28-15 for his career at USC, which is pretty subpar as USC head coaching performances go...
If I were USC I would go after Pat Fitzgerald
would consider leaving what he is building at his alma mater for another school. Perhaps the Bears job if they drop Lovie, but that's about it.
Marc Trestman doesnt think Fitzgerald would leave even if the Bears do sack Lovie. He says they are probably going in a different direction.
But what does he know.
Time to hop back into my time machine.
Not a big NFL fan (obviously)
already fired Lovie. Why do people keep thinking Fitzgerald is EVER going to leave NW? Not happening.
Wow a little behind the times there?
He's still coaching the Bears, right?
Maybe the Lions will hire away Hoke to be their GM after they fire Matt Millen.
/source of Hoke-to-NFL rumors
Yes, Who Is Pat Fitzgerald is correct for $200.
For $400, the correct question is "Who is Kirby Smart?"
For $600, the correct question is "Who is Gary Patterson?"
For $800, the correct question is "Who is Chris Peterson?"
For $1,000, the correct question is "Who is an established coach who has a great situation that has zero incentive to leave the excellent situation they are in besides the perceived increased prestige of USC over their current school?"
I thought John Gruden was the $1000 question...
Yes, even better...good call.
I agree on the others, but he should at least triple his salary..
but he is really building something special in Happy Valley. With the easing of the sanctions, their future just got a lot brighter. Hard to say right now, but I'd bet he stays at Penn State for a few more years.
When they hired him in the first place, the move was so bizarre and unseemly, the only good rationalization I could come up with was that they hired him to be the fall guy for Pete Carroll, riding out the sanctions with no real expectation for success, and fire him after the sancrions expire, having already found a solid replacement. Maybe most of this has transpired --time will tell-- but firing him at this time, in this manner, indicates a base, reactive decision-making process in which they had no idea WTF they were doing from start to finish.
I think they hired him because they knew he'd say yes and there wasn't exactly a huge line at the time.
But I have a hard time believing he was the best they could get, or that they actually thought he would be good
Kiffin was a good OC with USC ties. I don't think any up and comers or big name coaches would've wanted to go to USC with the looming sanctions.
If I remember right, Kiffin was way down on USC's list for coaches to hire after Carrol left. Everyone knew it was a terrible job at the time, and turned it down. Kiffin was pretty much all they could get.
I thought the move was reasonable for USC when they hired Kiffin. It was only looked upon as bizarre and unseemly since Kiffin had been at Tennessee for only one season and the internet had already figured out he was a giant douchebag. His one year at Tennessee was reasoably successful. They played Florida and Alabama really tough and he was building, what was seen at the time as, recruiting momentum. Plus, he had the Al Davis sympathy factor going on.
If he had stayed at USC instead of going to the raiders, he would have been the obvious in-house replacement for Pete Carroll. Thus, it was a hire that made sense to USC.
They knew he could recruit and had local connections. Presumably they were happy with him as an OC and he was bringing his dad along. For a program with looming sanctions, it's unlikely they could have gotten someone with similar qualifications. The main knock against him was his douchiness, not such an impediment to success in L.A. I thought it was a risky hire for a completely different reason. It looked like USC was thumbing their nose at the NCAA by bringing back one of Carroll's assistants. They probably were and it probably cost them.
This was exaclty my thinking as well. They were hoping to just ride the wave of the sanctions with Lane Kiffin, if he turned out to be better than expected, great, but if he was mediocre they could start fresh when they have a full roster and recruiting class. Unfortunately, the level of suck was too great.
Lane Kiffin is the only human being in the universe capable of making me feel something in the realm of sympathy for the University of Tennessee. And that is impossible.
Poor, poor Lane Kiffen. He's under contract for the balance of this year and two more for a measly 4MM per year. And when he goes home this is who greets him at the door
I think he'll be ok. Somehow.....
No matter how hot she is, somewhere someone is fed up with her crap
A variation I learned a long time ago: "For every hot girl, there's a bored guy."
Interpretation one: beauty is skin deep.
Interpretation two: men are bastards.
True but wouldn't you rather be fed up with a hot chick crap?
there's a guy who's tired of racking her. /Mike Clark'd
she looks like a typical front-running gold-digging hot chick who will stay with a guy only as long as he's perceived as an alpha male bringing in the good life to which she believes she's entitled. Now that her husband is widely regarded as a douchey loser, other successful alpha males driving Lambos and flying private jets will come sniffing around, and they won't have the stink of failure on them. If I were Lane, I'd be nervous if I didn't have an ironclad pre-nup.
She'll leave him now, that woman is a Winner's Wife!
I hate this news. I want USC back to where they were before Pete Carrol was getting them the best players money could buy. When they were referred to as Southern Cal Community College for their decade of futility in football.
The only surprise here is it happened mid-year.
Then again ... provided they have a serviceable assistant coach to hold down the fort, this gives them between now and signing day to find the right coach for that program. Rather than a frantic search, this can be a thorough search.
No existing coach is likely to move mid-season, so the hire date will likely be after the season ends. The biggest challenge will be keeping secret whoever they choose.
When Florida fired Ron Zook, he still contined to coach the last 5 games of the season. Somehow I doubt USC will do the same with Kiffin.
I didn't realize that had happened at Florida. That's pretty unusual. I'm surprised Florida offered that, and I'm surprised Zook accepted that. What a difficult position to be in.
This is shaping up to be a pretty seismic year for coaching changes. When both USC (now confirmed) and Texas (loudly speculated) are in the hunt, that means we're in for some shakeup. Dominoes will fall.
This is going to make a lot of fan bases very nervous. Boise St., TCU, Clemson, Tex A&M (Sumlin's stock will never be higher than it is now), Ok St. (though I can't imagine Picken's letting Gundy get away), Northwestern, and definitely Louisivlle. Maybe Kirby Smart finally decides to leave Bama.
Edit: Forgot about Sarkisian at Washington.
Guess that's what happens when u give up 62 points which ties the most points they've ever given up
He sucked before giving up 62
Yea I know but that had to be the icing for him not to finish the season
I would love to coach USC so many women
Are you Bobby Petrino?
I don't understand why he was hired to begin with he hasn't proven himself anywhere.
USC should be a dominant national program, and I'm guessing the next guy they bring in will be someone like a Kirby Smart or Steve Sarkisiain - a big-time name or a prominent legacy who understands the culture at a major program and how to keep the media at bay while simply recruiting well. I mean, it shouldn't be hard to get kids to go to USC, so just keep everyone off your back and guys will come given some time.
So said the WSJ on Thursday.
Wait, maybe I have my stories mixed up....
Not like every sports fan didn't see this coming. They've had quite a few decommits over the past few weeks so they're trying to salvage what they can. Whoever steps in is going to have to do some serious work, Kiffin should just be a recruiting coordinator or something.
Are they coming after Pat Narduzzi? And could there be any recruits that we can get out if this?
If USC scored more touchdown points and stopped the other guys from scoring more touchdown points Mr. Kiffin wouldn't have gotten fired. Just my opinion.
Alleged? Cut the bullshit commentary USC is one of the most storied college football programs that's a fact.
before I could. "Alleged"? WTF?
not to mention, wealthiest
For those of you suggesting people like Kirby Smart or Steve Sarkisian, that's not going to happen. This is USC, so this is going to be a big name that will appease the boosters. As much of a joke as it has become, this may be the job to finally pull Gruden out of the booth. With the things USC provides, hell, there aren't many pro jobs better than USC.
Now USC is going to have a solid hire and be very relevant again in the next year or two. Dammit.
concern as well.
John L Smith! Come on down!!!
How can such a selfless young coach who only cares about making his kids better just be tossed aside like this? I guess there is just no room for good guys in the coaching ranks anymore. I mean what's next. They better not fire Schiano.
if Jon Gruden has an inch of ever coaching college football, he'd have to actually listen if offered. There are only a handful of college jobs as BIG as USC, at this point, anybody and everybody could be a candidate. I think Gruden will be the front-runner if he wants it. If the usual big names turn down, ex, Meyer, Saban, Gruden, then they will probably look at up and comers; ex. Sumlin, O'brien, Golden.
anytime soon. Plus, I hear no one likes Gruden because of his personality and thinks that he's an average coach at best.
About time. How this guy keeps getting head coaching gigs is beyond me. Smh.
Clearly Lane got fired on purpose so that he can begin his presidential campaign for 2016.
Lane Kiffen, next head coach of the New York Jets.
Seriously, I don't know to whom the man sold his soul, but assuming it's the devil, then give the latter his due: he keeps finding plum coaching positions for this douchebag, no matter how miserable a head coach he proves himself to be.
It's nepotism. He rode his dad's coattails and brought him along pretty much everywhere he was a HC at except Oakland.
The twitter feed (@insideusc) for USC's rivals site is gold right now. If reports are to be believed, Kiffin was fired in the parking lot at LAX.
But isn't firing a guy in a parking lot a little bush league? Seems like the athletic director at a major institution should have a little more professionalism. A future coach may be worried about working for a guy who fires people in parking lots in the middle of the night
I'll say he gets a job as a coordinator...or a head coaching job at a place like Central Florida.
But how the hell is what's happened at USC his fault? They are in the teeth of the sanctions right now. He was 10-2 two years ago.
Art Briles at Baylor (I think most Texas fans want him to coach and Brown to be let go),
Chris Peterson at Boise State (Maybe, it is time for him to throw his hat into the ring?),
Gary Patterson at TCU (This guys deserves a bigger gig).
In the past has ignored attempts to woo him. USC would be a good spot though.
It was only a matter of time. Kiffin is just a guy who's gotten some jobs he had no right to have in the first place, and I'm sure a good chunk of it was due to him coasting off of his daddy's accomplishments.
But assuming they don't go out and hire another jackass like Kiffin, USC will be relevant, and possibly dominant again within 2 years. They've got the money and resources to go out and hire anyone. Next few months should be pretty interesting
I wonder if they could "lure" Charlie Weis away from Kansas -- he's always said that USC is a dream destination.
on a stick, followed by cheesecake.
Who do you think will draw some interest from USC? I gotta think they will learn from getting the hot name and look at top assistant coaches, Pat Narduzzi maybe?
Narduzzi is a complete boob. Will never get a head coaching position.
Narduzzi is a boob because he's a Michigan state coach. There is a reason that defense is so good...
Dantonio to OSU when Urban decides he needs to spend more time with his family (after his first loss), then Kiffin can take over at MSU. Please God, let this happen.
Their twitter feed is must read stuff right now.
Lane Kiffin got pulled off the team bus at Los Angeles International Airport by Pat Haden when he was fired
I'm told Lane Kiffin told the bus to wait but then
#USC administrators told it to go back to campus without him
If you want specifics, Lane Kiffin was fired right outside Landmark Aviation terminal at LAX
I heard Lane Kiffin left his bag on team bus because he thought his meeting with Pat Haden would be brief and routine matter
Lane Kiffin had no idea he was getting fired upon return to Los Angeles this morning
I'm told Lane Kiffin might already be cleaning out office at McKay Center
I can imagine him waiting outside LAX trying to hail a cab, his luggage back on campus in the team bus...
I keep hearing people say they'll promote "Special" Ed Orgeron to the HC position, which should help with recruiting. He's been a top guy everywhere he's been, so that should help stem the tide of lost recruits at least.
Are recruits really going to sign on for an interim head coach, though? And there's no way that Ogreron is named Kiffin's successor, his one HC gig at Ole Miss was a complete and total trainwreck (that's a bad job, in that the fans expect far more success than Ole Miss has ever achieved historically, but even by Ole Miss's normal standards, he was a terrible coach).
I was at the game last night and was sitting behind the USC bench. My wife and were commenting on how disconnected from the team Kiffen seemed. He had his play sheet and headset, but basically just drifted around the sidelines the whole game. He didnt seem to interact with his players or assistant coaches. Honestly, if he wasn't wearing a different shirt than everyone else you would have thought he was a graduate assistant or something. This is just my speculation but it seemed like he knew what was comming before this game started and the blow out loss just sped things up a bit.
I don't recall the announcers saying anything about it, but I noticed it a few times. The guy was like poison on the sidelines.
Let's see which dumb AD will give this awful coach another try.
I said it when he was hired and I'll say it again. They hired someone to take the fall when the sanctions were done. He was a good recruiter and it puts the next coach in an excellent position to hit the ground running.
Any chance USC would go after Jim Tressel?
Doesn't he still have to go before the NCAA before he can be reinstated?
He's 60, If he gets re-instated, could be a 5-8 year plan. I wonder how the sweatervest would look in cardinal red and gold.
Jack del rio. USC guy....great fit in my opinion. There would actually be defense played in the PAC 12.....weird thought.
Looks like the dumpster fire has finally been extinguished. Poor Lane.
1. Of course, the first one is who will take the job
2. Why now, is it really a fear of losing recruits? Possibly to a resurgent UCLA?
3. Will he get another job - Bobby Petrino continues to get gigs so it isn't impossible given Kifflin's youth. If he gets another major coaching job soon however it is prima facie evidence of the power of the networking process and/or a Faustian bargain.
There are going to be people lining up for the job. Candidates already being talked about: James Franklin, Kevin Sumlin, Steve Sarkisian, Chris Petersen, Jeff Fisher, Jack Del Rio, Mike Riley, and Pat Fitzgerald. Like Ohio State, now is the perfect time to take this job. They will be coming off sanctions in a year, and expectations are lowered after the Kiffin era.
I think recruiting is the big reason why this is happening now. Kiffin managed to save most of his 2013 class, but top 2014 West Coast recruits are starting to look at other schools like UCLA.
James Franklin apparently is one of the favourites of for the job.
Not inc. Carroll, the last 5 USC coaches have gone 26-20-1, 44-25-3, 37-21-2, 19-18, and 28-14. Basically 7-5 avg.
— Bill Connelly (@SBN_BillC) September 29, 2013
Him right the smelly bugger.
Charlie Strong would be my pick.
He has pretty much spent his entire life in the Southeast. I think if Strong were to eventually leave Louisville, it would be for an SEC job. He has no ties to the West Coast, and I think USC will probably look for one that does.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Strong ending up at Florida if Muschamp doesn't turn it around.
If Muschamp doesn't turn it around?
11-2 last year with a BCS appearance.
3-1 this year with a loss to a fairly decent Miami team.
coach at Florida before USC.
Personally, I enjoyed the USC schadenfreude. Now I'm down to Texas and Nebraska.
...SC is a top 5 job...and will get a great coach...they just may have to wait a few months.
I thought Hoke would have more of a head start versus Ohio State after the Tressel scandal, but Ohio State plucked up Urban Meyer 6 months later. It remains to be seen if USC can pull a coach of that caliber, but I would be surprised if they don't get a big name hire.
Damn, that sucks. He seemed like a really good dude, I was rooting for him to succeed...
I hear ya. The guy just can't seem to catch a break. It's a damn shame.
Guess this means they have a head start on Texas in their official coaching search. It was just a couple years ago those schools had the top teams in the country, now their teams are a shambles.
Go over and read https://twitter.com/InsideUSC.
Nothing must suck more than getting pulled off the team bus and fired in the LAX parking lot....
I, like most, thoroughly dislike Kiffin but getting pulled off the team bus to get fired seems completely unprofessional on Pat Hayden's part. Call him into your office early Sunday morning and let him go, don't do it at the freaking airport on the way back to campus.
it seems more like an emotional decision in this case. It would have been much more professional to do it in private.
I agree too. Firing someone publicly and immediately is tacky. It sounds like people were all over the AD to fire Kiffin and the pressure to do something immediately took precedent over doing it right.
USC came out the second and shoved a 3 play 60 yard drive down ASU's face when they needed it to retake the lead 21-20 after a first half where turnovers were key in ASU's lead. ASU then hit a 75 yard pass right over the middle for a TD and two plays later the USC QB threw a pick 6 and it was over.
USC had little fight, or rather Kiffin had little fight, no emotion, no energy. Every image of him the rest of the game was of Lane looking down at his gigantic play chart like he was calling a pop warner game. Literally that is all he did, he looked like he didn't even give a crap
Does that play any role in the timing?
You know when people on here get all emotional during Live Blog and say "Fire Borges or Funk or this week's goat - don't let him come out of the locker room after halftime or ban him from campus". That's a completely irrational overraction in the heat of the moment. It would never ever happen in real life, right?
Well, the ESPN ticker just stated Haden made the decision to fire Kiffin during the 3rd quarter of last night's game vs ASU. Then they pull him off the team bus before it left LAX on the way home last night.
They didn't even let him make it back to campus. Let that sink in lol....
The forum trolls of the football world just yelled out in unison "that's how you fire a coach!"
...but EVERY SC grad I know is over the moon about the firing. Not one of them liked him. Ever. Jack Del Rio is very high on their wish list.
I like it that SC sucked........oh well all good things must end
Exactly, I was hoping he wouldn't get fired so they would continue to suck.
I was hoping Kiffin would get a contract extension. Does anyone know the buyout for Charlie Weis? That "decided schematic advantage" may be what SC needs.
It had to be done. The decline was too much for an alleged historical program like USC.
Why "alleged"? I don't care for USC but they're certainly one of the great historic programs. They've won 38 conference titles and 11 national titles and have won over 70% of their games. I don't blame their fans at all for being unhappy with Kiffin. Sanctions or not, the team just isn't playing well.
Im feeling a slow clap coming on
but I don't see anyone else winning with 55 athletes.
but he seemed to do a damn good job his first season, just holding the team together and in what seems a bit ironic now, lot his top rb to USC. Think this was one of the many things overlooked in AA when RR was hired with 65 scholarship players and 22 on the defensive side, or about half the norm.
O'Brien has nowhere near the schedule Kiffin had to face every year.
Pat Haden found out Kiffin had signed a contract with Texas.