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OT: USA-Panama Gold Cup Open Thread

CONCACAF Gold Cup Group C

United States (1-0-0) vs. Panama (1-0-0)

Raymond James Stadium, Tampa

Kickoff: 8 pm ET

TV: Fox Soccer Channel, Telefutura, univisionfutbol.com, CONCACAF TV

USA’s all-time record in Gold Cup group play: 24-0-2.

USA Starters: Howard; Cherundolo, Goodson, Ream, Bocanegra; Dempsey, Bradley, Jones, Donovan; Altidore, Agudelo.

USA Subs: Hahnemann, Onyewu, Edu, Wondolowski, Lichaj, Kljestan, Bedoya.

Same starters, same subs as the Canada match.

U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:31 PM | USA! USA! (Score:1)
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They're playing down road from me, had no idea. Way to promote, Raymond James. Too hot and humid anyways, although the late start will help.

¡Viva USA!

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:31 PM | Predictions? (Score:2)
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I'll go with another 2-0 match.

"To hell with Notre Dame."

"You're my boy Lloyd!"

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:32 PM | Would love to see more than (Score:1)
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Would love to see more than 60% posession this game. 

 

Early prediction: 3-1 USA

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:42 PM | 2-1 (Score:1)
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2-1



Altidore and Donovan score early. Howard plays well but the D let's one in that Howard has no chance to stop.

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:51 PM | Goodson Ream (Score:1)
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Do you guys like them??  I know they are young but I think by the next world cup they will be a good back two.  Never really liked Onyewu

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:58 PM | So far, so good, with Ream and Goodson (Score:0)
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I hope they continue to develop well -- very promising so far.  Onyewu, God bless him, was just not that good, and he won't ever get back to his form, I hate to say.  He got schooled in the 2006 WC against the Czech Republic, and then he's been injured a lot.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:04 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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They have been playing well together. I wouldn't mind bocanegra moving inside to give lichaj a shot at lb.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:09 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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They're good passers out of the back and calm on the ball. I'd like to see some more depth develop like Gonzalez and Agbossoumonde(sp?), but they have a chance to be a decent first choice pairing.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:38 PM | This was of course until (Score:2 Normal)
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This was of course until Goodson scored the own goal.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:54 PM | Didn't know about CONCACAF TV (Score:2)
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Didn't know about CONCACAF TV until I saw your link. My life is better now, thanks :-D

 

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts - Richard Feynman

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:54 PM | So apparently the secret (Score:1)
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So apparently the secret ingredient in Mexican salsa is clenbuterol.

Five Mexico players suspended for doping.

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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June 11th, 2011 at 7:55 PM | Could be the meat! Wheres the (Score:2)
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Could be the meat! Wheres the BEEF? I seriously doubt tthat the players were abusing clenbuterol, there are a lot of more effective drugs on and off the ban list if you are interested in becoming an asterisk/rich football player.

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts - Richard Feynman

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:02 PM | USA can clinch... (Score:3 Insightful)
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...first place in Group C with a win vs. Panama based on Canada's 1-0 win over Guadaloupe.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:13 PM | Agudelo gets one (Score:1)
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Juan will score along with Donovan on a PK and Goodson on a header off corner.  3-0 or 3-1 US.  Expect to see a great game from our midfield tonight.

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:35 PM | GOODSON HEADER OFF SET PIECE (Score:1)
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He may let you down occasionally on defense, but that goal is one of the main reasons you play him.  Called it.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:29 PM | i have a hard time getting (Score:1)
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i have a hard time getting into soccer unless its world cup or olympics, then I watch every game I can.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:33 PM | USA-MEX (Score:1)
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If the US and Mexico meet in the final (Gold Cup: the Caribbean, Cenral, and North American Championship) you will get just as excited, guranteed.

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:30 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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WTF. Got a free kick on a really bad call then scored - damn it

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:33 PM | That was yakety Sax defending (Score:1)
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That was yakety Sax defending if I've ever seen it.  F""""""""""ck!

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:37 PM | Harsh yellows for the US.  We (Score:1)
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Harsh yellows for the US.  We didn't do anything as bad as hip-checking someone.

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The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:01 PM | The reffing is incredibly bad (Score:1)
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The reffing is incredibly bad in this one, Panama should be getting yellow carded into the stone age with the way they're playing.  Still can't figure out why Altidore got yellow-carded.

We're getting opportunities against Panama, but just aren't converting, I'm getting nervous that the U.S. is going to get frustrated and start pressing too much.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:49 PM | Panama 2- U.S. 0 Ream (Score:1)
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Panama 2- U.S. 0

Ream caused one of the most bone-headed penalties I have ever seen.  U.S. is playing about as bad as they ever have and Panama is playing rough and now packing ten men behind the ball and Panama's goal keeper is hot, this one's over.

Oh, goody the goalie's making more of his injury than he needs to.  Why do so many soccer players do this? and why don't players do something along the lines of you like acting?  I'll give you something to act about!

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:49 PM | Time remaining (Score:2)
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June 11th, 2011 at 8:50 PM | 5  minutes in the 1st half.  (Score:1)
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5  minutes in the 1st half.  U.S. looks like complete shit.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:52 PM | So they can be physical on (Score:1)
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So they can be physical on Jozy, but he can't push back?  Sheesh.

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The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:58 PM | Bloody (Score:1)
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awful. No brights spots anywhere on the field. That is one avid crowd, and they are pissed. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 8:59 PM | I dont hate many people.  But (Score:0 Flamebait)
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I dont hate many people.  But I really, really,  REEEAAALLLY hate Bob Bradley. 

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:14 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I hate this vampire looking ref more than BB.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:29 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I told my buddy before I saw this that Dracula is giving out cards too easily

fomerly known as "hailtothe"

hailing from Evansville, IN...

To hell with Notre Dame.
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June 11th, 2011 at 9:34 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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Only one way though

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:23 PM | Ream and Goodson are just not (Score:2)
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Ream and Goodson are just not good enough defenders for international football.  I can't think of a set of strikers that would not threaten them.

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:27 PM | ...except for Buddle + (Score:3 Normal)
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...except for Buddle + Findley.

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:29 PM | hope they prove me wrong here, but (Score:1)
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I just don't see where the improvement is coming from for the US as we move toward the next World Cup. They look absolutely f'ing miserable tonight.

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:32 PM | Stuey Holden, Timmy Chandler, (Score:1)
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Stuey Holden, Timmy Chandler, Mix Diskeruud.  Thats your improvement.  And a new coach after we bomb out of the gold cup.

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:01 PM | well, they DID prove me wrong-- (Score:1)
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exciting close to the game. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:32 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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Kick the ball and get tripped by the goalie and that's a yellow? WTF is going on with this red?

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:35 PM | He's apparently decided he's (Score:1)
Rabbit21
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He's apparently decided he's not letting the U.S. have a chance.  Which is fine, they don't deserve one playing like this.  I'm checking out, what an awful game.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:36 PM | Didn't really see contact on (Score:1)
I Bleed Maize N Blue
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Didn't really see contact on the replay.

And we've scored, so don't give up yet.

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:35 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:3 Normal)
JeffB
Joined: 09/22/2009
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Goooooooooaaaaaaaaaal. Now 2-1, 22 minutes left

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:40 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
JeffB
Joined: 09/22/2009
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72nd minute - worst corner ever

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:48 PM | ARGH! (Score:1)
I Bleed Maize N Blue
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5-yd FG.

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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June 11th, 2011 at 9:58 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
JeffB
Joined: 09/22/2009
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4 minutes stoppage time seems like a lot. Still down 1

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:03 PM | Well that was a waste of (Score:1)
Rabbit21
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Well that was a waste of time.  Hope they pull their heads out and that Panama can get a result against Canada.  If not, first round exit from our own GD tournamnet and won't that be embarassing.  Great play in the last ten minutes.  Would have been nice to do it all game.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:04 PM | That was embarrassing.  No (Score:1 Normal)
swan flu
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That was embarrassing.  No one today deserved to wear the colors.  The shoulder check at the end by Bocanegra was absolutely classless.

 

Im so sick of our flat, boring play and Im sick of Bob Bradley.

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:08 PM | Bocanegra was frustrated and (Score:2 Normal)
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Bocanegra was frustrated and he damn well should have been.  Between this and the Spain game I haven't felt much pride in the team lately(going to the game in Detroit was a brief moment of happiness).  I like Bradley, but in a tournament this important to lay an egg like that is almost unforgiveable.  If the U.S. has another game even remotely like this in the tournament, some questions about his job security neede to be asked. 

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:07 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Wondolowski had a chance of a lifetime.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:10 PM | No kidding (Score:1)
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Joined: 03/11/2010
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I still don't understand how it was even possible to miss that. On the bright side Bedoya looked pretty decent. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:10 PM | He should get another one, (Score:1)
Rabbit21
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He should get another one, Striker depth isn't good and a mistake like that hopefully won't destroy his international career, I'm frustrated but I'm not pinning the game on him.  The team deserved to lose, missing that sitter was just karma talking.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:17 PM | Jones? (Score:1)
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Joined: 03/11/2010
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I don't know all that much about soccer but to me Jones is not very impressive, can someone more knowledgeable give me there take on him because I can't understand why Edu doesn't start over him. To me it looks like his passes don't connect and he commits to many fouls because he is out of position but again I am rather new to watching soccer so maybe I am way off? 

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June 12th, 2011 at 12:20 AM | If you are new to watching soccer... (Score:1)
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... you have a very good eye. I agree 100% with you; Edu should walk into this midfield. Shocking team selection.

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