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March 4th, 2014 at 2:50 AM
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OT - Urban Meyer surgery

Urban Meyer had surgery to reduce headaches.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10547422/urban-meyer-ohio-state-surgical-procedure-lessen-headaches

I can't decide whether I should coachspeak something about "hope it's minor", make a joke about Dantonio being in his head, or bring up Marcus Hall..

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March 4th, 2014 at 2:58 AM
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I wish him well

A good Ohio and a good Michigan

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:20 AM
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Good?

How about a good Ohio and a great Michigan?

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:06 AM
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It

Hope he gets relief.

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:06 AM
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I'd coach-speak it.  I'd like

I'd coach-speak it.  I'd like to see Meyer have a great, long life and a terrible, miserable coaching career from this point forward.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:43 AM
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I concur.

I concur.

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:25 AM
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Maybe he really should

Maybe he really should retire. He has had lots of health issue, that could be contibuted to his stressful job. He is fairly young still, should go back to annoucing.

His presser after the losses this year show how hard he takes lossing.

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:38 AM
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Except this is a fairly

Except this is a fairly inocuous procedure completely related to a minor quality-of-life issue. It's something he's known about since the late 90s, and got it taken care of because he was getting headaches. And the supposed heart condition that caused his issues at Florida was actually a total misdiagnosis of an acid reflux-esque esophageal problem that was almost immediately alleviated with a simple prescription. 

The guy's health is a relative non-issue in relation to his job. 

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March 4th, 2014 at 7:27 AM
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Not really

First off, no medical procedure is innocuous. Secondly, the odds that the arachnoid cyst caused the headaches are low. He most likely has vasospastic disorder which manifests as esophageal spasms or, in this case, migraines. Finding the trigger, which can be stress, and reducing it is the key to treatment.

I wish him well.

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March 4th, 2014 at 2:55 PM
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You just got knowledge'd! By

You just got knowledge'd! By ppToilet.

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March 4th, 2014 at 7:46 AM
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This "fairly innocuous

This "fairly innocuous procedure" involved drilling a hole into his skull

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:58 AM
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R.P. McMurphy nods his head.

R.P. McMurphy nods his head.

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:52 AM
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This doesn't sound like fun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachnoid_cyst

 

Based on this, the cyst is most likely in his brain or on his spine, making this surgery either spinal surgery or brain surgery.  Neither sounds like something you undertake unless you have to.

Hopefully he makes a full recovery and the fluid does not continue to build up, nor does the cyst grow.

 

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:31 AM
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Arachnoid cyst...

Funny, because "arachnoid" might be the perfect description for Urban Meyer.
Get well soon, Urban.

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March 4th, 2014 at 3:56 AM
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Would someone mind explaining the surgery in more detail?

I'm interested in learning more about it.

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March 4th, 2014 at 8:59 AM
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The MGoDoctors...

The MGoDoctors could probably do this better, but from what I was reading this morning (I was curious too), a fair number of these cysts are asymptomatic and many people never get past simply having them monitored.

One site said there are two common treatments if it does require this level of care - one is done via endoscope through a small incision near the cyst. They endoscope is used to open the cyst, allowing CSF to flow normally. The other is the insertion of a small catheter in the cyst which allows the fluid to drain elsewhere. 

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March 4th, 2014 at 12:14 PM
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^^^ Stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night ^^^

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March 4th, 2014 at 4:18 PM
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pretty accurate.  and in

pretty accurate.  and in terms of neuro type procedures its minor.  but as someone mentioned all cases carry at least some risk even if its younger patients on more standard anesthetic or infectious end of spectrum.  hope hes fine, id never wish ill health on anyone, even if its mostly due to self destructive lifestyle.  but the commentor who referred to meyer as a good guy - come on man - sure hes not a serial killer and he def puts players in pros where they can excel, but compared to other coaches, hes not a good guy, hes close to as sleazy as they come 

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:05 AM
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First, they place a burr hole

First, they place a burr hole (drill a hole into his skull).

Through that hole, they place a tool which they use to fenestrate the cyst (make one or more slits into the wall of the cyst). By doing this, the cyst drains into the surrounding CSF

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:44 AM
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Insert...

something like needing something "as much as another hole in the head" joke here.

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March 4th, 2014 at 12:23 PM
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So they popped a

skull zit?!

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March 4th, 2014 at 7:16 PM
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Awesome, good to know. Thanks to you

and the guys above who responded. 

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March 4th, 2014 at 6:18 AM
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Get well

Urb.

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March 4th, 2014 at 6:53 AM
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My opinion is the same as yesterday

Meyer should retire.  What good is all that money if he can't spent any of it.  He can continue to kill himself with 100 hour weeks or he can quit, go back to TV and work less than 40. 

Besides, the only surgery that will cure his headaches is a surgery that makes him unable to be chronically pissed off.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:54 AM
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Isn't this an argument for

Isn't this an argument for basically every big-time coach to retire?  We could say the same thing about Saban, or Les Miles, or Stoops, or pretty much any of them who have made a boatload of money.  The reality is, to get to their level means they like the job more than they like spending money anyway.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:20 AM
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They don't just coach for the money

Some guys genuinely enjoy their life-crushing jobs.

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March 4th, 2014 at 7:40 AM
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get well soon.

i want him to be completely healthy when we slap his team around.  i want him to live a long, healthy life, full of regret that he had us solved and then we started dominating him.  i want him to be healthy when we leave him forlornly sitting on a golf cart, eating pizza, wondering how he's ever going to get up on us.

seriously, hope he gets better.

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March 4th, 2014 at 8:10 AM
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Wish him well. Leave the tasteless stuff to

Wish him well. Leave the tasteless stuff to Sparty.

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March 4th, 2014 at 8:32 AM
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I really do hope he gets

I really do hope he gets well. Besides, Nothing should stand in the way of us seeing the look on Urban's face when Jabrill Peppers torches Ohio for the next 3 years.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:19 AM
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so your calling it now?

first round pick then?

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:52 AM
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Well if your gonna put me on

Well if your gonna put me on the spot here..……yep!! First round pick. Hopefully not to the Lions though.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:10 AM
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Migraines...

Danwillhor, I'm so sorry to hear about your migraines, and couldn't pass by the comment without sharing this: An ex of mine used to get them quite a lot. He took one of the prescription meds, which helped, but then he started getting therapeutic massage weekly and they gradually went away. He went to someone who called his practice "massage for pain relief" and knew a lot of physiology, no particular style, but relatively deep/heavy and just let him do his thing. I think they started to reduce in a few weeks and were essentially gone after 6 months (and dropping to biweekly for maintenance).

I hope yours improve!

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:14 AM
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Earlier thread

Looks like that thread from yesterday on him in the hospital did not need to be deleted.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:28 AM
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When a thread is built upon a

When a thread is built upon a unsubstantiated rumor found on RCMB, and the MGoThread's OP has nothing new or insightful to add, it must be removed.  So while it turned out Urban was indeed in the hospital (for something less dramatic than yesterday's thread implied), this is the only post on the topic that was ever needed or wanted.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:41 AM
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Yesterday's

Thread did not imply anything dramatic or horrible for urban Meyer. It did t add anything new, but brought the topic to the attention of normal MGo users who don't frequent rcmb, and so was useful.

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March 4th, 2014 at 4:04 PM
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Right

The OP implied nothing dramatic and cited that it was a poor source. Though some of the replies certainly took the leap to the dramatic. Personally, I thought it was valuable at the time, because I don't look at such poor sources and knowing rumors like this can be of value as they do turn out to be true. But I am sure the moderators have a better sense of how often they are true. The flip side to that is that there is an enormous amount of untrue speculation posted here that is never deleted or properly sourced.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:19 AM
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Yes and no

Rumor threads like those pan out like 1/3 of the time, and when they do, people are always like, "SEE, Y U NO LEAVE OTHER THREAD UP." But people rarely say anything the other 2/3 of the time. The whole point is that it may or may not be accurate, but without a source (and no, teh RCMB doesn't count as a source), it goes away.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:32 AM
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What I heard from a guy with no clue how a cooler works.

Is that the doctors also unsuccessfully tried to remove some slime that seems to ooze from him they also reported tons of sand in his nether region....weird.  

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:55 AM
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Surgery

Not true. Heard from reliable source that Urban was first human recepient of morally and ethically enhanced stem cells.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:58 AM
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Rejected

Unfortunately, every other cell in his body rejected the moral ones, and so he needs another operation from a corrupt source. Rumor is that Jim Tressel rushed to the scene.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:49 AM
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A small part of me

hopes that whatever was removed included the part that helps him remember offense.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:36 AM
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Wishing Coach all the best

and a speedy recovery.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:47 AM
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In this case

In this case, Urban Meyer would most likely be telling recruits that he heard Urban Meyer was probably going to die.

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March 4th, 2014 at 9:56 AM
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Payback is a bitch, OSU!

The nagative recruiting regarding Urban and his ability to coach is going to be epic, led by the SEC (specifically Florida). Tressel enjoyed this with the Lloyd rumors and now payback is a bitch, OSU.

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:15 AM
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I don't know how well

I don't know how well recruits are gonna respond to nagging.

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:36 AM
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Recruiting Pitch (Not one UM will make though)

Don't go to OSU, Urban Meyer is just going to leave you high and dry due to health reasons, just like he did to Florida.  How has Florida done lately?  They drilled into his skull in the offseason.

I also beleive that a chiropractor and/or massage could totally help relieve stress or tightness, pinched nerves etc which can cause headaches.  I'd hope he tried some of this and not with undergrads(wait, not Petrino okay may be safe....).

Not sure if the drilling into skull part is even correct 100%(Depends on cyst location), but most negative and/or dirty recruiting isn't anyway.

I mean Dantonio called Hoke the pillsbury doughboy but that can't be correct as he's still alive.

http://funnybizblog.com/funny-stuff/pillsbury-doughboy-obituary

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:01 AM
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From someone that suffers

From someone that suffers from migraines, I hope it works, Coach. Get well soon.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:07 AM
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Any type of surgery with the

Any type of surgery with the brain is scary as hell - I dont care how "minor" it seems to the clinicians.  I hope he recovers fully and I hope the surgery was successfull in all ways.

As a Michigan grad who had his cancer successfully treated at the Ohio State James Cancer research center can tell you with absolute first-hand experience that some things....no MANY things...are far more important than football.  This is definitely one of them.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:14 AM
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I hope the pain is relieved

I hope the pain is relieved. I do not have chronic headaches, but I know too many people who do suffer that way, and I know it isn't fun. I do hope that the surgery is successful, meaning not only that there are no complications, but that this brings relief from regular headaches.

While I hope Michigan's football fortunes increase significantly, I don't want to link that to Meyer's headaches and to bringing him pain. For me, it is about Michigan doing well and playing well and improving. While this means that I want Michigan to win all their games, the affect Michigan's winning has on other teams or coaches is immaterial to me.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:16 AM
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Wishing him

and his family the best. 

This story was talked about on this blog yesterday, with less detail, and it was thought to be inaccurate.  But it does show that we should continue to be careful of the stories we float on this blog. 

My prayers to him and hope he is back at work quickly.  As someone else said, a strong Michigan and a strong Ohio State.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:17 AM
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hope he recovers. As I said yesterday, I think

hope he recovers. As I said yesterday, I think he's a jerk, but I want him to be a healthy jerk.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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You can't say...

...he doesn't suffer for his success.  I understand why you'd want him as your coach, but I wouldn't want to be him.  I hope he gets some relief from this.

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March 4th, 2014 at 10:54 AM
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Today I realized I'm not a

Today I realized I'm not a horrible person when I found myself saying out loud "please be ok, please be ok" as I clicked on this thread link. I'm happy to hear he's doing well.

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March 4th, 2014 at 11:01 AM
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Just curious

What situations occurred that left this realization in doubt?

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March 4th, 2014 at 2:40 PM
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I mean, just the constant

I mean, just the constant hating Ohio thing.  I thought perhaps it was unconditional, but I guess it has its limits.  

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March 4th, 2014 at 12:56 PM
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I still hope we beat OSU.

I still hope we beat OSU.

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March 4th, 2014 at 12:57 PM
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Yikes this is no joke

I really disdain Urban, but I would never wish for such health problems on my worst enemy. Dudes getting a hole drilled in his skull...minor surgery or not, that sounds like no fun at all. Hope for a speedy recovery.

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March 4th, 2014 at 1:07 PM
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I Hope

He gets better soon, don't want any excuses when we beat them this year in that hole they call a stadium. Thoughts and prayers.

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March 4th, 2014 at 1:07 PM
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Ohio Shirt

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/house-ad/2014/03/34002/st-patricks-day-nig...

 

 

Buy him an Ohio T-Shirt!

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March 4th, 2014 at 1:59 PM
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Just to clarify

He is curing his headaches by drilling a hole in his head? Wouldn't that give you a headache?

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March 4th, 2014 at 2:08 PM
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Did the surgury give him a defense? That would be the thing . .

to stop his headaches.

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