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OT: University of Tennessee hit with NCAA recruiting violations

It looks like the NCAA is kicking the University of Tennessee while they're already down. With a disgruntled fanbase and the huge rumors of Jon Gruden taking over the coaching job for Derek Dooley after seasons end that almost seem to be going no where, this is going to send their fans into a frenzy.

 

A former University of Tennessee assistant football coach knowingly worked with a booster to provide impermissible travel and lodging to a prospective student-athlete, according to findings by the Division I Committee on Infractions. The former coach was also cited for unethical conduct for his role in the violations.

 

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2012/november/tennessee+football+program+cited+for+recruiting+violations

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | What would Gruden do to our chances with Green? (Score:1)
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He has a big name and I'm sure these kids have seen him on Sportscenter

Yeah, well... I'm gonna go build my own theme park, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the park! 

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Probably nothing (Score:4 Normal)
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Seeing as the chance he ends up at Tennessee is negligible.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

http://www.gundaymonday.com

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:35 PM | Negligible?  More like (Score:5 Normal)
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Negligible?  More like negatitve.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | If you are going to commit (Score:5 Normal)
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If you are going to commit recruiting violations, you might as well win some conference games for it.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | Well if they don't win any (Score:5 Normal)
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Well if they don't win any conference games the NCAA can't come back 3-5 years from now and take away any victories... 

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November 16th, 2012 at 6:25 PM | Good insight.  Tennessee (Score:1)
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Good insight.  Tennessee losing every conference game is a strategic move.  Dooley's mom was right all along, Derek sure is a smart fella.

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November 17th, 2012 at 1:24 AM | And she's a fart smella! (Score:-1 Overrated)
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And she's a fart smella!

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:45 PM | lol (Score:1 Redundant)
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that was my first thought

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November 16th, 2012 at 8:16 PM | Hard to do when the other (Score:2)
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Hard to do when the other schools cheat more. :-p

Michigan is and will always be every BIG schools' 
measuring stick.

 

 

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November 16th, 2012 at 8:22 PM | Agreed.  Cheating just a (Score:2)
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Agreed.  Cheating just a little doesn't get the job done in the SEC.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | So we can get Danny O'brien back? (Score:1)
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We need more defense against spread attack.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Derek Dooley should not let (Score:1 Normal)
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Derek Dooley should not let the door hit him in the hip or the ass on the way out

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | And hopefully this follows (Score:3 Normal)
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And hopefully this follows with a:

Hello Derrick Green

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:35 PM | Green isn't coming either (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Green isn't coming either way.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | You are the Debbiest of (Score:5 Normal)
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You are the Debbiest of Downers.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Where else would he be going (Score:5 Normal)
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Where else would he be going at this point?  I feel as though it is pretty well established that every other program he was/has/is looking at is on the down swing while Michigan is looking up.  Tennessee is a tire fire, Auburn is slowly smoldering, and Miami just needs someone to toss the match.

Rutgers and Maryland: NOT WELCOME

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | I do think Oregon has a shot, (Score:1)
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I do think Oregon has a shot, but, we shall see.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Is there a HC job where (Score:5 Normal)
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Is there a HC job where Gruden has not been linked to? 

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | very few. if you read some of (Score:5 Normal)
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very few. if you read some of the Tennessee boards, they all are certain he's coming and its just a matter of time. it's rather amusing reading come of their crap.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:50 PM | reminds me of (Score:5 Normal)
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those of us who wore out scores of F5 buttons during Domino's Jetwatch 2011...quite a few of us (myself included) thought Harbaugh was a done deal

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:24 PM | I think Harbaugh at least seriously considered it (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't think Gruden is going to be seriously considering any coaching jobs.

But yeah, nothing is a done deal until [Big Time Coach] signs on the dotted line.

Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:36 PM | I believe he was never in the running for (Score:5 Normal)
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"Touchdown... No flags!!"

Founder and current Commisioner of the ITGPD - Internet Tough Guy Police Department, est. 2012

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:15 PM | Well... I don't think his (Score:5 Normal)
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Well... I don't think his name was brought up for the Lakers' opening, but I could be wrong.  Pretty sure he was at least considered for the US Men's National Soccer Team.

Rutgers and Maryland: NOT WELCOME

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | Job Posting found at UT's website (Score:0 Normal)
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Director of Compliance, Athletics - 12000001FU 

 

 

Description

 This position is responsible for the development, implementation, monitoring and reporting of all policies and procedure relative to a comprehensive NCAA Division I compliance program.  This includes but is not limited to: recruiting, eligibility, financial aid, playing and practice seasons, student-athlete employment, monitoring of permissible contacts and phone calls, amateurism, extra benefits, rules education and enforcement, maintaining all required reporting documents. 

 

 

Qualifications

 

Bachelor’s degree required, Master’s preferred.Three to four years of NCAA compliance experience within previous six years required (may include internship experience). Knowledge of NCAA rules and regulations with experience providing legislative interpretations required.
Significant experience at one or more Division I athletic compliance office preferred. Knowledge of the ACS monitoring system, CAi and LSDBI. Financial aid experience preferred. Ability to effectively communicate the application of NCAA regulation across a wide range of situation. Must be able to work well with a diverse population of student-athletes and coaches in a team atmosphere.  Position requires occasional travel; nights and weekend required.

 

 

Job

  Executive/Administrative 

Primary Location

  US-Tennessee-Chattanooga 

Organization

  Athletics Admin & General 

Schedule

  Full-time 

 

Job Posting

  Oct 19, 2012, 2:50:08 PM

 

 

Coach Hoke once told me that a moral victory is still a (expletive deleted) loss.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:25 PM | Chattanooga != Knoxville (Score:5 Normal)
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Chattanooga != Knoxville

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:27 PM | Shocking (Score:2 Normal)
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So Tyler Bray wasn't lieing!

Also, it must make them mad to pay for a crappy product. Jk, sorta

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:31 PM | What the fuck could this mean (Score:5 Normal)
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What the fuck could this mean for Oregon?  Similar violations involving the same shady agent guy, but replace assistant coach with Head Coach, i.e. Chip Kelly.  And "money for hotels" with $25,000.  It's gonna look terrible for the NCAA to hammer Oregon right after they make or potentially win the MNC.

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | The other day, Colin Cowherd (Score:4 Normal)
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The other day, Colin Cowherd was talking about Chip Kelly going to the NFL.  Maybe he's taking the Pete Carroll path.

 

 

"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | I sincerely doubt... (Score:1)
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that Kelly is the head coach at Oregon by this time next year, but I'm not sure they'll hammer Oregon in general. Sure, they might get a bowl ban or whatever, but I don't think Oregon will get more than OSU got (which wasn't much).

Go Blue!

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | (No subject) (Score:4 Normal)
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http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2011/06/ipt/1309501203.jpg

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:47 PM | "Ducks!" even rhymes with "Bucks !!!" (Score:1)
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Except this doesn't appear to wish anyone a Happy Easter !!! There needs to be an LOL moderating option, I hadn't seen this before.

Still, I don't know how much Oregon will get; they'll fire Kelly and he'll get hit with a show-cause and probably save Oregon from even a USC-esque punishment.

Go Blue!

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November 16th, 2012 at 5:26 PM | Well there is candy at (Score:3 Informative)
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Well there is candy at Easter.  And some of the candy looks like ducks, so "Go Ducks" could be code for "Happy Easter"

Blue Marshmallow Peeps Candy 5-Packs: 24-Piece Box

 

"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | what college job has jon (Score:2 Normal)
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what college job has jon gruden not been linked to? and honestly, as a bucs fan, i wasn't overly impressed with gruden. he won a super bowl, yeah, but that was tony dungy's team. the years after that, they were just too inconsistent, and never made it past the wild card round of the playoffs. i also don't see gruden resonating very well with 18-22 year old kids.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | the ncaa is going to bring (Score:3 Normal)
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the ncaa is going to bring the hammer down. word is they will be told that's a no no and to please stop doing that.

Vice.com

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:44 PM | I just can't see Gruden (Score:2)
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I just can't see Gruden ending up at UT, when he turned down his "dream job" at Notre Dame.  UT is a good gig, but he could have his pick of just about any NFL opening this off season.  He also has a pretty good thing going with MNF.  

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:49 PM | not to mention there will be (Score:1)
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not to mention there will be a few nfl jobs open this year too

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:05 PM | I know twitter isnt a reliable source (Score:0 Overrated)
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but there are some rumblings on twitter connecting Tressel with TN, and the rumblings are getting a bit louder.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:21 PM | They better start tweeting (Score:5 Normal)
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about that show-cause penalty too.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | No Gruden (Score:1)
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He's not going to UT. Too much hassle and not enough comp compared to NFL jobs.

My source in their AD (not a decision-maker) says top scenario is college coach plus staff with NFL experience, which narrows the field a fraction.

My guess is Kirby Smart. He keeps Sunseri at DC, adds pro OC, knows SEC recruiting territory, and Saban OKs with UT in East Div of SEC.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:52 PM | Has your source in the AD (Score:2)
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Has your source in the AD said that Dooley is as good as gone, or does he still have a chance?

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:50 PM | Gone (Score:3 Normal)
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Again, not a decision-maker but he's heard the stance from some key boosters. Athletic Director didn't hire him and local media grinding the situation.

Catch this: Dooley is 15-20, losing ground in-state Vandy, some ugly losses, offense dependent on 1 QB, defense not improving, average recruiting, $2m salary, new athletic director a year ago ... stop me when you've heard this story before.

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:25 PM | Sounds like Dooley is gone.  (Score:2)
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Sounds like Dooley is gone.  Did this happen on his watch or previous regime.  Article mentioned 2009 and I don't remember the timing of the Kiffin departure. 

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November 16th, 2012 at 5:24 PM | Previous AD mess (Score:2 Informative)
YoOoBoMoLloRoHo
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Hamilton pushed out Fulmer, hired Kiffin, hired Dooley and hired Pearl for bball. NCAA issues in both sports on his watch. Yikes. Now doing charity work for Africa.

New AD Hart came from Alabama last year (another reason for my guess of Kirby as HC).

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | The fans hate Sunseri almost (Score:1)
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The fans hate Sunseri almost more than they hate Dooley but then again I know a lot of UT fans personally and they as a whole could possibly be one of the most irrational and delusional fanbases I've ever seen.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:11 PM | There is no almost.  To a (Score:2)
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There is no almost.  To a Vol, Sunseri is GERG times the circumference of Borges' waistline.

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | Agree but he gives Kirby an out (Score:1)
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Kirby arrives and states the issue isn't necessarily Sunseri but a culture missing discipline and hard work. Sunseri knows the Saban process and wants a chance at DC redemption while Kirby goes hands on with D.

If year 1 is a flop, Kirby pushes out Sunseri. If it works, Kirby is a HC and defensive genius - and Sunseri probably leaves anyway. Plus it gives his OC a little breathing room in year 1 as all eyes on Sunseri.

No Kirby, absolutely no Sunseri.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:57 PM | What I need to know, is how (Score:2 Normal)
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What I need to know, is how is this all Lane Kiffins' fault, the connection is there, lets find it. 

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:01 PM | Kiffin == Herpes (Score:3 Normal)
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Kiffin is like a gift that keeps on giving, even when you don't want anymore

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:13 PM | I told my USC-grad/Laker fan (Score:1 Offtopic)
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I told my USC-grad/Laker fan brother-in-law about 2 weeks ago that Mike Brown was the Lane Kiffin of the NBA.  Like a week later he was fired.  I hope that's a sign for things to come.

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:15 PM | It's like terrible thanksgiving (Score:3 Normal)
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When you go to the family member's house that can't cook worth a lick, and every five minutes they go around the table and load another serving of carbonized turkey and rock hard dinner rolls on everyone's plate.

"Please, eat! I made so much!"

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