Tough break for Noel and UK. You've got to wonder how badly this will affect his draft stock. I've seen him rated as the #1 pick in a few different draft projections. Hopefully he'll recover and get back to 100%. Got to wonder if he even considers staying another year even though thats further risking injury.
OT - UK's Noel out for season with torn ACL
I feel bad for that kid. I was really starting to like his game. As for kentucky......maybe the NIT championship is still in reach???
And the NCAA's age-limit rules bone another young high school kid who could've been making millions of dollars this year.
NCAA has nothing to do with it. That rule is set by NBA in accordance with the players union.
I can think of one college freshman that would've been in the NBA if not for the one-year rule, and who got hurt during his freshman year: Nerlens Noel. So for every Nerlens Noel, how many kids are there who aren't talented enough for the NBA but would've declared anyway and are now getting a college degree instead of scraping out a living in Belgium or Sioux Falls?
On a related topic, has anyone heard from Korleone Young lately? Or ever?
I'm strangely OK with the idea that someone might have to wait until they're 19 or 20 before becoming a bazilionaire instead of getting rich at 18 instead. And this injury is not going to prevent Noel from becoming a bazillionaire either.
1. Is it really the responsibility of the NCAA or NBA to protect these kids from themselves?
2. If so, the current one-and-done model doesn't achieve that. One year of college is about as useless as no college at all. Why not require players to stay for an extended period of time before jumping to the NBA?
1. I would argue that the NCAA has some portion of responsibility to do that, yes. But as mentioned, it's not their rule, it's the NBA's. And I think the NBA benefits from it. They certainly seem to believe so. It helps to filter out unready players. Granted, there are still flops, of course, but nothing can turn every draftee into a star.
2. This answer suffers from the same problem as the argument that claims the rule is unfair: too much focus on the ready players, not enough on the unready, which far out number the ready. It's not the players who stay one year that benefit the most. It's the players who would've declared, couldn't, and then were shown how unready they were and stayed. They get a voice in their ears that has something in mind besides an agency contract and getting to bling around in a real NBA posse.
As for the extended period of time, I wouldn't mind at all if they went to two or even three years. But one is better than none. Truthfully the NCAA ought to step in and make the rule like either hockey or baseball, either of which would be an improvement.
Scraping out a living in Europe? Yea it might not be NBA money, but these guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not bad if you ask me.
Damn, I hope he recovers. UK is going to need to rally around that because they haven't been the UK of old this season. Gotta hope that heals 100% so he can continue at the next level.
That sucks man..that sucks
So has he shown enough to just go pro? And if so, how far down does he slide? Some mid-lottery teams are probably licking their chops and looking in to hiring additional medical personnel.
People had him as the likely No. 1 pick
That part I was aware of, that he was the consensus #1, but I should have added context. It's now just a question that won't be answered for quite some time, but: given the ACL tear, how far does he slide?
the NBA drafts primarily on potential, not on results. i think this affects his draft stock minimally, at most.
The main issue is that his game was all about athleticism: shot blocking, rebounding, and rim protection. His offensive game is far less refined than Anthony Davis's was, which itself was a work in progress but you could tell he understood what to do. Noel is pretty clueless offensively, so teams were probably looking at a Tyson Chandler like 4 season horizon before he became a meaningful offensive contributer (Chandler doesn't have much game on his own, but he's perhaps the best rim diver in the league off the pick and roll). Now, this injury would pretty much wipe out his first year if he goes pro, so they'll be looking at having to make a big call on him at the end of his 3rd year with only 2 years of experience.
Still, he's a legit 7 foot rim protector with great timing who eagerly rebounds. There aren't that many guys out there, particularly in this draft, that have those qualities. I wouldn't expect him to slide much lower than 4 or 5 unless his knee is really screwed up.
I'm not sure this would wipe out his first year. November is nine months away. By the start of next season, he should be close to returning if not there already.
Given his game, which involves so much leaping and compression of his joints, I'll bet his recovery is going to be more like a year. Derrick Rose is a good test case. He got hurt at the end of April, and just said that he's not coming back anytime soon. We shouldn't expect Peterson's recovery to be the new norm.
ACL surgery has progressed to the point where the recovery rate for pro athletes (who of course have access to much better trainers/equipment than the average person) is almost 100%. If I wanted to draft him #1 before the injury, I'd still do it.
if you host a sports talk radio show.
"NBA RULES, CLOWNEY, UNION RULES, NCAA, BLARGH!"
USA Today's take is here - (LINK)
Per that article, the surgery will probably be in the next few weeks. It looked rather bad on TV last night, but it was great to see the show of support as the whole team helped him away. Hopefully, all goes well and he recovers fully. They also interviewed the director of his old AAU club, who said Noel sounded positive, which is good to hear.
I know he was a frontrunner for Defensive Player Of The Year. Very, very talented player.
UK was turning things around not solely because of Noel's play, but the journeyman Mays, who has actually brought that team together. really capable player. Noel was very good on the interior, howerver Mays should also be credited with improving that team over the course of this season. Hopefully Noel can come back with a better O game and turn into a real monster.
...is the dumbest thing in college athletics. What a shame for this kid, who could be getting paid for rehabbing if he was able to play in the NBA this season.
Actually I take that back. "One and Done" is the SECOND dumbest thing. It was just passed in the rankings by the first name "Nerlens". Yes, Nerlens is the dumbest. Definitely.
You know the "One and done" rule isn't a NCAA rule? It's an NBA rule
8.5/10 on the McGahee factor.
The kid in the orange shirt, three rows up on the left has the right idea.
Seemed pretty obvious from his injury mechanism. Tough break (tear).
noel's frame has me scared from the get go. doesn't he have the same body as sam bowie and greg oden? they look like spindly gazelles waiting to snap their legs at any moment. the state of their aortic roots is even more unnerving.
Glad you didn't link the article on Yahoo by Pat Forde. Dumbest thing ever written.
I never wish injury on a kid, but Cal reaps what he sows.
Brady Hoke just called me and told me that it is "just a booboo" and that he will be ready to go this weekend
ESPN's Chad Ford still sees him as a top 5 pick