UH says no to Forcier.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/sportsnews/20110720_warriors_end_courtship_of_tate_forcier.html
Apparently, there are still some grade issues among other concerns.
LONG OVERDUE
OT: UH says no to Forcier
July 20th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
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OT: UH says no to Forcier
July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 PM | 
Jesus, they were gonna let
Jesus, they were gonna let
July 20th, 2011 at 2:09 PM |
Last month, Forcier contacted
Last month, Forcier contacted
Last month, Forcier contacted the Warriors. Two weeks ago, Forcier and McMackin had a 1-hour telephone conversation during which Forcier was offered an official recruiting trip. A condition of the trip was UH's receipt of Forcier's transcripts.
UH received the transcripts this past Friday.
Ouch.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:36 PM |
Well ordering official
Well ordering official
Well ordering official transcripts from UM does take 2 weeks, but you would think he'd have one or two handy.
For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:54 PM |
Official vs Unofficial
Official vs Unofficial
Official transcripts are ones sent directly from the University to the other requesting university, job, etc...(except in very rare cases). One which someone can just carry around and have handy for whatever is an unofficial transcript and is about as worthless as walking into a bank to cash a check that the other person didn't sign.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:05 PM |
No
No
No snark intended here, but do people really still care enough to follow his situation?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:10 PM |
Some people do
Some people do
I wish Tate well just like I wish all athlete's I've followed well (save Boren and probably a few others)
It's the offseason and I appreciated the update, but his situation is just sad. He's got one of these:
"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"
July 20th, 2011 at 2:10 PM |
It's approaching trainwreck
It's approaching trainwreck
It's approaching trainwreck status: you know how it will end, but you can't look away.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:10 PM |
I don't
I don't
The world was this kid's oyster, and he chose to be immature and squander opportunities. People treat college students like they are still kids, and I find that ridiculous. He's not a kid. He's a grown man and he should act as such.
There are many causes deserving of sympathy. This is not one of them.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:16 PM |
I wouldn't consider being 18
I wouldn't consider being 18
I wouldn't consider being 18 years old a grown man by any means. A lot of people have trouble adjusting to being away from home with no supervision for the first time. As hard as that is for the average college student, I can't imagine going through all of that plus being the starting QB for U of M and being a Heisman hopeful at one point though I'm sure he wasn't the most grounded person in the world to begin with. The guy messed up and it looks like its going to be following him for a long long time.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:24 PM |
Reality Check
Reality Check
There are lots of kids younger than Forcier that work full time to support their own parents/family (instead of the other way around). Knowing this, I don't have much sympathy for Forcier. He was born with a gift and honed it only to throw it all away. Its sad, but he really has no one to blame but himself.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:35 PM |
True but how many people
True but how many people
True but how many people would have trouble dealing with the amount of hype he got after the ND game. He screwed up mightily and he reaped what he sowed but I wish the guy the best and hope the mistakes he made as a guy straight out of high school doesn't haunt him for the rest his life.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:25 PM |
...
...
I wish him no ill-will and hope he succeeds. But when "hype" is your biggest concern in life, I have trouble feeling sorry for you.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:52 PM |
There are now, and were a lot
There are now, and were a lot
There are now, and were a lot before them, "kids" barely 18 years old serving in the military that have way more resposibility than Tate Forcier had trying to get his team a first down in a game.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:14 PM |
I didn't mean to insinuate
I didn't mean to insinuate
I didn't mean to insinuate that Tate's life as been hard or what he has gone through is anything remotely close to the hardships that many people his age as had to endure but I was simply stating that his personal hardships aren't that unique and were magnified and intensified by his position and profile.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:49 PM |
I get you. I'm not a
I get you. I'm not a
I get you. I'm not a religious guy but the phrase "Everyone carries their own cross" comes to mind. It's not easy to go from being the shit on to well a second thought at 18 or 19. It seems like he has some mental health issues as well.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:00 PM |
T84CA
T84CA
His world turned when he did not prepare himself as well as he should have for the 2010 season. His next turn came when RR declared Denard starting QB, deservingly so, as we all saw him run around defenses. His third turn came when he sat on the bench completely uninterested in that first game. The final straw came at the end of the season when he no longer qualified scholastically.
I, too, wish Tate well. It is he who I will always have engrained in my mind raising his hands with the football as he outran the ND defense and crossed the goal line at the south end of Michigan Stadium in 2009. He was spectacular that day. Without his performance, we would not have won that game.
That said, had Bo been his coach, he wouldn't have made it the rest of the 2010 season the way he sat the bench for game one.
I do hope he gets his college life in order. Only then may he still have a chance at some football. If he can come back from this, he should do well in the real world.
T84CA forever.
A proud first member of the Hoke Pointed at Me Club since 1/12/11.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:34 PM |
He's not a kid. He's a grown
He's not a kid. He's a grown
He's not a kid. He's a grown man and he should act as such.
Cognitive research argues otherwise. Your frontal lobe (responsible for reflection/foresight) does not reach something approaching full maturity until your mid-20s. However, I can't understand why Forcier's parents are such freaks, trying to live their dreams through their kids.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:55 PM |
People who think college kids are grown
People who think college kids are grown
Are still college kids. We all felt that way. Then in the next ten years, we realize how NOT adult we were, and how good we had it.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
July 20th, 2011 at 2:08 PM |
Too bad
Too bad
He could have really had a lot of fun over there: inferior competition, passing offense, and lots of island girls. Hawaii was made to order for him.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:11 PM |
Man....
Man....
this kid just can't catch a break. However, you have to create your own breaks sometimes and he's just not getting his head right. It's a shame....he can definately compete somwhere.
<Insert overused meme here>
July 20th, 2011 at 2:18 PM |
I'd say he caught a ton of
I'd say he caught a ton of
I'd say he caught a ton of breaks. He got a full ride scholarship to the University of Michigan where he can get a first rate education for free. He also had his helmet wings taken away and then earned them back and got back on the team. I would say that's another break he caught when many coaches could have just said "leave", like when Carr would throw transfer papers at a kid and tell him if he doesn't want to put in the work then he's free to go. I don't pity Tate Forcier. Not one bit.
GO BLUE
July 20th, 2011 at 2:14 PM |
Agree that Hawaii perfect
Agree that Hawaii perfect
Except for one thing. If you can't study in Ann Arbor in the winter, how the hell was he ever going to buckle down and study when it's 80 degrees, sunny and the island girls are beckoning to the beach?
Keep your stick on the ice.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:50 PM |
Morning + winter + 15 minute
Morning + winter + 15 minute
Morning + winter + 15 minute walks = missed classes in Ann Arbor
Galileo was also chastised.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:50 PM |
What Are We Studying?
What Are We Studying?
Depends on what or who on the beach you're studying.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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July 20th, 2011 at 2:14 PM |
Sadly...
Sadly...
July 20th, 2011 at 2:15 PM |
How embarrassing. That's
How embarrassing. That's
How embarrassing. That's really the best way to describe it.
GO BLUE
July 20th, 2011 at 2:30 PM |
It's kind of hard for me to
It's kind of hard for me to
It's kind of hard for me to feel sorry for the kid. He finds himself in this situation because he couldn't buckle down and put in the work, either athletically or academically. He comes from a decent, well-off family and never experienced hard times growing up, so he really has no excuse. It's true that not every 18 year-old can be expected to make all the right choices all the time, but when the roster is full of great, hard-working kids who are making the most of their opportunity to play football at a Big Ten school while earning a world-class degree, I can't muster much sympathy for those who didn't seem to appreciate their good fortune.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:31 PM |
Yeah
Yeah
no distractions in Hawaii.
The Forcier family is fucked.
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:39 PM |
Wow...such a sad saga I
Wow...such a sad saga I
Wow...such a sad saga I really really liked the kid during his time here but at some point the fact that these schools are turning him down is a reflection upon himself as a person, he really needs to hit the JUCO circuit get his shit together and then think about a major college transfer if indeed that is his ultimate goal.
Blue is Faster
July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 PM |
For what it's worth if he DID
For what it's worth if he DID
For what it's worth if he DID get his act together I'd take him back on our team in second. I havent forgotten Notre Dame, Indiana or the Illini.
Thanks Tate.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:30 PM |
Like the kid but...
Like the kid but...
I think I'm holding out for a fourth year academic miracle drive...
July 20th, 2011 at 4:57 PM |
Where's the "classy"
Where's the "classy"
Where's the "classy" modification when you need it? Oh well, I hope you don't mind getting an "underrated".
Formerly known as PahokeePahokee
July 20th, 2011 at 2:41 PM |
Forcier can and should overcome this
Forcier can and should overcome this
Forcier seemed like a fairly intelligent guy, so he should be able to perform well enough during a year at a JUCO to subsequently satisfy the academic expectations of lots of universities with football programs. If he wants to solve his relatively small problem, he can do it. I wish him the best.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:01 PM |
How is dancing around with
How is dancing around with
How is dancing around with head phones "being your own problem"? The problem wasn't Tate having an outside the box personality it was that he didn't go to class. Leave the eccentric people alone!
Galileo was also chastised.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:42 PM |
This is why I don't believe
This is why I don't believe
This is why I don't believe in home schooling.
http://midnightmaize.blogspot.com/
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July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 PM |
Good call.
Tim Tebow is a
Good call.
Tim Tebow is a
Good call.
Tim Tebow is a reason I DO believe in home-schooling.
Neither example should be the reason you do or do not do it.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:44 PM |
Tim Tebow is the reason I
Tim Tebow is the reason I
Tim Tebow is the reason I believe in circumcision.
Give it to Wheatley!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:51 PM |
Tim Tebow is a tool. Your
Tim Tebow is a tool. Your
Tim Tebow is a tool. Your argument is invalid.
Galileo was also chastised.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:30 PM |
Oh, so you've met him?
Oh, so you've met him?
Oh, so you've met him?
GO BLUE
July 20th, 2011 at 4:41 PM |
No
No
But it he had met him he'd be a better person for the 5 minutes they'd spent together
/Gatorbowl'd
//Also, I definitely love that Stewie is looking up at him and read your question in a Stewie voice in my head
"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"
July 20th, 2011 at 5:30 PM |
Yeah we circumcised kids
Yeah we circumcised kids
Yeah we circumcised kids together in the Phillippines. Total dick.
Galileo was also chastised.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 PM |
Even after
Even after
It was circumcised?
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
July 20th, 2011 at 2:44 PM |
Just found this quote in an
Just found this quote in an
Just found this quote in an old MGo post, taken from an ESPN article:
On Fridays in the fall, Tate Forcier doesn't feel like going to school. The night's game is on his mind, and the quarterback for Scripps Ranch High in San Diego can't imagine studying a textbook rather than studying a defense. No big deal. "I'll tell my teacher, 'I have a game today,'" Forcier said. "He'll say, 'That's fine; you don't have to come.' And I'll go to my football school and watch film all day."
"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."
July 20th, 2011 at 3:29 PM |
wow
wow
very telling that this was written when he was in high school...
July 20th, 2011 at 2:45 PM |
University of Hawaii: Newest
University of Hawaii: Newest
University of Hawaii: Newest inductee into the Forcier Hall of Shame.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:03 PM |
I hope that kid gets his act
I hope that kid gets his act
I hope that kid gets his act together and lands someplace. Lay off the weed, go to class, crack a book now and again. That's Feat of Clay's 3-step program for college success.
Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:17 PM |
He may need to go to JC to fix his academics
He may need to go to JC to fix his academics
Then, maybe he can find somewhere to use his last 2 years of eligibility. But, it's NOW or NEVER time for Mr. Forcier. Sink or swim. Grow up or stay a kid the rest of his life.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
July 20th, 2011 at 3:18 PM |
My opinion
My opinion
The kid needs to go to a small school. Division 2 or 3 preferably. The kid needs to get a lot of attention to make sure he doesn't get lost like he clearly did at Michigan.
Remember he was home-schooled because of some academic issues. I think the kid needs to get into an environment where it will be almost impossible for him to get lost.
You can get an awesome education at Michigan but if you want to mess around, there's not much to stop you. That's not quite the same case at smaller schools.
This is way past playing football at a high level. That's done, buddy. Get a good education with a football scholarship and have a nice life.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:45 PM |
If I recall, he was
If I recall, he was
If I recall, he was home-schooled in the first place because he had messed up his grades in HS badly enough that he wouldn't graduate with his class unless something changed. Clearly, he didn't learn that lesson.
Hopefully, he can turn things around.
wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
July 20th, 2011 at 4:07 PM |
I think Tate needs to forget
I think Tate needs to forget
I think Tate needs to forget football and just learn how to be a student. He clearly can't function as both. There's no guarantee you're going to make it to the NFL with your size...at least get a decent education from a good school so you can do something.
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Jesus, they were gonna let him go there, meet his requirements, then play in 2012. This kid seriously needs to get his act together, but I doubt he ever will... Entitlement is a hard thing to shake I guess when you have been told you are the best thing to ever happen to the world your entire life (ask lebron james or TP)