OT: UEFA Champions League Group Draw

I'm thinking C,E,F - Then again, I could be batsht nuts.

Five clubs have won the Champions League/European Cup four times or more, and three of them are in this group. Real Madrid has 9 titles, AC Milan has 7 and AFC Ajax has 4. Based solely on reputation and history, that is a stacked group.

I'm interested in group C as a supporter of Rangers and Valencia (bound to be disappointed somehow since ManU will advance for sure) but honestly Rangers aren't that great even with their new signings and Burpsasor doesn't worry me, even if they are Turkish champions, mostly because I have never heard of them.  G is batshit crazy (Milan, Real Madrid+Jose Mourinho, Ajax and a team from a major league).  Twente are good and the other three teams in group A are from big leagues, so that one's threatening as well.  I like Arsenal, so I'm glad to say group H strikes me as really weak. 

Predictions (Winner, Runner-Up):

GROUP A: Inter Milan, Spurs
GROUP B: Schalke, Lyon
GROUP C: Manchester United, Valencia
GROUP D: Barcelona, Panathinaikos
GROUP E: Roma, Bayern Munich
GROUP F: Chelsea, Spartak Moscow
GROUP G: Real Madrid, Ajax
GROUP H: Braga, Arsenal

let's go Olympique Lyonnais!

WOOOOOOOOO ARSENAL all the way. Great draw

Group A: Holy crap. The title holder, top team from the second pod, top team from the third pod, and second-highest (based on the UEFA club coefs) from the fourth. They're from the leagues rated 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 10th (and I'm really surprised the Eredivisie is rated that low). That is freaking stacked.

Group B: Mid-level on quality, but it should be competitive at least - Lyon is the lowest top seed, Benfica and Schalke are both middle of their pods, and Hapoel Tel Aviv is the top team in the fourth pod.

Group C: Man U is going to win the group; could be interesting between Valencia and Rangers for the other spot, but Scottish teams have really had trouble in Europe of late, so I'm going with Valencia there. Bursaspor ... uh, welcome to the Champions League; it's not going to be a long stay.

Group D: I'll be surprised if Barcelona ends up with less than 16 points (although Rubin Kazan actually beat them in the group stage last year). Pana and Copenhagen are both at the bottom of their pods; somehow Barcelona always seems to get a wimpy group.

Group E: Shouldn't be a lot of drama here; Bayern and Roma should have little difficulty with Cluj and Basel.

Group F: Another one that should be a total domination for the top team; Marseille, Spartak Moscow, and Zilina are all in the bottom two in their pods.

Group G: Pretty well stacked, with all representing top leagues (2nd, 3rd, 5th, 10th). Bad luck for Ajax to get Real Madrid as their second-pod team; I'd say the same for Auxerre but they weren't going to do anything anyway.

Group H: Not ridiculously weak, but if Arsenal manages to screw this draw up they ought to be embarrassed. Shaktar might take the top spot from them, maybe, but it would be a major shock to see Partizan or Braga get through.

A and G should be the toughest; B and C are more likely to have a fair bit of drama (although in C that will likely be confined to the race for 2nd/3rd).

Poor Auxerre.  I've liked them for some time now, but I don't see them getting out of that group.  They'll pull off an upset though, just can't even begin to say which team.

Real, Ajax, and Milan. Good lord. That'll be a tough one for Ajax to get out of.

Arsenal got a cake draw and should be ashamed if they don't advance. Same with Chelsea.

Lyon could be the side in trouble. Benfica and Schalke will push them.

A is a tough group too. Any one of Inter, Spurs, and Bremen could advance.

Not sure how I feel about Group C. It's the most interesting group by far. Turkish sides are notoriously tough outs and neither Valencia nor Rangers will lay down for Man U.