spoiler alert: i linked this
What did I just read?
So she's saying use a real husky as their mascot? Sounds like an awesome idea
/s in case
this country has turned today's kids into a bunch of wimps. They cater to the minority for every little thing so they dont get offended.
welcome to America, since forever
Catering to the minority represents very little of American history.
And all those things are fairly recent. And I'm not sure how Barack Obama being elected president means slaves were catered to....
most of the policital system in the US is designed to avoid the "tyranny of the majority" and it can be argued that this is why the republic has lasted as long as it has.
would you all like some examples?
Well the people groups I listed would have a say about how well it has prevented the tyranny of the majority. But I'm not going to argue about it here b/c of board policies. I bid you adieu
you're talking about tyranny of the powerful over the powerless/unrepresented based on race/class.
I'm talking about majority rule limitations based in the constitution and structure for the republic: the senate, the fillibuster, 2/3 suremajority votes, the electoral college, and the checks & balances system in general.
Are those groups of people not minority groups that were discriminated against in this country? If you were talking about the political system, you should have specified in your first post instead of making a general statement.
I would agree our political system does not cater to the majority. It caters to the minority of the rich and powerful and was designed that way in the counter revolution after we won independence.
That's what Eric Bolling said about the firing of Mike Rice. This article is fractally absurd and thus humorous, but making blanket get-off-my-lawn statements is rather petty.
"no matter what resolution you look at it, it's still ridiculous"
I ordered a Negro to shine my boots the other day, and he got mad at me. Can you believe it?!
I don't get it. Was this woman writing raped by a Husky at some point in her life?
Is she saying that she had a bad experience with a husky and that the new logo is so realistic that it reminds her of it? What the hell?
I just took a major ride on the lollercoaster.
EDIT: After reading the whole thing, it makes slightly more sense. Kind of. Not really.
I bet she isn't in a sorority.
However, she may be drunk.
I mean....come on
Is this the drinking thread?
I have a growler from the Kuhnhenn of their DRIPA. It's really good, but at almost 10% I don't get to drink as much as I'd want. It's Friday so i'll have a second glass, though.
Lets just make the drinking thread in replies of my post and yours.
I picked up a 22 oz bomber of Three Floyd's Rabbid Rabbit saison ale. Really good.
Now on to Unibroue's Ephémère. Very champagne like, good and doing the trick.
Isn't UConn most known for its WOMEN's basketball team? Of all the schools that prioritize "male athletic peer culture," UConn ain't so bad.
As for the rest of it....see above comments of confusion.
Hey, just because I like football doesn't mean I don't have a feminine side. Really, though, I was glancing through the Purdue blog Boiled Sports and there was mention of the story in the Twitter feed on the blog. So, which would be more pathetic, spending my Friday evening looking at a Purdue sports blog or a feminist magazine?
what the OP was doing reading The Feminist Wire when he stumbled across that article.
You beat me by a minute, Butterfield. Your great mind is just slightly faster than my almost-great mind, I guess...
That Husky is LITERALLY raping me with it's gaze.
It's eye-fucking you?
That is not synonymous with rape and it's people like you that allow others to thin it is.
of possible suspects:
The 54 year old polar bear looks guilty.
Was apparently part of Disneyland.
He doesn't look like he's raping anyone.
Hmmmm, maybe just with his eyes....
Patriot Husky is armed in the photo, I can tell you as Patriot Husky's attorney that this is an outrageous violation of Patriot Husky's rights. Highly prejudicial.
Move their home football game to Michigan Stadium to de-emphasize sports.
I'm here for the gangbang.
Rename the mascot a Huskerete.
I mean, I guess they are in fact both dogs:
Just a PSA, we're all being real misogynistic by commenting on this.
Should I feel threatened?
And geeze, how often does U-Conn change their logo? Talk about branding concerns...
^ This should be the president's response. That's gold. And is probably accurate if we're talking about an angry husky.
It's not even a rape meme. It's Insanity Wolf. 99% of it isn't about rape. It's about crazy insane shit.
The letter is way too over-written with buzz words and rhetorical flourishes, so it's hard to figure out exactly what she means, but I think she's making 2 points:
1. UConn has had a number of embarrasing incidents recently (APR-based postseason ban; athletes in trouble with law, specifically violence against women), and the administrations to be responding by re-branding rather than addressing the underlying issues. This seems like a reasonable complaint on its face, though I don't know enough about the issues to figure if the criticism is accurate or not.
2, and the really confusing part. The administration is playing into the worst aspects of stereotypical jock culture by creating a "fighting dog" image that "can't be messed with." Personally, I think that's reading too much into a logo and a standard-issue coach's quote. On the other hand, when the writer says "I know what it feels like to have a real life Husky look straight through you and to feel powerless, and to wonder if even the administration cannot “mess with them,"" I think the "real life Husky" she's referring too is a UConn athlete and not a, you know, actual real Husky. If she has been the victim of violence or fealt threatened by an athlete, I can understand her reading too much into a logo and a quote even if I don't agree with it.
Of course, as I said, it was hard to make heads or tails of much of the writing in the letter, so I could be completely wrong in my interpretation.
She was about a quarter of the way home to making a good point about about not sweeping on-the-ground issues under the rug with rebranding, but everything unraveled pretty badly when she associated a cartoon dog with sexual assault. I'm also not sure why the kid who was charged with tresspassing while on spring break needed to be mentioned.
I am a prosecutor, and I exclusively prosecuted domestic violence cases for a couple years. Violence towards women is a serious problem that is often ignored in our society. Rape victims are ostracized and often are judged more harshly than defendants at trial. Domestic abusers control their victims by threatening to take away or harm their kids. Many, if not most, homicides are the result of domestic violence.
I could go on, but my point is that a fucking new husky logo is not the problem. This woman is an idiot.
You, sir, have boiled this kerfuffle down to its essential vapors.
They sell RL at Kohls now?
I'm just saying, if I had a choice between hooking up with Maryland sorority chick and UConn Husky complainer chick, I'm heading to College Park 10 time out of 10.
I have no idea what exactly her issue with the new logo was. I can understand the rebranding being an issue if they're just trying to slap a new face on a department with some serious issues, but she completely loses me when she links all of these gender issues to a new husky face.
To comment on what I think I read, "powerful and aggressive" is just as desirable on the female side of the athletic department as it is on the mens; I guarantee Hutch and Barnes Arico aren't out recruiting players they would describe as meek and passive.
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife
Fun fact: UCONN has had three players already selected in the 2013 NFL draft. The B1G has had only four selected. Rape Huskie FTW.
Young lady has every right to her opinion. It's a silly opinion though.
That's a good logo. It could be a female or male husky.
Still, it's better to be a Wolverine.
It could be a she-male.
I think Becca from UMD should have written that letter. It would have been Christopher Walken-esq bliss.
A conversation between the two would be interesting.
Reading the letter, it doesn't sound like she really objects to the logo in itself so much as she objects to the logo in what she perceives as its context. From her perspective, male violence against women is a systemic issue with UConn athletics that has gone unacknowledged by the school administration. Rebranding in the midst of this is a bit of a white washing, is what she seems to be arguing. I think her comments about the logo being aggressive and emblematic of male athletic peer culture are just rhetorical devices to try to get her point across. She wanted to discuss violence against women at UConn, and the imagery of the logo happened to provide a convenient way of doing that. At least that's how I interpret her letter.
I think there are good reasons to disagree with her, but I think some of you are being uncharitable to her position.
They're joking about logo rape, which is ridiculous. If anything people are making fun of the fact that she's trivializing serious concerns about the subject with such an overblown, self-important screed. Likening the "look" of a dog logo to real violence against women is offensive, not mocking her for it.
Her odd dog/logo reference. If she has in fact been raped by an actual dog I think everyone will feel guilty. Even more so if there's been a rash of rapes by logos on the U-Conn campus. But I'm not overly concerned that it's the case. More likely it's someone who is just looking for stuff to be offended by and thus put themselves on an enlightened high horse, using horrible metaphors. With your track record of posts, I'm sure you can relate.
is hardly bringing out the best in this blog's readership.
No one is "trivializing rape". The criticisms are about this girl's complete inability to make a cogent argument.
Her argument that "making a new logo means the administration at UConn doesn't care about violence" is roughly the logical equivalent of people complaining that "spending 5 minutes filling out an NCAA bracket means the president doesn't care about America".
She can complain about the athletic department all she wants, and she may have a valid point. But she's trying to connect two things that aren't connected. Her argument is rambling, disjointed, and makes some strange leaps. Even if she has valid complaint about the state of the UConn athletic department, she comes off as someone who's just looking for things to be upset about.
People are making fun of her making a stink out of a school mascot change to a ferocious looking husky and the comparison of it as being the same as a rape meme which it it's not. Why doesn't she complain about the Notre Dame Fighting Irishman who is clearly a depiction of an actual violent man? Lets stop the dog discrimination in America, it's gone too far.
As any experienced dog owner can tell you, it's not the Huskies or the pit bulls or the Rotties you should be concerned about.
Stay the fuck away from Akitas.
I have two shiba inu and let me tell you, while they are smaller than their Akita cousins they are 10 times brasher and bolder. Internment camps have started popping up in states across the west and this discrimination can't be tolerated. Their intentions are misconstrued and even though it sounds like they are trying to kill your dog trust me they are not. They just want to play.
I have a wife, a daughter, a sister, and numerous female cousins who I love very much. I have a number of female friends and/or colleagues who I have a great amount of affection and respect for.
For that reason alone, my attitudes about rape boil down to this: castrate the motherfucker. Without painkillers. Yes, I know we don't do that, but that's my impulse. That's what laws and Constitutions are in place to protect against.
To equate the mere adoption of an athletic logo with active or tacit support of a rape culture is simply stupid and juvenile, and indicates a thoroughgoing misunderstanding of our cultural nuances. That's what you get with 20-something college students. I was an undergraduate in the early '70s, so I have a deep familiarity with earnest but comically naive jeremiads against popular culture.
But, subjecting her to mocking threats of rape and other kinds of abuse is equally stupid, and to the extent possible under the law, the idiots making those threats should be prosecuted.
Moral of this story: the internet is flypaper for morons.
I think she was saying they should use this as their mascot?
All I needed to see was the word "feminist" in the URL for me to not click it.
As a wise man named The Rock once said, "Know your role.....and shut your mouth!"
Right out the window. Sigh.
(though on second look "I'm here for the gangbang" was a poorly timed meme)
Terrible idea for a post. Second Bolivia trip is two months (third would be four, ect.).
Ah, I knew it was coming eventually. No big deal. I shall meet Professor X, WingsNWolverines, goblueram etc there.
Bolivia is getting pretty crowded. Luckily I still have my hut from my last trip.
Carolyn Luby sounds like a crazy person.
Breaking news: the Husky mascot has just been linked to the Lincoln assassinaton.
There probably exists a problem of entitlement with respect to student athletes at certain universities. Her scant presentation of evidence with respect to uconn doesn't really tell me that much, but it seems like this can and should be a concern on certain campuses.
That said I fail to see the connection to feminism or violence against women or the attempt to change the logo of the school. A few more English/writing classes probably would not hurt this young woman. No more than a husky logo anyway...
First, this is a very poorly written piece that does a terrible job of expressing coherent thoughts. As some have mentioned above, I think the author's point is largely that the university should not be spending its resources on re-branding and should instead focus on addressing serious problems in its athletic culture.
However, the reason I felt compelled to post here is that I think there might be a meaning to the last paragraph that we're not picking up on. I think her "real life Husky" line (note the capital "H") is a reference to a specific UConn athlete, and given the context probably one who assaulted/attempted to assault the author.
If that's the case, it changes the whole meaning of the piece (at least in my mind) from misguided rant to coping mechanism. I can't fault a victim of assault/sexual assault for having a knee-jerk reaction to something that reminds them of their experience, and the over-emotional, poorly presented argument in this piece reads exactly like that type of reaction.
In short, I sincerely hope that if the author of this piece IS a victim of sexual assault that she is receiving support and help in response to her letter as opposed to scorn.
She's still talking about a PICTURE! A picture cannot sexually assault you. No matter how advanced it is.
Note: This is a fake explanation for thep hoto. It's just a picture of a mother and her adopted child. But none the less, it makes the point.
Imagine for a second that you're a victim of sexual assault, and because your assailant is a member of a sports team you forever associate that sports team with your experience. Then that sports team redesigns their logo with the purpose of making it more "aggressive." I think its perfectly reasonable to expect a severe emotional reaction in that situation, and that is what we're seeing in this piece.
She's not trying to promote a rational point that logos promote rape, she's drawing an emotional connection between UConn athletics and her own experience and trying to put that connection into words. That is an extraordinarily difficult thing to do, and I don't fault her in the least for turning out a disjointed, unclear series of comments.
Again, IF she was sexually assaulted by a UConn athlete, then I think this piece is part of her personal attempt to cope and come to terms with her experience. And if that's the case, then regardless of its content or how incoherent it seems, I salute her for the bravery it takes to put such a difficult thing into words and post it for the world to see.
That's not a reasonable reaction. By your logic, if she were assaulted by a black man, she should hate and fear black people and anything that promotes or exemplifies black culture.
A group is only defined by the members that make it up in as much as those members embrace the rules, regulations and charter of the group. Unless you can show that UCONN athletics in some way supports sexual assault, then holding any sort of grudge, resentment, or even mild fear, aggravation or negative sentiment towards UCONN athletics because of the actions of one person whom was dismissed is hate, not rational fear.
This woman may not realize it, but her fear of assault has turned her racist.
This is a serious psychologically damaging event. Obviously it shouldn't prejudice a person against an entire group they identify their assailant as a part of, but it will. Pretty much every time. Logic and reason are notoriously terrible at overcoming visceral fear and emotion in situations like this.
I would also argue that in the mind of a victim, the several cases she cites of unethical behavior going unpunished could easily represent evidence that the university essentially sanctioned her assault. To you and I this may seem like a clear misreading of the facts, but (unless you have something you'd like to share) we're not victims of sexual assault.
The main thing I would try to get across to you is that you shouldn't assume that if you were faced with this situation you would be able to handle it any more reasonably than she did. She's just another human being trying to cope with a terrible situation. She's now the laughingstock of the internet, and I don't think she deserves that.
Just found this article about the fallout from the Feminist Wire piece, and it confirms the author is a rape victim.
The news that she is being threatened for expressing her opinion is absolutely disgusting. The responses she received say a lot more about this issue than the contents of her letter.
I called her an idiot in a comment above. I do not think she's an idiot for being raped or for carrying the emotional scars of being raped. She's probably an intelligent woman, but her letter is idiotic on several levels. One, as I stated above, a university's decision to change an athetic department's logo is in no way related to rape. Two, she attacks the university for low APRs and a few criminal incidents involving athletes and assumes that the university is doing nothing about its problems because it created a new husky logo. Three, she is projecting her horrible experience onto all of the male athletes in the athletic department.
I was involved in intercollegiate athletics as a coach of an Olympic/non-revenue sport years ago. I coached men and women. Most of the young men I coached were wonderful young men who would not tolerate a rapist on their team. Although my sport was not an "agressive" sport, some of these young men played "aggressive" sports like football, basketball or hockey in high school and some did not. I did not look at some of my athletes and think, "Look at those potential rapists over there who played football growing up." That would be a generalization, and thus wrong.
Blanket generalizations about any group (athletes, Christians, Jews, Muslims, blacks, whites, etc.) are unproductive and harmful towards members of those groups. See Duke lacrosse.
Also, my background as a prosecutor has showed me that rapists and abusers come from a wide variety of backgrounds. The only thing they have in common is that they are pathetic losers.
If the university covered up this young woman's rape, then that is a huge problem that she should publicly speak out against. However, there are better ways than writing an article filled with innuendo about a husky logo. Regardless, the people who are threatening her are the biggest idiots here.
Because the article certainly doesn't indicate her ex played for U-Conn. If not her blanket statement towards athletics is worse because it shows that any student could be a perpetrator. And even if so, it's not fair to lump them all together.
i thought she was taking about animal cruelty. also, i think it looks tight
Of course the young lady's letter reveals emotional turmoil. God bless them all, there's too much toxic stress for young people these days.
Probably not exactly a perfectly balanced world for you or I as well.
Goodness knows, when you can find the gumption to write a formal complaint over a university athletics logo because somebody associated with university athletics once committed sexual assault, you're really a tortured soul exposed to the absolute worst times of humanity.
*Students attend school via radio from a bomb shelter in WWII England. They do not bitch about the pilots' decisions on erotic or misogynist aircraft nose art.
Your spell check is broken.
I'd say it was nice knowing you, but not really.