Which one of these are fixed?
OT-UCL Open Thread
... is on Juventus.
Outside of that defensive lapse, Celtic hasn't looked that bad.
Anyone know when Barca plays next? Later this month?
Next Wednesday at Milan.
Curious - is Beckham playing for PSG? Or has he not reported to the team yet?
He met up with them today. They will train together for the first time tomorrow afternoon.
I'm not sure whether he's on the team roster for the Champions League, but his first match for PSG might be 2/24 against Marseille. One heck of an introduction if true.
It will be absolutely fascinating to watch Gus Johnson call the Man U/Real match tomorrow. Major props to the guy for taking on the challenge and immersing himself in a sport which he had no previous knowledge of. From the interviews it seems like he's picked up a ton real fast.
Especially since that game of all the others will probably be one (if not the) most watched in the States. I'm surprised they don't have him start on a smaller, less watched match first. Then again, all he'll really need to do to be successful tomorrow is verbally masturbate Ronaldo.
He's been calling SJ Quakes games...on radio. Not sure it gets smaller than that.
I'm about as excited by Gus calling soccer as I'd be by Martin Tyler calling the NFL.
The Real - Manchester series ten years ago next month was one of the biggest matchups in about 20 years. The results from that Madrid triumph shaped a decade of world soccer (think about it - Abramovich decided to purchase Chelsea because of the games, Beckham left for Madrid, Ronaldo's hat trick in 55 minutes, etc.)
Now think of all the backstory this matchup has - Ferguson v. Mourinho, Ronaldo facing United, Giggs doing it for the 23rd season, Chicharito, Rooney, Van Persie's history with Madrid and the Spanish players, the media war between Casillas's girlfriend (a Spanish reporter) and Mourinho, Ozil v. England last summer, etc. etc.
I'll be interested to hear whether Gus intelligently weaves all these storylines into his broadcast like Martin Tyler would, or if he simply decides to scream and say "pure" when describing a square pass by Sergio Ramos.
Might be worth noting that the two teams that lead, PSG and Juve, had the best defensive records during the group stages with 3 and 4 goals conceded from 6 games, respectively
Hailed to be basically unbeatable at home, there is no way Celtic breaks this Juve midfield. Especially when Buffon scoops up everything sent his way. Hooper is more worried about humping the Juve defense than he is about scoring. Neil Lennon will go to Turin with his ginger tail between his legs. Celtic's glory ends when the Mighty Glasgow Rangers are rightfully back in the top-tier. Rangers: the world's most successful football club!
Gonna be a loooooooong 3+ years my friend.
4th highest attendance in Europe and we're in the 3rd division of a deplorable Scottish league. Get your silver while you can because we're coming down the road for ya.
I'm not sure if I'd be bragging about the 4th highest anything, let alone attendance. All that says is that there's nothing else sports-wise to attend in Scotland, if it says anything at all. Plus, I don't think ranking high in attendance puts the Rangers in anywhere near the European elite drawers that are Barcelona, Real, Manchester U (I assume those are the top 3?)
home attendance would put them about 4th in EPL behind ManU, Arsenal, Newcastle. Considering they are playing in the lowest tier of Scotish Football its pretty impressive the fans are still going to games.
Ranger's and Celtic are monsters in the SPL, akin to Michigan and Ohio playing in the MAC but still drawing the huge crowds. Rangers just under 50,000 capacity, Celtic around 60,000
After those two I think the next biggest stadium in Scotland is like 22,000 capacity in Aberdeen.
Your comparing the small country of Scotland that lives in the shadow of England, to perennial, and more populous countries in Europe. There really are no other sports in Scotland. Rugby, cricket, and highland games draw fans, but football is king. Attendance is everything off the field. No one wants to play an empty fixture. Ask DB. Attendance means money which means improvements.. On and off the field. Could you imagine the Tigers getting kicked down to single A ball yet keeping Comerica and the fans? That's what's happening to the Glasgow Rangers.
Rangers: the world's most successful football club!
My co-workers just wondered why I laughed out loud at a computer screen.
Juventus = Michigan MBB. Because I know nothing about elite European soccer, this weak connection is enough to lead me to cheer for Juventus (although the WSJ was not making a flattering remark about the parallels).
Used to be a power, scandal hit, some down years, now back at the top.
Actually the parallels are scary.
Except it really only took Juventus about 3 years to truly recover, whereas it took Michigan 15.
Been filling the stands of Ibrox while your clan sits on their asses.. 54 league titles speak for themselves. Your nothing without us. Glad to let Juve use our training ground to beat y'all at home.
So do 0 European Champions' League or Champions Cup finals appearances, let alone victories.
What are those stars above our crest? They're definitely not for decoration bud.
Those are for domestic titles. One for every 10 Scottish Championships they've won. Rangers did win Europe in '72, and have made a handful of Finals appearances, though.
Rangers won the Cup Winners' Cup, not the European Cup. Therefore, they technically didn't win Europe. Celtic still hold the edge in the European Cup count.
So by SSC logic Michigan only has considerably less NC wins because they were won before the new era..? Didn't think so. Michigan has 11. 1 euro title just like y'all and 50+ league titles. We also own the head to head. If I were you I'd worry about the Juve defense. I think I can hear their fans over you clowns.
That is all.
You think I'm a Celtic fan? Look at my avatar if you actually believe that. And don't try and sell the fact that the Cup Winner's Cup is equal to the European Cup. It was a third rate competition because the European Cup only took league champions and you didn't make the UEFA Cup. And it doesn't even exist any more. At least the European Cup survived and evolved into the Champions League.
Actually the UEFA cup was the second tier Championship of all the domestic runners up, inaugurated in 72. The Cup Winners-Cup was the pseudo-Champions League of all the Domestic Cup winning teams. If you won the FA Cup, or the Copa Del Rey, or the Coppa Italia, or the DFB Cup, or the Scottish Cup, or the Coupe de France, ect. you'd participate in the Cup Winners Cup. It was eventually absorbed into the UEFA Cup for the 2000 season, but in 72 it was very prestigeous, as winning those cups still is.
Good point. I'd still slot it below the European Cup, but you're correct on that account.
You see, many other clubs like Bayern, Milan, Inter, Juventus, Ajax, Barcelona, Manchester United, Liverpool, etc. put stars on their jerseys for true achievements (not defeating a league with no more than 3 legitimate teams at any one time).
All those clubs keep the stars for winning Europe, something Rangers has never done except for a then-third-rate competition.
Well we know Liverpool will never win the EPL so they'll have plenty of room for "legitimate" stars.. Whatever that means. An do you realize how small of a country Scotland is compared to England, Germany, and Italy? I'd say that's a praise, not a knock, to have three good teams every year.
Barca doesn't put stars on their jerseys.
Except Celtic didn't get sent down to the 4th tier via administration. Thanks for the laughs though.
How many Man U supporters will come out of the woodwork for tomorrows match? It'll be awful.
I admit I clicked this thread mainly because I had no clue what UCL stood for. Honestly I've always thought soccer was cool enough, but I can't get into it because I don't have any emotional connection to any teams.
I was never into it until last year and now I'm addicted. I admit that I don't know nearly as much as these guys, but I am able to recognize good play (I think) and definitely appreciate the beauty of the game generally. I because a Barcelona fan because of their technique but you could choose a team based on whatever you find most interesting about the sport - some people like more rough play, some like faster play, some like offense/defense, etc. Its pretty cool to start being a fan of a team from scratch. Try it out! Watch a lot of Champions League matches and pick your favorite.
I need more local Wolves' supporters, join the cause! Although it might not be fun b/c we're only on TV once or twice a month and are possibly facing our second consecutive relegation.
Celtic all over Juve here. Need a result at home or they are out cause I don't see them getting anything in Turin. 'Mon the Hoops!
Gilt-edge chance squandered by Ambrose to put Celtic level...
but I am rooting for ManU.
Now I am going to go take a shower and brush my teeth and fabreze my keyboard. Ugh.
The one thing that I find very strange being a Barca fan is seeing them play Real so many times during the year. I'm used to Michigan-Ohio matchup once a year (the equivalent of the Real-Barcelona matchup, I think) that its strange to see them go at it 5-6+ times a year. Still pretty cool though.
every time there is a matchup I say to my girlfriend in an almost geeked out voice "THERE'S A CLASICO TODAY!!"
Then she'll be like, "wasn't there one like two weeks ago?"
Me: "Well yeah, but . . . There's a clasico today!!!"
The # of matchups doesn't diminish the importance in my eyes. The Ohio rivalry is a great comparison.
but did you see we extended the contracts of Messi, Xavi, and Puyol? God I love our team. Can you believe this little Argentine has won BD 4 straight times and he's only 25? Crazy.
I truly didn't start watching until last year and I sampled all kinds of teams in trying to figure out who I wanted to support. I purposely tried not to choose a front-runner just to make it more interesting but time after time I found myself attracted to their style of play. And it doesn't hurt to use time rooting for a team that has arguably the greatest player to ever play the game. Messi truly is mesmerizing. I think my second favorite player is Cesc - quiet but productive. And I really liked watching Cuenca but hear he was loaned out to Ajax(?). I'm not a big Tello fan.
but Messi is and will be the greatest when he's done. Pele can screw himself (which he'd probably do if he could considering his ego).
Okay mean part is over. I love Cesc, and am glad he is back home, but my nod probably goes to Xavi. Guy can create scoring opportunites like no one else.
Gary Hooper needs a chance. 1 chance and it's level, I promise you.
That is all.
And Celtic is likely out of it. Juve up 2-0.
The Celtic are shite.
Okay, I'll bite . . . Why wouldn't you root for a fellow Scottish team like Michigan fans generally root for Ohio State against SEC teams, for example? Doesn't make sense to me - countrymen are supposed to stick together, no?
Celtic vs. Rangers used to be Catholics vs. Protestants in Glasgow (and still is in a way). Until about 1990 it featured an all Catholic Celtic team against an all Protestant Rangers team. It might be the world's most deadly rivalry.
I think I knew that background (forgot) but didn't realize that it still dominates the fan base.
Oh, and no religion!
We answered. You can mention religion without using flamethrower.
Yeah, add in Irish nationalism from the fact that the club used to be made up of mostly Irish immigrants and it gets fun. The other two posts below mine summarized it much better though.
That rivalry is more than two American football teams who hate each other meeting in November. It intersects political, religious, and traditional differences. Some of these differences go back centuries in England, Scotland, and Ireland. A Celtic win further advances their political agenda, and that is not something I support. So it's a lot more complicated than despising a conference as a whole. That is why I will never offer any support for Celtic.
The Celtic-Rangers rivalry has undertones that go as deep as they come in the world of sports. These undertones are cultural, and religious in nature and, to be honest, the rivalry eclipses Michigan-Ohio in terms of pure intensity and hatred.
Beat me to it, but you hit it on the head.
They could be Rangers.
Or they could be down 3-0. So this is why the pope resigned..
+1 for "this is why the Pope resigned"
-1 for the fact that Rangers are still playing against part time plumbers behind high school parking lots.
That's more than Celtic can say on aggregate. I may put a ten on a Celtic 4-0 win in Turin just because the return would enable me to retire out of college.
Well played Juve. Juve up 3 now.
Lily livered ref at Celtic. Juventus defensive wrestling should have resulted in at least one penalty. Apply the laws ref. stain on game
Have been following online since I am at work but it looks like Celtic just ha happen to them what Celtic and rangers try to do every year when they get to this level: sit back, get dominated, take advantage of their few chances.
Oh Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy.. NaNaNaNaNaNa!
A loss for Celtic is a win for Rangers..
Except that since we can be pretty sure the second place team in the SPL will get laughed out of the qualifying rounds for the next couple years, Rangers need Celtic to rack up all the coefficient points they can get if they want two UCL spots left when they get back up.
Well, once you've beaten Barcelona, getting motivated to play a team of mere mortals may be too much to expect. 'Salright, then...Champions League play after New Year's is unheard of in the SFA these days...glad it was Celtic representing.
That red card on Ibra was such crap. Hopefully it won't hurt in the return game with PSG at home and 2 away goals already in the books
Ill agree that it probably shouldn't have been called.... But it was a studs-up challenge and he didn't come close to the ball. The letter of the law supports the red card, it was dangerous.
I feel like it's a bit rough in the last minute of a game. Give him a yellow to put him on notice the rest of the tournament but don't give him a red for something meaningless that can dramatically change the next leg
It's harsh, but studs-up tackles are essentially always red card offenses. They fall under "serious foul play" and aren't really subjective in nature. If you're going to call a penalty on Ibra in that last minute, it's going to be a red. The only time you'll see a studs-up challenge get a yellow card is if the challenge was very close to the ball. Ibra was miles from connecting with the ball. I'm not surprised he got a red, he's the same player who kicked multiple teammates in the head at AC Milan (apparently for fun... Once he kicked a teammate in the head during a TV interview). He has got to be more disciplined in his challenges. Ultimately I still think PsG goes through.
Wow, what a dramatic ending at the Mestalla. Valencia still need to grab 2 goals is Paris, but that is not impossible.
Edit: Goals not gals...
I can't decide which would be easier for them... Grabbing two goals in Paris or grabbing two gals in Paris. I lived in Paris for a bit, and based on my experience, I think Valencia should go for the gals.
Such a demoralizing loss for Celtic. Put everything into it. Now I fear they'll be on the end of a real pasting in the return leg.
to give up football for Lent was a bit rash. No matter...they've given a good account of themselves overall...I'm used to them being out of the UEFA (sorry, EUROPA) Cup at this point of the campaign, so this year was a nice distraction. We'll always have the Barca tie.
The Spanish league has to be the best in all of Europe, right? By my count they have 4 out of 16 still standing (Malaga, Valencia, Real, Barca).
La Liga is insanely top heavy. The drop off after the top 3 or 4 is monstrous. The EPL is the best league all around.
Bruins, wooden, shabazz muhammad anyone?