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OT: UCal Falls Victim to Building the Brand

Since we're a board of conservative people who hate change, I present UCal's amazing misstep in branding.  Their logo change:

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Frozen loading bar or flushing toilet, you decide.  Whatever it is, it isn't higher education.  At the end of the day, let us just be thankful that Dave Brandon has yet to hire the design firm who performed this fuckup.   

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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December 12th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | A simple block "M" is huge (Score:4 Normal)
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A simple block "M" is huge from an I P standpoint. DB is right on the mark.

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:59 PM | Although sometimes (Score:4 Normal)
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I think he overdoes it with the block M. They're on the bathroom placards in Crisler for crying out loud. 

Man ball. Formerly, somebody else.

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December 12th, 2012 at 8:53 PM | Brandon or someone in the IP (Score:5 Normal)
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Brandon or someone in the IP area at Michigan wants the block M to be unequivocally associated with the University of Michigan.  It is a very smart move.  As for displaying the M in too many places, that is another matter.  Personally, I never get tired of seeing it.

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December 12th, 2012 at 9:02 PM | Yeah, I never tire of it (Score:2)
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Yeah, I never tire of it either.  The school hasn't been completely uniform about using it though; the new bus stop area by the dental school has the old split M.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | This logo brought to you (Score:5 Normal)
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This logo brought to you courtesy of the "airbrush" feature in MS paint.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | That graphic artist must have (Score:5 Normal)
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That graphic artist must have some kind of steady hand with the mouse.  Whenever I try to use the airbrush on Paint whatever I'm working on turns into a polka dotted mess. 

The swag is back. 

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:55 PM | Looks like (Score:4 Normal)
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Still looks like some medical sign for intestinal discomfort or perhaps a prescription drug logo for some kind of pill that clears up the drippy shits.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | Yeah, it sucks... (Score:5 Normal)
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Yeah, it sucks, but the firm that made it is now a Legend and a Leader.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Looks like a coiler in a (Score:3 Normal)
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Looks like a coiler in a toilet bowl.

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December 12th, 2012 at 5:00 PM | Image please! (Score:2 Normal)
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Image please!

Man ball. Formerly, somebody else.

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December 12th, 2012 at 9:45 PM | Seriously? Is that like, a (Score:5 Normal)
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Seriously? Is that like, a fetish, or what's going on there?

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 AM | As the owner of two toilets (Score:2)
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and lots of piping I've found you need to pick things up whenever possible.

Man ball. Formerly, somebody else.

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December 12th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | http://www.youtube.com/watch? (Score:2)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krYlX59Hygk&feature=youtu.be

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | The bowl is swirling counterclockwise (Score:3 Normal)
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Doesn't that mean the school is in the Southern Hemisphere? Or is it the other way 'round in reverse?

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
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December 12th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | Let's have Bart make a few (Score:5 Normal)
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Let's have Bart make a few calls to find out.  

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | It looks more like something (Score:4 Normal)
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It looks more like something you would see on TV while watching Reading Rainbow after you just ate a handful of mushrooms.

 

#nevertriedit

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 PM | I hate when that happens. (Score:1)
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I hate when that happens.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | What exactly was wrong with this logo??? (Score:5 Normal)
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December 12th, 2012 at 3:50 PM | Cal vs UC (Score:5 Normal)
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The CAL logo is used only by UC Berkeley's athletics department. Both the old seal and new toilet bowl logos in the OP's post are University-of-California-wide, meaning all 8 campuses, and aren't sports-related.

 

As a current Cal student, I went to sign the petition against the new logo at change.org and discovered that 47,000 people had already signed it. The new logo is a failure of truly epic proportions.

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:12 PM | Oh, I thought this was in (Score:4 Normal)
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Oh, I thought this was in regards to Berkeley itself. Regardless, I have signed the petition as well, the new logo is terrible. 

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | Seconded (Score:2 Normal)
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Student at UC Davis here. I second this.

Are non-students allowed to sign the petition as well? If so, please, MgoCrew, help us.

/Insert "Noooooo!" picture here

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:45 PM | This goes outside of the (Score:5 Normal)
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This goes outside of the crazy branding thing. Schools doing crazy things for sports logos is a misguided trend. This is the first I am aware of schools doing this crazy stuff with the actual school seal. Congrats on Cal taking bad design taste to a new dimension.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | To me... (Score:1)
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it looks like something that a medieval knight would wear on the front of his armor during a joust.  So I guess it is pretty cool....

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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MGoBlog | email 

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December 15th, 2012 at 4:59 PM | What's wrong with replacing a deteriorating masterpiece (Score:1)
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with something that I could paint?

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December 15th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | the SNL skit on this is so classic... (Score:2 Normal)
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the SNL skit on this is so classic...

"That's right. It's an off-tackle play. It's coming right over you. And there's not a thing you can do about it."

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | KCRW In Los Angeles... (Score:4 Normal)
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...posted some select tweets on the subject. I tend to like this one:

"I think my internet connection is down because it looks like the #UCLogo is still loading #sayitaintso #bringbacktheoldUClogo.”"

To me, it looks like the last corn chip in the bag, which is probably what inspired the intern who I would imagine designed this one. 

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | Another random OT since I (Score:4 Normal)
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Another random OT since I have you here.  I have this utility pole kind of near my house that has been lying on the grass strip between the street and sidewalk for over a year (and it is killing the grass).  Do I call the city or DTE?  

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | Probably Us... (Score:5 Normal)
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I would call it into us...800-477-4747. If it has been a year or so, then it may very well have been for something like a maintenance job that was either lessened in scope or cancelled altogether (or put off because of everyone's friend - the budget). It might get sent to my group for followup to confirm that it isn't part of something that is eventually supposed to happen. If you get no action, let me know somewhere (here, Twitter, etc...) and I know someone at the pole yard who can take care of it.  

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:05 PM | Thanks and a followup (Score:4 Normal)
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Do the guys at the pole buy lightly used ones (say ~1 year old and just sat on grass) and what do they pay?  Gotta fund these oversea trips somehow.  

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:08 PM | Buying Poles... (Score:4 Normal)
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Depending on the size, we pay something on the order of $400-$600 per pole ourselves, and one year - for what we expect as a useful life - leads to negligible decpreciation. That might be a good start for the ensuing negotiation. It isn't common now, but farmers used to buy the poles that we replaced from us and make fences from them back in the day - definitely do not recommend burning them as firewood, of course. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:16 PM | My wife is of the view it (Score:5 Normal)
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My wife is of the view it would be hilarious to cut say eighteen inches off the top and when they finally do set it up, see long it takes them figure out why is shorter.  While I agree that might be funny, the part where AAPD drops by to ask me what I've been doing with my power tools at 1 am would be a lot less funny.  

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | I Can Relate... (Score:4 Normal)
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I can relate to the last part - as someone who once designed a job that was done off-hours and without the proper permitting with regard to Ann Arbor's noise ordnance (actually had to appear in court  for that one, represented by the company, of course), I can say without hesitation that the police would not find it amusing. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

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December 12th, 2012 at 5:23 PM | This hijacking has so much (Score:5 Normal)
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This hijacking has so much win in it.  Its a serious discussion about something that probably has never been discussed in MGoHistory.  Tremendous!

 

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

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December 15th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | the Cal "Toilet Bowl of Death" (Score:1)
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"Fear the Toilet Bowl" would be intimidating cheer to shout at opposing fans.  Mostly the really drunk ones.

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December 12th, 2012 at 3:57 PM | Ucal (Score:5 Normal)
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You are officially the first person to ever call that school "UCal"

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | Before clicking on the (Score:2 Normal)
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Before clicking on the thread, I was trying to figure out what school he was talking about.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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December 12th, 2012 at 7:15 PM | As pointed out, he is not (Score:1)
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As pointed out, he is not talking about 1 school, but the Cal system of U. (heh).

UC Davis

UC Berkeley

UC LA

UC Santa Cruz

and uhhh others

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December 12th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | UC San Diego UC Irvine UC (Score:2 Normal)
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UC San Diego

UC Irvine

UC Merced

UC Riverside

UC SF

UC Santa Barbara

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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December 15th, 2012 at 5:07 PM | thanks for pointing out the technicality (Score:1)
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December 12th, 2012 at 4:04 PM | it's contagious (Score:2 Normal)
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December 12th, 2012 at 4:08 PM | We know where they got the design firm recommendation from. (Score:4 Normal)
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"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 13th, 2012 at 5:33 AM | B2G (c)? (Score:3 Normal)
ScottGoBlue
Joined: 06/02/2009
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The real question is: do Jim Delany and Co have "B2G" copyrighted yet?  

With the trend towards super-sizing conferences, I suspect he's gonna need it in the near future.

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December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 AM | Sad statement about the trends (Score:2)
M-Wolverine
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I saw that as first "26" teams, not "20".

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:12 PM | I've seen worse (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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I've seen worse

 

 

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December 12th, 2012 at 8:19 PM | I'm choosing to believe that (Score:4 Normal)
The King In Yellow
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I'm choosing to believe that is a man staring at a basketball on his knee. 

Oprah's Minge.

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:35 AM | Holy Cats.  That is... well. (Score:2)
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Holy Cats.  That is... well.  Simultanously awful and wonderful.

 

Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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December 12th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | The logo isn't loading. Just (Score:4 Funny)
KevbosLastingLessons
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The logo isn't loading. Just a weird blue shape with a yellow "loading" signal.

Final Four Thoughts!

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December 12th, 2012 at 4:35 PM | for what it is worth (Score:5 Normal)
TrppWlbrnID
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the seal is changing, but it is a more of a refinement:

they are not just getting rid of it.

i think that we all get riled up here because we see something at the top of the page that is admittedly ugly and think of cal's logo or UCLA or something, but this is a pretty amazingly complex organziation that needs to have some sort of unifying graphical element, and while i personally think that the wierd U shape with the C gradient is a swing and miss, it is not like the original thing they are covering up was really inventive. there is a difference between a wordmark, a logo and a seal. this logo needs to work on a million different applications and sizes and colors to act as a shorthand, visual umbrella for the organization.

 

there is a video here that explains it a bit.

http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/ic_uc_we_all_c_for_california.php

2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
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