OT: U of North Dakota releases official rejected nicknames list....

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

If you aren't a hockey fan, the North Dakota Fighting Sioux have been without a nickname since they were forced to drop the Fighting Sioux name back in 2012-13.

They're just simply known as "North Dakota".

The University of North Dakota in an OFFICIAL DOCUMENT released a list of every rejected suggested nickname.

Many of them are vulgar and it's unbelievable that the university would release them. To top it off, people put the reason for suggesting the nickname!

My personal favorite suggestions for UND's new nickname-

  • Flaming Sex Panthers
  • Big dick north dakotans
  • Dicklickers
  • Bush did 911
  • asrffdsaasdffdsaasdffdsaa

http://und.edu/nickname/non-consideration-list.pdf

SCS100

May 4th, 2015 at 11:15 PM ^

 
"Abominable snowmen" is on the not considered list, but "abdominal snowmen" is on the considered list with the reasoning "because fuck it why not, it's basically the north pole there"
 
Solid spellchecking, NoDak.

ThadMattasagoblin

May 4th, 2015 at 11:15 PM ^

I always thought college nicknames were more about supporting your local heritage than anything. Wolverines, buckeyes, gators, volunteers, sooners, longhorns, nittany lions, gophers, badgers, hawkeyes, hoosiers, golden bears, all have connontations to their local and state nicknames. 

MichiganMAN47

May 5th, 2015 at 1:13 AM ^

To play devil's advocate I'm not sure why this is offensive.

Mascots are intended to be fierce, difficult to defeat, and respected.

To me, the idea of naming the mascot the Fighting Sioux is a sign of respect. They were tough to defeat, earned the respect of their opponents, etc. It doesn't portray the Sioux in a negative light.





maizerayz

May 5th, 2015 at 3:35 AM ^

The Sioux were also almost wiped out, driven from their lands, and a lot of their descendents live in desparate poverty.

Why doesn't Germany have a team called the Fighting Jews, or Turkey have a team called the Fighting Armenians.

Philmypockets

May 5th, 2015 at 7:37 AM ^

Having two very close friends that attended there you're absolutely incorrect. The Sioux actually wanted them to keep the name. The fight started with a woman who didn't even live or associate with the tribe. Just a crazy activist "fighting for what was right" and being naive. We live in a country that has less freedom than most of Europe now.

aratman

May 5th, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^

Basically treating people the way they want is now some how politics.  Leave politics to, you know, political issues.  Don't say that is why someone might be offended.  I personally think it is an honor, but in the past it was not.  I personally wouldn't be offended by the Alabama I&T Whities, but there is a good chance someone else might be.  Doesn't make them wrong.  

saveferris

May 5th, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^

We live in a country that has less freedom than most of Europe now.
I do love me some grand exaggerations backed up by no facts. Whether UND gets to keep their mascot name or not and the politics behind it impacts your personal freedom not a bit.

Needs

May 5th, 2015 at 11:09 AM ^

Your friends are pretty much telling partially true stories that they want to hear. The Spirit Lake tribal council endorsed the name, the Standing Rock tribal council didn't.  

http://www.indiancountrynews.com/news/mascots/1318-standing-rock-sioux-…

There's certainly no consensus among Indian people about Indian mascots. For example, the Seminole Tribe of Florida endorsed FSU's nickname but the Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma has denounced it. The NCAA has allowed FSU to maintain the name because of the "local support."

My sense from talking with folks reporting and writing about the UND issue is that the fairly overt racism and inequality experienced by many Indian people in the Dakotas, plus Engelstadt's in your face effort to plaster the logo everywhere, plus the fact that he was kind of a Nazi sympathizer*, has led to more opposition. 

 

*On Engelstadt... http://deadspin.com/5256436/deadspin-classic-north-dakotas-nazi-loving-…

DrMantisToboggan

May 5th, 2015 at 8:30 AM ^

Ole Miss Rebels is a great point. Every Native American person I have talked to about the issue and every survey I have read points to most if not all American Indian nicknames being pretty widely supported in their communities (the more cartoonish names are not however, i.e. Chiefs Braves etc), and yet non-native american activists fight these names and don't care that Ole Miss' nickname is basically "People who fought to keep slavery". Wut.



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DrMantisToboggan

May 5th, 2015 at 7:38 AM ^

I don't know the specific case with the Sioux but I think it really varies with the history of each individual tribe. Obviously the Seminoles and Chippewas are supportive of the respective schools using their names. Also the nickname Redskins in the NFL has the support of almost all the Native American population, it's Chiefs that American Indians find more offensive. The most common nickname for high schools on reservations is Redskins.
I think the Sioux have a particularly bad history (not that many tribes don't) so they have never been fond of the way the university used their likeness.



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B1G_Fan

May 5th, 2015 at 3:58 AM ^

Wow, you guys read all that? I got to D's and couldn't look at it anymore. Props to you all, or sympathys whichever is more appropriate.