OT: Tyrann Mathieu and Jordan Jefferson arrested

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Tyrann Mathieu and three other former LSU football players were arrested Thursday on drug-related charges. 

Mathieu and former LSU quarterback Jordan Jefferson were charged with simple possession of marijuana, the Baton Rouge police department said in a release.

 

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TIMMMAAY

October 25th, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^

He really shouldn't have to abstain, provided he can maintain his schoolwork and football time. He should have just been smarter about it. I'd venture a guess that most college football players smoke pot. To think that I could have easily pissed away my future when I was his age, had I been caught is a scary thought to me. I'm just baffled that the kid can be so dumb as to get caught that many times.

Feat of Clay

October 26th, 2012 at 9:58 AM ^

I'd be taking that bet in a heartbeat. 

Never forget that these ARE normal college kids.  They might be talented, they might have been given a scholarship, they might get articles written about them, they might have some sweet job prospects out of school, but they are still normal adolescents.  Their brains develop just like every other human male child's brain develops.  They will still vary along the normal spectrum of cautious vs. foolhardy like other college kids.  Maybe the funnel that leads you to Division I football will narrow that variation a bit (i.e. the most timid-natured kids probably aren't going to be on the team) but still.  NORMAL KIDS with the NORMAL ranges of teenage/young adult behavior.   Some of them are dumbasses, sure.  But let's not put them on an abnormal pedestal of expectations.

 

 

justingoblue

October 25th, 2012 at 10:06 PM ^

So I don't smoke weed or get myself in situations where I'm around harder stuff. It's really not that difficult.

I'm not saying I believe it should be the same for the NFL, or that "normal college kids" don't smoke a lot and that some even do hard drugs, but he knew the situation he was in. I don't really see how the NFL and LSU Football are especially draconian in all this.

Blazefire

October 25th, 2012 at 10:50 PM ^

"Normal college kids" experiment. Sure. But then they get wise and stop, or don't get wise, and get booted out of school. How is this any different, at all?

I had friends that did a little weed once, stopped, and were fine. I also had friends that didn't stop, got caught, and were kicked out of school. That's how it works.

Buck Killer

October 25th, 2012 at 11:36 PM ^

Yeah, I am sure they should be held to the same standard as the nerd in a business management minor working at a bar to pay for school. Life isn't fair, and if you get an amazing opportunity like this asshat you man up.

JeepinBen

October 26th, 2012 at 11:12 AM ^

Do you know any normal college kids that got caught and arrested multiple times for drugs? Did they continue doing drugs? And get caught again?

I've never smoked, plenty of friends had. Whether you agree with it or not it's illegal and therefore there are consequences.

I won't say that I've never broken the law, but I've never been caught breaking the law either. He has. He continues to do it, and thus must deal with the consequences.  

goblueram

October 25th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^

Dumb move on his part.  Know that this is breaking the rules, it is stupid as such a high profile athlete.  The other issue is that marijuana being illegal is a joke.  Not only is it harmless, but, more importantly, people should have the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies.

JBE

October 26th, 2012 at 1:49 AM ^

Legalize Heroin! I like drugs, but I don't think the "I should be able to do what I want with my body argument," is great when it comes to really addictive substances, which of course weed is not, but it becomes a slippery slope. So Outlaw Cigarettes!

goblueram

October 26th, 2012 at 11:22 AM ^

I understand your perspective, but will still disagree.  I would never touch heroin, and it is not a rational or moral decision for an individual.  The law, though, is not supposed to enforce individual people's morals, it is intended to protect individual rights.  

JBE

October 26th, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^

And to protect the functioning of society as a whole, and the safety of people within that society. Can't have sixteen year olds getting hooked on smack because it's legal now due to a "Don't tell me what I can and can't put in my body" statute. That's not good for anybody, and has wide ranging consequences for many different levels of society. Personal freedom doesn't seem to work well with addictive substances because the substance itself takes away that freedom to a certain degree. You may not touch certain drugs, but there are many people who will, whether it be lack of education about the substance, societal influence, or some other circumstance. And once you've touched certain drugs a couple times, it can be over. Drugs are a different animal that way. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with the moral freedom thing.

goblueram

October 26th, 2012 at 1:05 PM ^

I understand that a goal is to protect "society as a whole".  Society is a collection of individuals, who all have a right to their own lives.  As long as I don't intrude on your rights, society will be functioning properly.  If you are referring to violence and crime as a result of drug abuse, the clear reason for that is the actual enforcement of the war on drugs.  End that war, and market for drugs will be just like any other product, and violent crimes won't result.

Also, I didn't neg you for the record.  I appreciate you expressing a viewpoint.  

BlueinLansing

October 25th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^

the NFL just doesn't care if you smoke weed.  He'll be drafted, just not as high (haha) as before.  He'll make money and be able to smoke all the good weed he can buy.

 

His LSU days are probably over, he could go FCS but all he really has to do is keep himself in football shape, do well in the combines and he'll be drafted.

WolvinLA2

October 26th, 2012 at 7:01 PM ^

Do we know that though?  He was a special teams sensation, sure, but was he really that great of a DB that he's a sure-fire draft pick?  He had all the hype, but in reality he was the second or third best DB on his team. 

Now he's a guy who took a year off from football, lacks ideal NFL size, and has repeated off the field issues.  I'm not about to bet that he won't get drafted, but I wouldn't bet that he does either.  If he gets drafted at all, it won't be very high.

Finance-PhD

October 26th, 2012 at 6:00 AM ^

He will be another Pac Man Jones in the NFL if he makes it. Able to make a few great plays that get on highlight reels but easy to burn with regular plays.

You guys did notice that in January UA AJ McCarron purposefully threw to whatever receiver he was covering. That was not a mistake.

bronxblue

October 26th, 2012 at 11:39 AM ^

I am amazed that he fell this far, this fast.  Usually teams find a way to keep these guys out of trouble at least until they graduate.  For a guy to go from Heisman contender to jail in less than a year is amazing and incredibly sad.

WolvinLA2

October 26th, 2012 at 6:56 PM ^

You know what blows me away?  The amount of people who get caught smoking weed.  And I'm not some anti-weed guy either, I love me some bud.  But for some reason, when I do it, I don't decide to go out, climbing fences and getting into trouble.  Can't Matthieu get a back of Doritos and either a video game or a Planet Earth blu-ray and call it good?  In all of my pot smoking days, I never knew anyone who got caught. 

I understand getting caught driving drunk, not that I condone it, but I understand.  Most people like to drink at places away from their homes, and then they need to get home.  But smoking weed?  Meth causes you to do stuff worthy of getting the cops called.  Weed makes you giggle and eat, that's about it.