Good luck recruiting Ohio now.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Good luck recruiting Ohio now.
Not surprised one bit.
Same dude who left recruits at a restauraunt after getting this job. He's a Lane Kiffin type douche.
what is that story? id like to hear that one out of curiousity
Was reported that e was out for dinner with a recruit (and family I believe) and he was in the middle of telling them how he was staying and selling the program when he got up to "use the washroom" and never returned. Reports then hit the web that he was taking Cincinnati job.
It wasn't just him and one recruit. It was the whole staff and several recruits.
While on dinner with some kids he was recruiting for Texas Tech, he got up to "go to the bathroom." In that time was he was told he had been offered the job at Cincy, and he left the restaurant without saying anything to the recruits.
The waitress brought our food out, and we thought [Tuberville] went to the bathroom, but he never game back to dinner...Then the next thing I know, the next day, he made an announcement that he's going to Cincinnati.
-Devonte Danzey, offensive line recruit [LINK]
EDIT: Yeah, my posting is slower than other people's. What of it?!
Here watch this video and it will explain everything.
Weird. I feel like it's usually the opposite: new coach has to scramble to hold on to as many commits as possible. Not too often you see a guy chase recruits off.
Dirt bag or not, it's just a weird thing for a new coach to do.
I do not understand why a coach would do this. How hard is it to have the balls to tell a high school kid that you are looking at someone else? In this situation where he's a new coach, it would be understandable for him to call people who committed to the previous staff and left them know why he is looking at giving a scholarship to another kid.
He probably tells his players about how he expects them to act like men too. Just another case of "Do as I say, not as I do."
If I had a son who was a D1 recruit, I would not let him go play for this guy.
to return to the dinner table and say that something has come up--not. Only a serious pr*ck would do it.
Adrian Witty now!
Recruits renege on commitments and change their mind all the time. Why shouldn't a school be allowed to do the same (presuming no LOI has been signed)?
the issue isn't the reneging....although classless. It is the not-telling them that is especially gutless and cowardly.
Sort of like Miles letting that kid move into his dorm room, then leaving him a letter in his dorm mail box that basically said, "Pay your own tuition ASAP or GTFO."
No one is saying he isn't allowed to do that... It's just an exceptionally classless thing to do.
Without telling them their scholarship has been revoked?
Huh, I had no idea that police officers had the authority to revoke diplomatic immunity. Learn something new every day, I guess.
He just has to leave his badge behind and use his personal truck to tear down a stilt house.
It's called professionalism. It's called communication. Two things Tubberville lacks. I'd be outraged too if I were the player or his parents. Tubberville just really played god with these kids. It's total BS
...tack on the fact that recruits are 17/18 yr old kids. They change their minds, they're making decisions to decide the course of their adult lives, the school they attend. They have parents, friends, teachers and other players who have influence on what they choose to do and where they decide to go. For a coach, it should not be so dynamic. He also should be expected to act like an adult. A Man.
I'M A MAN! I'M 40!!
Because with few exceptions the school doesn't want a kid verbally committed to keep talking to other schools, so many of these kids have been off the radar for months since they committed. The school, on the other hand, can keep recruiting kids all along. So Cincy has been recruiting kids to replace these guys for a solid month without telling said verbal commits that their spots are no longer available. And more generally, an athlete has far less leverage and power in the relationship between himself and the school; the school can almost always find a competent replacement, but the athlete usually has to go through the process all over again.
What a dickless, weasel of a man.
The man has no dick.
No, when you bitch slap a graduate assistant on national television you probably just suck.
This seems so out of character for the guy....
It could have happened to any of their athletes.
I personally think the AD should tear up his contract on live tv if it happened that way.
when your team is sitting at 91st in FBS recruiting, and you only have 10 commits.
Hey, seniorbearcat, rather than copy and paste an entire article into a giant comment, how's about you just post the link to the article?
(I'm purposely posting this down here so that s/he can edit it, if s/he so chooses.)
what a spineless piece of shit.
Do you actually have shit with spines?!? That's fucking disgusting, man... and most likely really painful.
So, apparently, he left a dinner table in Lubbock in December in the middle of a dinner with Texas A&M recruits without saying anything to anyone, took the Cincinnati job (possibly through non-verbal means), and hasn't talked to anyone since except through representatives. What a precedent for open, honest communication he is setting in his regime - mainly, that there shall be no such thing.
I commend the Massillon coach for his statement - I am not sure how exactly coaching transitions work, but surely one could make the effort when entering into the position of talking to current recruits, introducing oneself and give them a general sense of what one is about and the philosophy and ask them if they would still like to be part of the program, but to say nothing and summarily pull their offers with mere weeks to NSD is an awful thing to do and says a lot (all of it negative) about how the program shall be managed.
when he was the head coach of Texas Tech?
Just keeps getting shadier and shadier!
Definitely my fail. Apologies to the board.
Part of me wanted to say, "See, this is what happens when Tommy doesn't talk to anyone - we even forget where he's been..."
...we are talking about Lubbock in December. I'd high tail it out of there too the first chance I got.
If I had a rubber hose I would beat you...
Unfortunately, I don't think kidnapping Tubberville and dragging him to a spurned recruit's house would change his mind.
BOOM! Christmas Vacation-ed.
Tubberville is coaching at Cincy and Belima goes to Arkansas.
I guess it shouldn't be that suprisng given that Boise St may be joining the Big East and Maryland and Rutgers are joining the B1G.
Why would he do that? They only have 12 commits now. Can't imagine him suddenly finding 13 kids in under 2 months worth burning bridges over. What a fucking douche.
It would be dickish to "manage" the roster over the next year for recruiting flexibility, but it seems dumb &dickish with 4 weeks until NSD.
Maybe he honed his recruiting craft at Auburn ...
...very bad idea for an Ohio coach.
No kidding - that's a bigtime HS program.
I thought what kind of dumb ass would do that. But then I realized the guy was a coach in the sec for 15 years. The question answered itself.
But this is total horse shit. Where is your honor as a man? You dont have the sack to call a kid? So weak. Another example of why no matter how many questionable calls we make internally with game plan etc, character really matters.
I used to feel bad for this guy after the Auburn AD went behind his back to interview Bobby Petrino while Tubbervile was still their head coach. I don't feel so bad for him anymore.
He certainly hurt himself in Ohio especially at a power house like Massillon!
The stupid thing, there is an easy and classy way to handle this. Just tell the kid "Of course we'll honor the scholarship. Also I'm introducing a new system and here are some ideas I had on how you can prepare for it." Said ideas can be a gentle nudge to convey "The odds of you getting playing time in this system are near zero." Then the kids can move on to new landing spot and no one's feelings are hurt.
Just get that message out within a week of your hire so the kids have time to reopen recruitment.
Why doesn't Butch Jones Recruit these kids to Tennessee? He was the previous coach who recruited them, am I wrong? So why not give them a ring and say hey, "I know I recruited you for Cincy, but since [insert "Jack" and "ass" here] revoked your scholarships, I will honor them" as he was interested in them enough to play for him at UC, why not join at UT?
But just because Butch recruited them for Cincinnati doesn't mean he has to recruit them for, what is supposed to be an upgrade in team and conference, in Tenneesse. Without looking at Tennessee's current recruiting class, I would believe that he'll be looking at his recruits first at Tenneesse, but if he's desperate you never know!
I just figure, those were guys you wanted in your system at UC, they could definitely help, if nothing else, in establishing a pipeline from Massilion... Which is not a bad school to pull from Ohia into Tennessee... Just a thought on what I would do if I were him, but I'm not so it's a moot point
Dude, out of all the Ohio H.S football programs to piss off, you chose Massillon!?
Still, Tuberville is getting quite a few new commits into Cincy since he was hired.
No kidding Markusr. I live just a bit north of Massilon and pissing off their coaching staff is NOT a good idea for anybody wanting to recruit in Northern Ohio. Good luck to him.
He coached at Auburn, for one. He physically assaulted an assistant coach, he bailed on recruits at a dinner like a coward, and now this...the actions of a small man. As a young coach he is everything I never want to be. I hope someone puts up 50 on him, and may fate deal him a terrible hand. I hate TT.
I think he's unfairly ripped for that - he may/likely received the offer call during the meal. If he continues, it's a professional, and possible NCAA violation. If he doesn't go and doesn't get the offer, he blows recruiting opportunity. It was a lose-lose
Remember, good ol' Tommy doesn't just treat his recruits and players like crap. He makes sure that he treats his assistants the same way as the link below will show.
What a lowlife, classless POS.
What do they have 9 or 10 in their intergalactic class? Go get en Marky.
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Same thing happened to my cousin at Indiana when they hired their new coach 2 years ago. He pulled some of the recruits schollies and then their A.D. made him honor the recruit's schollies but not a 1 of the recruits stayed. So now my cousin plays for Ball State now and was their highest recruit 2 yrs ago. Why would you want to play for someone that doesnt want you in the first place. Good luck to the Cincinnati recruits, things will work out for them.
I've already checked the Cincin recruiting class, we don't want any of their players. (And not because they're not good, because there best players are all JuCo transfers).
Yup, I'm THAT guy.