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OT: Troy Smith released from Steelers (surprise, surprise)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/8095323/pittsburgh-steelers-release-former-heisman-winner-troy-smith 

It seems the Heisman curse continues to plague college football's so called "best" players. Troy Smith in my opinion was the most overrated quarter back during his years at Ohio State. The WRs he had to work with including Beanie Wells at RB is what made him look awesome. The National Championship game against Meyer and the Gators showed how overrated he was. Dominated completely and only completed 4 out of 35 passes in the 2nd half to lose 41-14. Watching the Buckeyes getting their asses kicked in that game pissed me off at the loss we took in 2006 so bad. I will go to my grave always believing we should never of lost that game. Would of been amazing to go to the national title game that year. I honestly believe we would of given Florida a game had we of won in 2006. We always seem to do well against the SEC. I was honestly worried about going into the Rose Bowl cause our record against USC is not that great. Smith was never going to be good in the NFL and his NFL resume is proof. He did nothing in the NFL.

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June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 PM | He was a damn good player in (Score:5 Normal)
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He was a damn good player in college, and I hope he lands on another team. 

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:15 AM | Don't (Score:2)
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forget Rookie of the year Cam Newton... a QB... or Charles Woodson.. he turned out pretty OK.

I think people forget that the Heisman means you had one badass season in college and that you were at least a junior when you did it. That usually requires a surrounding cast and a deep offensive line. 

Incidentally, Heisman winners usually go extremely early in the draft, which means they end up on the shittiest teams. You have to be quite the player to make an impact in that scenario.,

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June 25th, 2012 at 11:52 PM | What have you done? (Score:5 Normal)
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June 25th, 2012 at 11:54 PM | Not surpised.  Buckeye QBs (Score:5 Normal)
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Not surpised.  Buckeye QBs have a bad track record in the NFL.  I can't even remember the last time they produced an NFL starter at QB.     

Blame No One - Expect Nothing - Do Something

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June 26th, 2012 at 6:29 AM | Shane Falco (Score:5 Normal)
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 He started rough but led an underdog of a team past Dallas in a playoff game. Only one that comes to mind.

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:12 AM | Mike Tomczak. (Score:2)
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(Da)Bears, Steelers. 

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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June 26th, 2012 at 7:22 AM | Johnny Utah (Score:2)
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Was amazing til he destroyed his knee in the Rose Bowl. Wonder what he has been up to...

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:27 AM | I hear (Score:5 Normal)
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he's been surfing with Shane Falco.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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June 26th, 2012 at 10:04 AM | Krenzel (Score:2)
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Craig Krenzel started a couple games. I still agree that ohio has not had the best track record for QBs.

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June 26th, 2012 at 10:30 AM | Krenzel started 5 games, (Score:2)
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Krenzel started 5 games, completed 46.5% of his passes, and had a 1:2 TD-to-INT ratio.

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June 26th, 2012 at 2:50 PM | Playing QB for Ohio State (Score:2)
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Has absolutely nothing to do with why OSU has not had any good NFL QBs.  Posiion X from school Y = NFL bust makes absolutely no sense.

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June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 PM | osu beat us fair and square (Score:4 Normal)
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osu beat us fair and square tht game and smith did whatever he wanted (just as he did in 04 and 05 against us). if it wasnt for his fumbles in 2nd half it wldve been a rout. i hate ohio as much as anyone but lets be honest that on that night they were the better team and smith was the definition of a michigan killer.

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:03 AM | He did and I agree with that to a certain extent (Score:1 Normal)
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Crable's penalty late in the game is what irks me the most about that loss but I knew he would never be able to do what he did in college in the NFL. The hype around him is what pissed me off the most. I live in Columbus and that's the only name you heard from 2004 to 2006 it drove me nuts. I knew he would tank in the pros. Just like Archie Griffin. Was amazing in college only to realize he wasn't good enough to play pro.

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June 26th, 2012 at 2:31 AM | Crable's penalty (Score:-1 Normal)
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That penalty did cost us plenty! But Jim Herrmann is the reason that we lost that game. Ohio came out in a set that we couldn't cover with a regular nickle package. We were too stubborn to make any changes until the second half. Giving up 28 first half points was the game. They were too good to be shut down completely, but the lack of adjustment was our undoing.

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June 26th, 2012 at 5:25 AM | yea...damn herman coaching us (Score:5 Normal)
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yea...damn herman coaching us from the giants lockerroom for that game. maybe ron english should have made some kind of adjustment as the DC of the 2006 team.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:31 PM | After Jamar Adams (or (Score:2 Normal)
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After Jamar Adams (or Barringer, can't remember which) got hurt in the first quarter, we were always going to be screwed in the secondary. The next guy up was Johnny Sears, who never proved ready for game play. Secondary depth was the one glaring flaw in that otherwise amazing defense. Blame the failure to get Justin King or Jai Eugene or just another couple corners in the years previous. It was a good move by Tressel to recognize and take advantage of a flaw. But there was really very little the coaches could have done given the injury situation.

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:14 AM | Archie Griffin (Score:2)
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Not defending him but he did go to the Saints, that would end any RB's carrier.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | Archie Griffin played for (Score:1)
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the Bengals

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:52 PM | DOOH! (Score:2)
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Must of had Archie Manning on the brain.

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June 26th, 2012 at 3:15 PM | Crable's penalty (Score:0 Trolling)
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Why would Crable's penalty irk you?  That was probably the only thing that saved us from going to one of those crappy BCS Championship games instead of the Rose Bowl against old nemesis USC.  Any true Michigan Man would understand that Crable was a true hero that day.

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June 26th, 2012 at 10:32 AM | Yeah, if you consider changing your turf (Score:1)
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the week before fair and square.

Well, they beat us anyway and the rest is history.

I actually think we would have done better against USC if we had been knocked from #2 the Sunday after the Ohio game. USC had screwed their own pooch weeks before, were laying in the weeds, and had everything to gain from proving themselves in a Rose Bowl they were glad to be in. We on the other hand limped in pissed off at being in the also ran bowl with a coaching staff in some sort of suspended animation.

I also think we were better set up to take on Florida, however Ohio rippped a gaping whole in our defense that Florida was sure to take notice of.

Anyway, what a great season only to end in total dispair.

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June 26th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | The turf is the underrated (Score:1)
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The turf is the underrated factor in that game, particularly given what happened to OSU's OTs against Florida. I have a hard time believing that those tackles that played that poorly on a fast track would have held up as well as they did against Woodley and Crable without the torn up turf.

Both teams... yadda, yadda, yadda, but I think it definitely hurt us more than them.

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | I thought the last year showed us (Score:1 Flamebait)
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That there wasn't much "fair and square" going on in Columbus for many, many years...

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June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 PM | Decisions, decisions. (Score:5 Normal)
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Should I be happy as a Michigan fan that Troy Smith got cut again, or sad as a Browns fan that the Steelers are smart enough to cut him?

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:04 AM | I (obviously) never liked (Score:5 Normal)
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I (obviously) never liked Smith in college and also thought he was grossly overrated. But who ever said a Heisman trophy equates to NFL success? It's a trophy that for the most part means for one year, you were the most outstanding/exciting player on a team that was in the title picture. Nowhere on the trophy does it say "Most likely to succeed" and you'd also probably be hard pressed to find a rational Ohio fan (I could end this sentence here...) who truly thought Smith had a true shot at becoming something special in the NFL. In other words, this isn't Troy's first time being released and this is far from being threadworthy.

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June 26th, 2012 at 2:27 AM | I agree with you for the most (Score:5 Normal)
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I agree with you for the most part except for the Heisman.  It's supposed to go to the most outstanding player in college football.  Period.  I think we can all agree though that it's turned into nothing more than a popularity contest, and if you aren't a RB, WR, or QB, you can forget about winning it. 

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June 26th, 2012 at 10:17 AM | You mean (Score:2)
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RB, QB, or WR that also returns kickoffs/punts. Only two WRs have ever won the award and both also returned kicks.

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:09 AM | Florida got pretty lucky that (Score:5 Normal)
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Florida got pretty lucky that Ted Ginn got hurt. Losing him really screwed over OSU, and threw their entire offense in a funk. Combine that with a hole at LT and it's no wonder Smith did so poorly in the game

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:20 AM | True, but he wasn't worth 27 (Score:2)
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True, but he wasn't worth 27 points. Smith had two defensive ends on top of him about one second after the snap for 60 minutes.

He had a really impressive Senior year and tore Michigan apart for three seasons.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:40 AM | Oh for sure, Florida was (Score:2)
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Oh for sure, Florida was winning either way, but with Ginn it would have been closer

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June 26th, 2012 at 10:40 AM | Yeah, too bad Ohio State (Score:4 Normal)
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Yeah, too bad Ohio State knocked their own best player out of the game by celebrating too excessively in the end zone after his TD.  LOL LOL LOL.  DERP DERP DERP.

 

 

 

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:15 AM | He was a 5th round pick.  I (Score:3 Normal)
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He was a 5th round pick.  I would wager to say he has (is) lasted much longer than the average 5th round pick in the NFL.

Although I'm not sure how his lack of performance in the NFL in any way is a reflexion of how overrated he was as a college football QB.  Kellen Moore didn't even get drafted, and he is one of the most accurate passers in college football history. 

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:26 AM | No soup for you! (Score:5 Normal)
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I normally wouldn't say anything, but you made the same mistake four times. It's would have, not would of. 

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:39 AM | Thank you!!!!!!!!! (Score:3 Normal)
Mlaw2010
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Thank you!!!!!!!!!

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:10 AM | Even the slang version shows (Score:2)
RowoneEndzone
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Even the slang version shows you the proper way.  Woulda = Would HaVE

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:38 AM | I couldn't help (Score:2)
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but notice that too.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:51 AM | give the kid a break (Score:2)
oriental andrew
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he's from ohio  =P

For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
 

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:34 AM | Another ohio heisman winner (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Wolverine Devotee
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Another ohio heisman winner NFL BUST.



troy smith, you take your golden handshakes and sit your candy ass over with your fellow bust, eddie george.

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June 26th, 2012 at 12:52 AM | Sarcasm? (Score:5 Normal)
SteveE
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Eddie George was the rookie of the year in '96 and made 4 straight pro bowls from '97-'00. He ended his career with 78 total touchdowns. That's not a bust.

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June 26th, 2012 at 8:37 AM | Awesome yards per carry too! (Score:2)
Greg McMurtry
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3.6!

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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June 26th, 2012 at 11:03 AM | But still not a bust with 7 (Score:1)
MDave
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But still not a bust with 7 of 9 years over the 1000 yard mark and over 10,000 yards for his career.  He was a workhorse RB.

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." - John Wooden

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June 26th, 2012 at 1:05 AM | Troy Smith was a wonderful (Score:2 Normal)
JimBobTressel
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Troy Smith was a wonderful college QB, he had exactly one blemish on an otherwise spectacular career. Far and away Tressel's best quarterback, and he did it despite being an afterthought of a recruit.

Not everyone succeeds in the NFL. so what? Pat White had a mediocre nfl career, but was a legend at WVU.

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June 26th, 2012 at 1:48 AM | Smith is pretty athletic, he (Score:2)
CRex
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Smith is pretty athletic, he likely would have had a better career if he's converted over to another posistion in the NFL.  As it stands though he'll find work in the UFL or something.   

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:44 AM | Interesting thought, CRex (Score:1)
Tater
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The new version of the USFL, coming in 2013, plans to play mostly in college towns that don't have NFL teams.  Columbus would be a natural.  Smith was never going to succeed in a conventional NFL offense anyway, but I'm sure there are options for him.  He probably wouldn't be a bad hire by the networks, either.  

 

 

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 2:13 AM | I went to a Reds game once (Score:2)
M Fanfare
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I went to a Reds game once and saw a guy with Troy Smith's name tattooed on his inner wrist.

I guess there's nothing quite like getting a tattoo of a man's name who you've never met.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:21 AM | I'd hate to see who's name is (Score:2 Normal)
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I'd hate to see who's name is on his ass

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

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June 26th, 2012 at 2:49 AM | Troy Smith was Released... (Score:2)
thenasr
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"Don't Provoke the Hoke!"

 

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June 26th, 2012 at 6:13 AM | Give credit where credit is (Score:2 Normal)
Webber's Pimp
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Give credit where credit is due. The guy was a great college QB> he certainly kicked our ass...

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June 26th, 2012 at 7:10 AM | Troy Smith (Score:5 Normal)
LSAClassOf2000
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To be fair, Troy Smith was a pretty decorated college player beyond the Heisman as well, including being the Fiesta Bowl MVP in 2006, a consensus All-American, AP Player of the year and I believe he won the Walter Camp award once too. As others mentioned, he also handled us well  enough too. If he was overrated in college, a lot of people evidently missed it or were watching another Troy Smith.

He may not be starter material in the NFL, but I don't doubt that he will spark enough interest to perhaps find work elsewhere, even if in another league. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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June 26th, 2012 at 9:09 AM | He, more than others... (Score:3 Normal)
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...solidified Ohio's dominance over us during that period, mostly because we had pretty damn good teams that were always a couple of playmakers short. He was that playmaker that for some goddamned reason we never schemed well for. Though he was hardly a worldbeater as a passer and an elusive but not devastating runner, he always had a scramble or pass in his pocket that was a difference maker. I respect that and curse him to the 7th Ring of Hell all the same.

"Godfather III? Never heard of it."

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