is doing pretty well.
OT: Trent Richardson traded to Colts
Brian Hoyer starting over Campbell as well.
Just picked up the Vikings D for this week in fantasy. Thanks Cleveland
I need to do that. I don't feel like starting the Bengals vs the Packers.
In all seriousness, 8 points per game seemed like an awfully high average to constitute a legit tanking of the season.
Brownies gonna Brown
I hope you're not a Lions fan.
Brian of Ohio?
They draft a litany of terrible QBs including Brady Quinn, decide to start a former MSU QB, AND to add insult to injury, trade away their best player. I've suffered enough. I'm so done.
But they let their really good kicker go to San Fran too.
They realized you don't build around a rb in thus league and decided to cash in on him when he still had some value. Seems wise to me.
Also makes sense for the colts, who don't need to build around him, but do need weapons to surround luck with.
Cleveland drafts a running back with that pick next year. And another QB with the other first round pick they have...
I'm agreeing with you 100%!
There's really not a concensus top running back, and definitely not one worthy of a top 20 pick. No point drafting a guy at 18 if you think a similar player will be available at 73.
And that running back will be 38 years old.
they will probaby trade both picks to get the #1 pick overall and take him there...
When I first read this, I thought it said Terry Richardson. I wasn't really sure what to make of that.
F the Browns
Browns are stuuuuuuuuupid.
While true the browns are stupid this doesn't make them that way or add to it.
I actually think its a good trade for the browns. Richardson is still young and has a lot of trade value. But his production last year was nothing spectacular, 3.5 yards a carry. Running backs dont last long the way Richardson plays and this is a throwing NFL now. The Browns now have 2 picks in the first three rounds of next years draft which should help, but you never know its the Browns.
and with any other franchise, this makes total sense. But keep in mind that the Browns traded up to get him and then also traded up to draft a 28 yr-old QB who turns out, really is not good.
So anything, really, is possible, including trading down in next year's draft.
Regime changes come and go. Nothing performance-wise ever changes. it must be something in the water there.
You have to understand that the GM in charge now was responsible for giving the green light for Oakland to draft JaMarcus Russel. So, yeah...not very promising.
And personally I think Bridgewater is a system QB and wont translate to the NFL.
Didn't trade up to get Weeden. Did trade up to get TRich, which was Holmgren's guy. If the Browns saw that they clearly made a mistake it moving up for Richardson wouldn't it behoove them to trade him before the rest of the league realized it?
According to my math, that makes 5 in the first 3 rounds. You are WAY off, bud.
My wife went to high school with him. he's a good guy and I'm glad he's leaving that dumpster fire.
Good pick up for the Colts, but they will still lose twice to the Texans this year.
I'm in shock. As a Browns season ticket holder I'm going to write Banner a letter asking for my money back. I bought my seats under false pretenses that they were at least going to TRY and be good this year. I cannot believe this.
I do feel bad for season ticket holders like yourself because this just seems like a massive white flag for the season along with having to endure an MSU QB as the starter....yuck. That said here's the obligatory Browns fan.
Transition year is always a mulligan. Sometimes more deliberately.
As a lifelong Browns fan, it seems the Browns have taken a play out of the Indians playbook (trade great player and get meh return). It just sucks that the front office always tries to get 'their guy' when their guy usually sucks. Can't remember a good QB is Cleveland. Once again, we take a risk on an early first-round QB.
trading for a mediocre starting QB or QB who is more of a backup *cough* Flynn *cough*. You're better off drafting a QB at 1st round than trading for one anyway.
Expecting to see MGrowold in this thread at some point. He always has great insight into Cleveland sports.
Just beat me to it...
Obviously the FO is throwing in the towel. But when April rolls around, the first option has got to be Bridgewater. Clowney would be nice, but doesn't fit our new 3-4 scheme imo, plus our Front 7 is the one bright spot on the team. Rumor is McGahee is coming for physical, and honestly, i don't believe he will be that much of a downgrade for the RB position. Trent has been injury prone he whole career and does too much dancing, instead of hitting the hole.
Browns OL outside of Thomas is meh. Richardson isnt to blame. Heck for a rook he was tied for 5th in the NFL for rushing TDs.
Colts are pretty set on offense now.
it's not just Joe Thomas and everybody else.
Richardson is a supposed "north/south" runner. The problem is he tries to go east/west EVERY play whether the hole is there or not. Until he follows his blocking and reads the holes correctly, he'll be an average running back and will eventually be considered a "bust" given where he was taken.
wait for it.....................Devin Gardner!!!!
Hey, I know he had a bad game last week, but there's no call for wishing that kind of harm on a Michigan athlete.
As much as I hate to say this, I would love to see Henne, Gardner, and Robinson on the same team in the future.
Richardson wasn't doing much for Cleveland, terrible OL or no. I'm OK with throwing away this season if we can hopefully get a decent QB for next year.
0-16. I can feel it.
There's a small part of me that understands the move. Cleveland brings in a new coach that has no loyalty to Richardson, didn't draft him, and obviously wants to make the passing game the focal point of the offense. Also, Richardson has been somewhat injury prone over the past year. His style of play probably doesn't do much for his overall longevity in the game.
Still, when healthy, Richardson might be their most talented player on the offensive side of the ball. I'm surprised they don't ride the season out, see what he can accomplish, and if they're not impressed, deal him after the season.
I guess they want to stockpile on draft picks, but I guess Browns fans should be settling in for another long season. But they should be used to it by now. The Browns have been rebuilding for 15 years. Not sure why that'd stop now.
Oh well, at least Richardson can go play for a winning team now. He and Andrew Luck on the field at the same time is a very scary thought for opposing defensive coordinators.
18 games, 18 games and the dude couldn't get 1 run over 32 yards? Any professional RB can hit a hole. If this guy needs perfect blocking to make an impact, then why do we need you?
The entire league is moving towards a passing offense, and we traded up to do the exact opposite for a guy that has an injury history.
During his rookie year, O.J. Simpson's long run was 32 yards. Ricky Williams's long run as a rookie was 25 yards. Did those guys lack the explosiveness to play in the NFL?
In the NFL, a RB can't just break a long run with shitty blocking like some guys can do in college. If the blocking doesn't get Richardson to the second level, there's not much he can do. When he gets the chance, he looks pretty explosive - for instance, look at the run and the catch in this clip:
What's the tiebreaker for 0-15-1?
Because if your plan is to draft a QB you're going to need that #1 pick, because I don't see the Jags trading it to you since their QBing sucks pretty hard too. And if you want one of the other QBs you might as well win a couple of games, because they'll be available later in the top ten.
First of all: Trent Richardson has been a terrible tailback. This isn't NCAA 2011 - he has averaged 3.5 yards per carry. You know what that ranks among halfbacks who have gotten 200+ carries in the last 18 regular season games? Dead. Fucking. Last.
Oh no! Whoever can they find to run for 3.5 yards per carry? ANYONE.
Even if we assume Richardson has been terrible, NFL tailbacks have a functional shelf-life of roughly 5 years, Richardson is on year 2 of his, and the Browns are abysmal. How much of his useful shelf-life will line up with a competent supporting cast in Cleveland? 1 year? Maybe? So what's the point in keeping him?
The Browns essentially got a mulligan on a TERRIBLE draft pick (set aside the fact he sucks, drafting tailbacks in the first round has roundly been demonstrated a folly unless you're drafting Adrian Peterson or Ladanian Tomlinson - that's why it's virtually never done anymore.
The Colts, on the other hand...god now what they did this for.