OT: Top 5 Worst Bond Villains

Submitted by saveferris on

Encore is running old Bond movies every night at 8:00 throughout March.  Last night as I sat through some of "Live and Let Die", I asked myself if Yaphet Kotto's Dr. Kanaga was the worst Bond villain ever.  After thinking it over, I came to the conclusion that while bad, there have been far worse villains portrayed in the Bond series:

5 - Karl Stromberg (Curd Jurgens, The Spy Who Loved Me) - You know he's bad because he never smiles, won't shake your hand, and speaks in a clipped, monotone manner.  Not a very original protrayal.

4 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Charles Gray, Diamonds Are Forever) - While Blofeld is arguably the greatest Bond villain, Gray's portrayal of him is just flat, lacking the creepiness of Donald Pleasance or the badassedness of Telly Savalas.

3 - Renard (Robert Carlyle, The World is Not Enough) - Preposterous character backstory coupled with zero charisma, Carlyle's Renard is just a boring thug.

2 - Gustav Graves (Toby Stephens, Die Another Day) - As if the Renard backstory wasn't preposterous enough, we have a guy who was born Korean only to be genetically altered to be a preening, sneering Englishman.

1 - Elliot Carver (Jonathan Pryce, Tomorrow Never Dies) - The least threatening of all the Bond villains, Pryce's Elliot Carver is essentially a ridiculous internet tough guy on steroids.

Bond fans - discuss....

michigan24

March 12th, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^

I'd agree with you on all of these except for Blofeld and Stromberg whom I would sub out for Hugo Drax and Zorin. Also, I loved Dr. Kananga's character and would say Live and Let Die is arguably my favorite bond movie.

GoWings2008

March 12th, 2015 at 11:08 AM ^

I wouldn't have Stromberg on the "worst of" list, personally.  I wouldn't put him on the "best of" list either, but I liked his delivery when killing off the assistant who betrayed him and then watched the other two scientists get on the same elevator she did...

If you want to talk about not smiling, Le Chiffre from Casino Royale fills that bill nicely.  Not to mention, the torture method he used toward the end of the movie....very un-Bond like.

Timnotep

March 12th, 2015 at 11:36 AM ^

He certainly wasn't the best Bond villain, but doesn't belong on this list in my opinion. Seriously I doubt anyone would be smiling much if caught in his position.

The only issues I see with him as a Bond villain is that he has more of an air of desperation about him. Also his intimidation factor stems from nothing about him but the organization for which he works. He's not the scary boss of a multinational criminal organization, he's a broker for one.

Sports

March 12th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

Gustav Graves for sure. Followed closely by Elliot Carver. I think Carver is definitely a worse villain than Graves, but Die Another Day was such a terrible film that I can't associate Gustav Graves with anything else...

Avant's Hands

March 12th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^

Not a fan of the Brosnan movies, huh? I agree they got progressively worse after GoldenEye, but the Moore movies have always been the worst to me. I'm wondering how Dominic Greene didn't make the list though. QoS was alright but not good and Greene had nothing at all to offer. At least Graves and Renard were a threat to Bond. Greene could have been replaced by a donkey in a top hat and the movie wouldn't have changed much.

Hardware Sushi

March 12th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^

Agreed, Dominic Greene was a wimp who wasn't even really that powerfu, I mean, that whole secret organization was kind of a weird story building off casino royale...although I liked the storyline of how Felix Lieter came to be better buddies with Bond through the side angle of the douchey CIA agent.

saveferris

March 12th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^

The problem with the Brosnan movies wasn't Brosnan, who I think played a pretty good James Bond, but the franchise had fallen into this pattern or trying to top itself with every subsequent movie.  Cooler gadgets, bigger action, etc... that by the time Brosnan came along the stories had blown up to such ridiculous preportions, they were almost becoming parodies of themselves.

Dominic Greene isn't on my list simply becauxe I don't agree.  I think Mathieu Almaric's performance in "Quantum of Solace" is pretty good.  He played that whole role with his eyes, where you look at him and realize he's not just some greedy, corporate raider, but he's a little insane.  Then you get to the end of the movie, where Bond has folied his plot and he just grabs and ax and tries to hack you to pieces like the psychopath that you've suspected he is all along.

pdgoblue25

March 12th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^

Bond list.

I feel bad because I do think Brosnan was a great choice for Bond, but he couldn't do anything to shine up those turds.

Jonathan Pryce should stick to selling Infinitis.

WindyCityBlue

March 12th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^

I can go for days about this.  (Just like I can go for days to convince people that Roger Moore was the best Bond).  The way I see it, its who play's the character that makes it.  Blofeld was played by 4 people.  Personally, I think Telly Savalas was best.  

On the flip side, I thought Michael Lonsdale was phenominal as Drax.  The movie was average and I didn't like Drax as a villian per se, but it was a good performance by the Michael Lonsdale. 

ScruffyTheJanitor

March 12th, 2015 at 2:28 PM ^

his problem is his face and countenence . He seems genteel where Connery was suave, and completely lacked the intensity of Dalton or Craig. Brosnan was similar (almost Moore 2.0), but was more believable as a ladies man. In fact, I'd place him second to last on my list simply because the one thing he brought better than the other Bonds (whimsy) is easily the least interesting to me. 

saveferris

March 12th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^

That's what makes these conversations so interesting, James Bond has featured in so many movies and has been portrayed by so many different actors, you can debate forever over who prefers what.  Myself, my least favorite portrayal of Bond is Roger Moore.  I've always been a Connery guy.  Of course if you were to point to the actor who comes closest to how the James Bond character is portrayed in the book, it's probably Timothy Dalton or Daniel Craig.

Evil Empire

March 12th, 2015 at 1:36 PM ^

He was just a big-time drug dealer.  Some kudos for the novel smuggling approach, but there was nothing else interesting about him.

Of course the movie sucked in general, so at worst he was equally lame.

ScruffyTheJanitor

March 12th, 2015 at 2:21 PM ^

but I thought that Raoul Silva was pretty terrible. Bardem played the charachter pretty well, I just thought that they tried to make him  the Nolan/Ledger  Joker-- the man who somehow could forsee every possible outcome and still somehow get beaten. I thought it kept Skyfall from being a great Bond movie. They tried to come up with a foil to Bond that was on his level, and I thought it failed. 

Danwillhor

March 12th, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^

I was just joking about this last night. The villains d that Bond is essentially a serial rapist lol. They may live him after but half the women he sleeps with were conned. In Live & Let Die it was the card girl. A virgin that had to remain that way to keep her powers, Bond somehow sneaks in a deck of tarot cards that are all the same one to sneakily convince her to bang him LOL. That's rape, James! Also, that movie is kind if creepy with its not so subtle racism at times. It's almost a blacksploitation film made by old white dudes. It has its cheesy moments but I was just howling with laughter at the "Bond way" of doing things I'd never noticed before. He likes him some rape.

jabberwock

March 12th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^

Particularly older protrayals (Conerey slapped a few women around).

But showing fake tarot cards to some 30 yr old woman to get her to sleep with you isn't even on the sexual misconduct spectrum, let alone rape.