The sheer amount of inaccuracies in this thread by posters who have their minds made up is crazy. It's well established they "dated" for only a couple months starting in the spring of 2012 until September of 2012 when she "died." Before that it was an occasional tweet or facebook message or call at most. From 2008 to 2012 there are at least 5 people who have come forward saying they were the victim of a similar hoax by "Lennay Kekua".
OT- Today's Manti Te'O thread; Katie Couric
I corrected a mistatement. He only told his parents he "met" her in 2009 as a lie to explain how he knew her... that's the only reference to that. It has aboslutely no bearing on their contact level/relationship. The timeline is really simple if you actually look it up. They only "dated" from spring 2012 to her "Death" in Spetember. The post I repleid to said they dated for 3 years. That's what I corrected. So where am I wrong?
Dude, surely you have something better to do than troll a Michigan blog and try to convince us that Te'o is completely innocent in this. We can be innaccurate whether it is because we are dumb, want ND to look foolish, don't like Te'o, didn't read everything, etc. because we are not journalists. We are average people consuming what the media and Te'o put out there for us and we are understandably confused and question how this happens in today's media age.
I understand that you will go to bat for ND and the individual players, but you are wasting your time on here. People either have their minds made up or are understandably skeptical of the whole story. I personally do not know what to believe because what started as a tragic love story, evolved to a hoax Te'o was in on, to a hoax he was not in on, to 3 people hoaxing him, a guy impersonating a women's voice, there was a drug dealer in there somewhere, people had met Lennay in person, etc. It goes on and on and is intriguing, but pointless. Don't act surprised when people don't take your Somoan hero at face value when it is clear that Te'o lied and played up the relationship to the media. That much we know to be true.
Nobody was hurt (phsyically) and no laws were broken (that we know of) and simply put ND looks pretty dumb (per usual) and Te'o is at the least, very niave. So, whatever.
I never should've come on here. I haven't been on here since I created an account to talk lacrosse about Michigan's new team last year. That discussion went a lot differently. I'm obviously not going to change anyone's mind and that's fine... so time to check out of this topic.
I have been married to a lovely woman for ten years, though she lives at a distance and we have never met in person. We have four children via awesome phone sex. I talk to her once a week and I send her 50% of my net pay to support the kids. It is a nice arrangement.
Early on, an Arizona Cardinal former teammate (assuming Floyd) said that he saw Te'o multiple times with this "girlfriend". Other teammates said the same thing. He himself said that he met her after a Stanford game. So which truth or "story" is he going with this time? And even if he was seen with a girl, how does he explain to people that the girl in the "picture" doesn't match the person standing before him and/or others? Sorry, but I'm not buying the hoodwinked scholor athlete.
It was a polynesian fullback with no Notre Dame ties. Who knows what he meant or who he was referring to.
It's already been well established that he lied to parents about meeting her at Stanford and they're the ones who spread that story to the newspapers.
Is every single post where you correct someone who has their facts wrong or present anything that doesn't say "whatever I don't care what he says he was in on it" or "whatever he's gay" gets immediately down voted.
I was directed to this thread by a bunch of Michigan engineers I work with... none of whom think Manti was in on it because they've actually paid attention to what has come out since the initial Deadspin article and we talk about it daily in the office. They told me the message board world was still thoroughly convinced he was in on it. I asked why and they said they want him to be in on it so nothing that comes out will change theirs minds.
The logic that "well, I think his story isn't plausible so he MUST be in on it" makes no sense. Our legal system doesn't work that way for a reason. It's darn near impossible to prove a negative. As an experiment, trying proving he was in on it. Try proving the other side you want so badly to believe.
How did he concoct this thing starting 2008 with someone he didn't know and had never met until November 2012? Why is there not a single person with first hand kmowledge who has come out on record and said they think he was in on it? Why has there not been a single piece of evidence uncovered so far implicating him in it with all of the digging that is going on? How do you explain the other 5 people hoaxed by Lennay from 2008 to 2012? How do you have a gay relationship with someone that you need to create a cover for if you've never met them until November 2012?
A large chunk of you already have your minds made up and that's your perogative. I hope at least a small portion of those who want to believe he was "in on it" take a step and try to be intellectually honest. You can still have your cake and eat it too... as Manti is clearly liar who lied about certain aspects of the relationship both during and after all of this... so he can still be a bad dude and shithead in your book.
But whatever, this is probably a waste of time as I'm sure this will just get downvoted and hidden too because it doesn't follow your desired narrative.
It is nearly impossible to prove from my living room. But boy does it smell fishy. I have to squint hard to see a world where a heterosexual stud linebacker at a major university wastes three years with a fictional woman when there are thousands of real women who want him. I could, however, see an engineering student in this situation.
If he spent 4 months on her instead of 3 years? Because that is how much time they were "dating" according to every news source out there. In the time preceding April/May 2012 and after September 2012 he has had real girlfriends.
But as a Mormon he can do just as much with his real girlfriends as a fake one... nothing at all until he is married.