its Raburn...why does his name constantly get misspelled?
OT: Tigers vs Twins Open Thread (NEW LINEUP)
Seriously, I could understand if he was still a rookie, but Raebern's been on the roster for a while now.
Sorry guys, my mistake, fixed it for you.
That's a pretty solid line-up. Throw Boesch in there in place of Ordonez and we'll be unstoppable.
Jackson (CF), Boesch (RF), Young (LF), Cabrera (1B), Martinez (DH), Peralta (SS), Raburn (2B), Avila (C), Betemit (3B).
Switch Avila and Reyvurrn and I agree.
when he obliges in making less errors on field. He was a sieve last week.
for Brian Braeburn
I wish Jimmy Leyland would realize that he is in the middle of a divional race and simply put his best lineup on the field. I understand guys need a day off here or there, but the way he rests guys is absolutely infuriating.
This lineup = Central Champs:
9. 2nd baseman
Perhaps Leyland is giving guys more rest this year to avoid the last-season collapses that have plagued this franchise lately.
But what he needs to realize is that if we didnt lose all these dinky little games here and there because we throw santiago, raburn, mags, and dirks in the lineup to rest random players, we could be 10 games up by now. He rests players too much, end of story. One key example coming up is him giving Verlander one extra day of rest, meaning he wont pitch against Cleveland. ONE DAY. Come on...give the guy his normal rest and let him pitch against the team on our tail. We need that win. How about some urgency here?!
like you think Dirks has hurt the team when he's been in the lineup. Or as if Raburn hasn't been hot since the all-star game (as he is every year)
Do you honestly think we have a better chance at winning with a lineup that has Dirks, Raburn (who probably has an error a game), and santiago so Leyland can give people like Betemit a rest? We traded for Betemit yet Leyland has been resting him like crazy for Raburn, who is an AWFUL fielder. Look at other teams, Leyland rests players way more than other teams.
that I started off talking about Dirks, then I should point out that whether he plays or not doesn't affect whether Betemit plays or not (considering that Dirks isn't an infielder. I should also point out that Betemit, like you say about Raburn, is also an awful defender.
Well, Both you are right, back to back errors by Betemit and Raburn... Let's move on.
They both are bad defenders, and dirks can sometimes provide some sparks on offense. I would just prefer that Raburn stay out of the lineup.
The Tigers had huge leads in 2006 and 2009 and blew them. The tradeoff of overplaying the regulars from April-August might be worse than the occasional loss here and there.
team also had a wRC+ of 94, placing them as a 6 percent below average offensive team. In addition the pitchers had an FIP of 4.53, xFIP of 4.45, tERA of 4.67, and Siera of 4.38.
Compare these numbers with 2011 where the offense has a wRC+ of 103. The pitchers have an FIP of 3.94, xFIP of 4.06, tERA of 4.19, and Siera of 3.88.
It seems completely likely that this team is much better than the 2009 version and that in 2009 the Tigers were winning more games than their true ability should have allowed for.
Look at the orioles series. Anytime we win the first 2 of a series, Leyland rests players. Betemit seemingly automatically comes out of the lineup. Why? Why not just play with the lineup that won the first 2 and sweep the series?
The Tigers lost that game by three runs. I don't know that you can assume they'd have won with all the regulars playing.
they were down by 7 in the 9th inning. They allowed 8 runs. Even with the regulars, you're not gonna normally win when you allow 8.
They probably would have lost that game regardless due to the pitching/defense. It just frustrates me that every time we win the first 2 of a series, Leyland switches the lineup around. But I suppose I should just let the season play out before I harp on it anymore. Thanks for your perspectives guys.
I would not be too upset if Young is where he currently is if he plays alright, but why do that to begin with? Young is batting over 300 since june with the twins in the 6 spot, so why not keep him in the 6 spot in Detroit? If he is a 6 hole batter on the twins, why is he a 3 spot batter with the division leadering Tigers? Plus, Peralta has proved himself on the Tigers. He hits for a little power and a high average, perfect for the third spot.
Yes, please tell me why Leyland insists on batting Peralta and Martinez 5 & 6. I like getting Dirks in here somewhere.
Where would you want Dirks, Peralta, and Martinez to be?
I don't get it, they have 2 all-stars in Peralta and Avila, why don't they move atleast one of them infront of Cabrera?
it spaces out the lineup. the tigers can be streaky and if the big 3 bats (cabrera, vmart, perralta) and avila don't hit, they're jacked. this roster at least pushes the idea of talent throughout. Avila batting low provides enough of a chance at a rally bat to get around to Jackson
Baseball god. It's his team, deal with it. We are lucky to be able to watch a player of this caliber in his prime.
delmon young bomb
Great pick up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOM. First at bat, homerun. Thats what I call a first impression
Followed up by an 8-pitch walk from Cabby. I like it.
There it is. Raburn's error of the game.
Fuck you raburn.
Ryan Rayburn should not be on a major league team.
Falls over trying to turn a double play.
Hmmm, what do you know? Poor defense costing Detroit runs.....
Thats why you put Martinez after Cabby
Good God Raburn is terrible.
I honest cannot remember a time he played without a dumb mistake.
There you go, he is playing so poorly because he is on MGoBlog during the game.
Jackson should be in the 9 hole. I know he looks like the ideal lead off hitter, but he does not get on base enough. Not even close. His runs scored numbers are brutal for a lead off man. Strike outs too much as well. Rooting for him though
Who else could we play as the leadoff? We dont have many guys built for it. Jackson does need to step it up big time though.
Young flashing the leather.
The crowd cheered when Raburn didn't mess up the play.
But I loved his face after even more, because he knew he totally deserved it.
What a great start for Delmon, this is feeling like a really solid pick up.
Wow.....didn't know he was within earshot of the 600 plateau
The difference in coverage between Jeter's pursuit of 3,000 hits and Thome's pursuit of 600 homers is unfortunate. 600 homers seems like a more prestigious record, but Jeter must more well known.
I would disagree. For me, 3000 hits is a more prestigious accomplishment. I believe the subsantial coverage is definitely warranted.
28 players have 3,000 hits while only 7 players (including Thome) have 600 homers, but I could see the former milestone being more highly regarded by the media and baseball fans (3,000 hits and 500 homers are synonymous with famed hitting careers, while 600 homers doesn't really get the same attention).
I suppose I just believe 3000 hits to be more indicative of a great hitting career than 600 homeruns. They're both damn good though.
They are both impressive. However, 3,000 hits shows that you have been a consistent threat at the plate, whereas some of the more prolific power hitters, especially in the modern game (yes, you, Reggie) have struck out at a prolific pace too.
I agree, but to play devil's advocate, one of the guys on baseball tonight said that homers were more impressive because (and I'm paraphrasing) batters can get lucky hits (bloops into shallow outfiled, for example) while "you can't get a lucky homerun."
Just another perspective to consider.
I won a $20 bet that Thome would hit #600 tonight.
But that was #599
It was an open ended $20 bet. If he hit two homers tonight, I get $20. Lol I'm not a total moran.
That would make more sense. And I never accused you of being an idiot. Just thought you may have misheard that he was at 599, or something like that.
You happen to be THE_KNOWLEDGE.
HE IS THE_KNOWLEDGE
nonetheless, congrats, enjoy the 20 bucks.
THIS MAN SEES THE FUTURE.
Aquaman2342 is the REAL THE_KNOWLEDGE.... Even though I hate that you just won that bet.
You, sir, are some kind of Wizard!
Awesome throw by Jackson and extremely great play by Avila to hold on.
Was some MANBALL!
seem to chase their tails alot.
Bring in a new pitcher and he walks a couple right after we crawl back into it.
Leadoff walks are killer.
Add to that the very poor defense we play every night and its a true wonder we are in 1st place.
Congrats Jim Thome and congrat aquaman2342 on winning your bet.
Nice bet, aquaman. Use your power of foresight to tell us how many wins our football team will have this year, or how badly will we beat the buckeyes? I have so many questions.
9-5 Twins! I've always been a fan of Thome even though he's played on a couple rivals
Aquaman, it's time to bet that the Tigers win 10-9.
I bet you one Internet Fistbump that the Tigers lose. If they win, you get a fistbump.
You know, I never noticed this brfore but I have had poops that look eerily similar to the contents of that foam box. I should probably eat more protein... or less protein.
According to ESPN Gamecast, Rian Rayburned just went yard. And as he rounded 3rd base, Gamecast reported that he screamed "Haters gonna hate" to Gene LaMont.
HOW YA LIKE ME NOW
YOU ARE HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER
Phil Coke is Joe Dirt only fatter and slightly more pathetic. He did have a decent start agianst Boston albeit in a fog that could shut down the port.
I really think Austin Jackson needs to go play winter ball after this season... He has to learn that striking out 30% of his at bats, and hitting .250 is not lead off hitter numbers (Even in Leyland's lineups).
I really like what he brings to the defense but much like Granderson early in his career, has to make some changes at the plate.
They said 65 of Thomes 600 home runs came against the Tigers. I must have seen everyone because it seems like he hit 500 against us.
for a consistent lineup!
Why can't he go away? And why can't Leyland go with him? All jokes aside,if the tigers don't win the division Jimmy Smokes will be gone...His replacement .......A guy "with two bad knees"...war gibson coming back to Motown ...