Jack Hammer

July 9th, 2016 at 7:12 PM ^

Few games out of wildcard and Indians still within reach. Do it. Send Pelfrey home. Pelfrey is one of the worst FA signings I've ever seen. This team has potential but must upgrade Pelfrey's slot. Rich Hill accomplishes that.

Eat Your Wheatlies

July 9th, 2016 at 9:43 PM ^

It doesn't matter what was spent in the offseason. Hindsight is 20/20. The A's have a very desirable trade commodity in a very thin SP market. He'll fetch a very good prospect. May end up being a A-ball guy, but he'll be a valued one. Not sure what it would take the Tigers to land him, but certainly more than two "marginal" prospects.

Rodriguesqe

July 10th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

Boesch had big holes in his swing but I think his big problem was he had no pitch selection skills. He swung at everything and once pitchers figured that out he was helpless. I think Moya already displayed that he is far advanced Boesch in that regard, even if he too isn't a walking machine.

I think he could have a richie sexson type career path. He's 24 and 6'7, too early write the book on him.

Rodriguesqe

July 9th, 2016 at 7:42 PM ^

I dont know.

For one, talk about a hit (signing rich hill for 1 / 6 mill) and a miss (signing pelfrey 2 / 15).

Something about Rich Hill reminds me of Jarod Washburn.

I view Moya as a pretty substantial trade chip. I'm talking out of my ass here, but moving him to 1st and Cabrerra to DH seems like prudent move. I don't know if Moya has played first but hes pretty awful in right, and Cabrerra hasn't seemed right all year and I wonder if the daily grind is too much. 

That of course would mean moving Victor so probably not going to happen, but I think that would be the better direction to go.

rainingmaize

July 9th, 2016 at 8:22 PM ^

Washburn's advance stats that year we got him suggested that he was getting a lot of luck that first half before we got him. After we got him, not only did he even out, he got a little unlucky. Hill's advance stats are great. His era and FIP (usually the go to stat that tells you if they have been lucky or unlucky) are nearly identical. 

Rodriguesqe

July 9th, 2016 at 7:42 PM ^

Also, to be fair, Pelfrey has been fairly ok as a 5th starter. Half my gripes with him is how slow he pitches. The game crawls during his starts.

Rodriguesqe

July 9th, 2016 at 8:04 PM ^

if you have to start one of Pelfrey or Sanchez its an easy choice. 3 of the Pelfrey's last 4 starts have been very good. He might take you out of the game, but most games he's given us a chance. Sanchez can't say the same.

Pelfrey has also given up the most hits in the AL, so not saying he's been great or even good.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

July 9th, 2016 at 11:02 PM ^

I'll admit the $8 million a year is pretty nonsensical, but the point was never to add another ace to the rotation.  It was to shore up the back end.  Has he been wonderful, no, but he's also been the victim of some pretty rotten luck.  His opponents' BABIP is sky-high, meaning his WHIP is due to come down, and his 4.58 ERA isn't horrendous.  And his run support has been nothing but shit.  The team has scored zero runs in four of his starts.

Pelfrey's not great or anything, but he's holding up the back end alright and that's allowed Shane Greene to go to the pen where he's been ten thousand zillion times better than as a starter, which is a massive help.

Eat Your Wheatlies

July 9th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^

Not sure how you define "peaked", but I agree about the comment on his defense. He's terrible in the outfield, and has cost the club quite a few runs as of late. He'll hit plenty of bombs, but his average will probably live in the .230 range. Paired with crappy defense, I'm not sure it's worth hanging on to.

coldnjl

July 10th, 2016 at 7:51 AM ^

Why would the As want Moyà. His approach to hitting is everything Billy Beane hates in a hitter. I would think the bidding begins with Norris and a top low class prospect. Norris is at least major league ready and cheap.

Vigorous

July 10th, 2016 at 8:30 AM ^

I watch every A's game that I can, even from Ann Arbor, and I can tell you that the opposition knows that they are getting a curveball, but still cannot hit it. (Also I do not like the run on sentence that I just wrote)

BigSmooth33

July 10th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^

This is just silly. Pelfrey isn't even close to the worst thing on our team pitching wise. Anibal has been ATROCIOUS. I'd like to land Hill but not for Moya. How about dumping Goes after the run in with our future manager and sprinkle in Tyler Collins for good measure.




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