well that's just, like, your opinion, man
OT: Tigers re-sign Inge
"Show Me the Money!"
I like Inge, but I get the feeling he's on the decline. Can't complain about his defense, but his bat usually frustrates the hell out of me.
Inge is a stop gap until Castellanos or Gaynor fullfil their potential and take over - hopefully. I didn't see very many options on the FA market, so it seems logical to resign one of the most liked Tigers. We know what we get in Inge: decent defense, and a guy who sees himself as a power hitter but isn't.
He's better than decent defensively. Perhaps the best in the AL; him or Beltre anyway.
move for the Tigers. Inge is still a solid player.
I still wish we had Granderson as a side note.
What? Austin Jackson had a great year and he is younger/cheaper than Granderson. It's time to move on now.
his defense is a lot better than i thought. he'll be average even if his bat regresses and that's more than enough to make up for granderson given his salary.
I'd rather have Beltre than Inge (but I guess he's not "walking through that door"), but I'd rather have A-Jax than Grandy. Granderson two biggest problems were that he was an automatic out against lefties (especially in the late innings, when he was facing a LOOGY-type guy or better), and that he routinely got poor jumps/reads on deep flies. A-Jax has less power and stirkesout more, but is a more consistent threat to get on base and fields to position better. Plus we got Scherzer out of the deal.
last 5 years prior to this one and most his career. He's a good fielder, but not worth the big $$ he has been making-especially in the Seattle days.
It definitely seems like he only plays well when a big money contract is on the line. See 2004 and 2010 (his only two standout years.)
I don't know Beltre's contract info but if he's near what Inge makes...i'd take it for 15 points higher average on average and 15 more rbi on average.
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After last year's 1 year deal for $9mil, he is trying to pull the same 2004/05 big time contract jack move that he pulled on Seattle all over again.
is significantly better than inge. he put up over 20 HRs per year in Seattle; perhaps the toughest hitters park in the AL. and he's gold glove caliber too. but it would take a lot more money to get him over inge; especially with the mvp-type year he had.
but he is contract year guy and not worth the extra money or length of contract that he is going to most likely get. His numbers don't justify him asking for close to double Inge's salary which is what he will do.
His bat is better and he is the best defensive third basemen in the league. The contract year thing has been proven to be a myth anyway.
Beltre, I feel, proves that the "myth" of a contract year player isn't a myth at all.
His two biggest years are the seasons he had a large free agency contract coming up in the off season- 2004 and 2010. I bet you can also guess which seasons were his ONLY season's that he hit over .300 in?
Look at the stats I posted above and then the corresponding $$ and it becomes pretty apparent that he is most definitely a contract year guy
I think the reason that he hit so poorly between 2005 and 2009 was because of park factors. Look up Seattle's, they are a great pitchers park. I don't think Beltre is a 141 OPS+ guy like he was this year, but he can be 110 OPS+ with fantastic defense going forward. Also, you are confusing causation with correlation, in regards to contract years.
How do you know it's not causation?
For one, check out the link that Seth9 provided. Secondly, park factors have been shown to have a major impact on players.
The story seems to demonstrate that it is not a widespread, or even common, phenomenon. However, it doesn't rule out any individual case from being an example of it being true.
And while I agree that ballparks can have a significant effect, it doesn't rule out other factors. For example, how do you explain his 2004 season?
I wouldn't state as fact that Beltre is the best in the AL defensively. Inge has something to say about that.
Inge is more bang for the buck when you consider salaries. Paying over 100% more for Belre to get the difference in offense is not worth it.
Inge's UZR/150 by year:
Inge is clearly on a downward trajectory (injuries? age?). He's my favorite Tiger but he's not nearly as good as Beltre
Ah, I love fangraphs, but I've found their fielding statistics to be less reliable than their hitting and pitching numbers. For example, Fangraphs has Inge behind Jose Lopez in fielding which is, quite frankly, laughable. Fielding is more of an inexact science than hitting or pitching and can't be quantified as easily. I haven't examined all of the deficiencies in the fielding numbers, but one example is the points players get for turning double plays, which are largely a function of the pitching staff and the number of ground balls they induce. The large fluctuation in each of the numbers from year to year is also suspect.
Having watched a lot of games from both teams, Inge has slightly better range than Beltre. He gets to balls Beltre doesn't get to. And yet, at least this year, he still maintains a higher fielding % than Beltre. He also has more accurate throws when off-balance. They are two of the best in the AL though. Longoria is probably in the mix too.
Crowdsourcing put Beltre's expected contract at 4 years/$52 million dollars, or $13 million per year. Inge is making $5.5 million per year for two years. After those two years, however, the Tigers will need to replace him at 3B so we can reasonable assume they will pay another $5.5 million per year for those two years. Given that the cost per win (WAR) is roughly $5 million. The question to ask is whether Adrien Beltre is worth 1.5 more wins than Brandon Inge over the next four years. Let's look at their last four years:
2007: Beltre 2.7, Inge 2.5
2008: Beltre 3.5, Inge 1.1
2009: Beltre 1.1, Inge 1.4
2010: Beltre 6.1, Inge 1.5
That's +5.8 over a four year span. We had previously said that Beltre would need to be +6 for the contract to make sense. Further reasons why I would sign Beltre over Inge, even accounting for price difference:
2. Strikeouts - Inge has "old player skills" and those guys don't usually last too long
3. The marginal value of each win increases for teams that are playoff contenders. The player that sends a team from its 89th win to its 90th is more valuable than a player who sends a team from its 72nd win to its 73rd, As far as I can tell, the Tigers intend to compete for division titles in these next four years, so they should take the risk of paying for a better player.
I agree with the overall sentiment, and I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having Beltre instead of Inge. Afterall, there's no salary cap and it's not my money. That said, I'm fine with keeping Inge and spending elsewhere too. We'll probably have to wait and see what else the Tigers do by next season before we have a good assessment though.
Btw, how are you defining "old player skills"?
Lastly, I'm not sure Beltre really has much of an advantage, if one at all, in durability. I know Inge has played a lot of games while injured, but he is playing them. Games missed due to injury per year:
2005 - 0
2006 - 0
2007 - 5
2008 - 15
2009 - 1
2010 - 15
2005 - 6
2006 - 5
2007 - 10
2008 - 5
2009 - 49
2010 - 2
I define Old Player Skills as guys with low batting averages and high strikeouts. Currently, Inge walks enough, hits enough HR and plays good enough defense to be valuable despite his flaws. However, his flaws are so heavy that even a slight drop in BA will effectively kill his value. Inge is putting up .315 OBP's despite hitting only .230 or so. If he hits .200, his value is effectively gone. Contrast that to Beltre, if he drops 30 points in batting average, he is still a .245/.300/.440 hitter with great defense.
no doubt beltre would cost more. but there is not doubt he is way better than inge. batting behind cabrera, i would guarnatee .290 25 HR and 90-100 rbi out of him playing in D-town.
Seattle's ballpark was terrible for Beltre. He is a very good player but likely not worth the contract he will demand.
A-Jax was much better than Granderson last year, makes far less money, and is a lot younger. Granderson is a good player who is probably is what he is at this point. Jackson was a ROOKIE and outplayed him. Austin Jackson will likely win AL Rookie of the year, and has a chance to be a perennial All-Star. I'll take A-Jax, thank you.
i was really worried about the defense when grandy was traded. grandy had to play CF and parts of LF and RF when he was here, due to the defensive liabilities on either side of him. he went back on a ball as good as anyone i have ever seen. but had trouble with the little loopers (remember the 2006 WS fiasco).
however, jackson is purely awesome in CF. he's worthy of a gold glove this year but probably won't get it as a rookie. he's the best young defensive OF i've seen since andruw jones. i would have been happy with a .250 BA from him, but he was better. very happy having him wear the english D for a long time.
I'd like Inge as a utility player, but as an everyday 3rd basemen he's just another hole in the Tigers lineup.
I didn't see the $$ values in the article, but if it's at a discount from his previous contract it could be a decent signing. He was overpaid for the production he had for his previous deal - just my opinion.
Get out of my head! But, this is what I was thinking. I love this guy on the roster as a utility player, injury insurance, etc. I don't like him has my everyday 3rd baseman, but would accept him as such for a discount.
My assumption is they overpaid for him as a reward for sticking around. This is what the Tigers do.
I was going to write that I could really care less about Inge and started to do so before I realized that there is no reason to be "that guy." Since I subscribe to the "if you don't like it, don't read it or respond" thinking, I decided that it was better to not respond negatively. I probably shouldn't have wasted my time responding at all but I'm already this far into it so I might as well post it, right?
Hmm... So you still have proclaimed that you could care less by saying that you aren't going to post about how you could care less b/c although it's true you don't want to be THAT guy.
I don't want to be THAT guy who tells you that you are in fact being that guy. So i'll just refrain from telling you that. K cool, good talk.
You rascal! I thought I could sneak it in there without being too much of a d-ck. Bummer.
Haha, I couldn't resist! Not that I think your a dick, I just wanted to reply to your "that guy" post by being "that guy" myself.
Nitpicky grammar Nazi-ism, but it should be "couldn't care less." "Could care less" insinuates that you have some amount of care factor towards Brandon Inge and that you are specifically mentioning that there are things that you, in fact, care less about.
You raise a good point. Maybe, deep down inside, I really do care about Inge and it showed its face in my grammar . . . Hmmmm . . .
I think thats the big issue here. I would sign him too if the price was right.
Excellent. Inge has his flaws but he's got a good enough bat to go along with his excellent defense. Two years with a club option is the perfect length. Plus, Inge's rootability is through the roof. To use a phrase that the Tigers' marketing department let go of way too soon, Inge is my Tiger.
He might save a run or two here ad there. But he's an instant rally killer. He even admitted that he could hit for a higher average by slapping the ball over the field, but prefers to drive the ball. He's played long enough to know that he's hurting the team with that philosophy. When you got a man in scoring position, just slap the stupid ball through the infield and get the run in.
If you want to root for a guy who's awful at a traditional power position, go ahead. But give me an average defensive 3rd baseman that provides protection or Cabrera. I don't hate him, but he should not be a starting third baseman for a non expansion team.
who hits in the 8-9 spot in the lineup I don't have an issue with. Above average defensively, runs the bases well, occasional pop in his bat. It's when he's a top 2/3 of the lineup hitter that there's a problem. I assume we got him on a discount?
who hits in the 8-9 spot in the lineup I don't have an issue with. Above average defensively, runs the bases well, occasional pop in his bat. It's when he's a top 2/3 of the lineup hitter that there's a problem. I assume we got him on a discount?
I like Inge but having his Mendoza-line bat in the lineup is a killer.
Inge has only ever approached the Mendoza line as a catcher. He's basically a .250 hitter as a 3B, double-digit home runs, >70 RBIs. And a top-level fielder. What's wrong with that?
Nothing, he's a solid 3B. The Inge hate is silliness. People who don't like this signing are out of touch with the FA market this year.
If the FA market sucks, then save the 5 mil a year and let Sizemore move over to 3rd. He costs less money, can't hit worse than Inge and will give you an average glove. We save money that could go to another need.
Anyone who think the hate is silliness needs to look at what he provides in the current lineup. He's a huge liability in the 6-7 hole, meaning no protection at all for Cabrera. He refuses to just hit for a higher average and just be a contact hitter. He swings for the fence in that little body of his.
He's just not built to be an every day 3rd baseman. Not everyone is. Tom Brookens has played more games at 3rd than Inge, but he was never the full time 3rd baseman. What's more bizarre than the Inge hate is the Leyland love for Inge. We can platoon at all these other positions, but apparently Inge is untouchable.
I guess I can understand that he is a fan favorite, but that does not mean we should be wasting money on a big league corner infielder who can't hit. That position is pivotal to produce offensively. People let emotions play into who they deem productive in baseball far too often. Do you think the Yankees would still have Jeter out there if emotions played no role? Gimme a break. We would be a much better team if we shipped Inge out with the next shipment of rubber dogshit, IME.
Would you like to suggest a better option at 3B? The free agent pool at the position isn't great this year and our farm team players aren't ready yet.
That position is pivotal to produce offensively.
I have no idea what that means. Every position is pivotal if you have a good player there. The Giants had a good year with Pablo Sandoval at 3B for them.
You can tell by the neg points that people love Inge with no regard to how horrible he is. He is terrible.
The corner infield position has to be more of a power position. Sorry to confuse you so early on a Thursday.
Corner infielders (on successful teams) are power positions, as are corner outfielders. They can be less rangey and more built for power. It is trade off.
As to who I would take over Inge at 3rd base? Almost anybody. Hell, throw Matt Stairs out there for all I fucking care. Give me anybody who has a realistic chance of, you know, hitting a fucking baseball with a fucking bat. Thanks for the neg.
Matt fucking Stairs? See, that's why you're getting negged. You think a guy who hits .194-5-17 swings a better bat than .230-27-84.
I think Matt Stairs dreams of kittens having a tea party at night, like I do. It's why I like him and think he is an awesome player who should be dragged out there even though he is fucking terrible day in and day out, you know, because he is like me and I feel bad for him or some other completely non relevent reason to keep a player who sucks mounds of flesh flute.
/see what I did there?
Oh, like you're any less biased. Again: Find someone better. That's on the market right now, and available. Inge Sux is not a strategy or a plan. Neither is Anybody Would Be Better. No, they would not.
The irrational Inge hate is definitely worse than the irrational Inge love.
Btw, aside from being one of the two best defensive 3Bs in the AL, Inge was 5th in OPS last season among AL 3Bs.
pretty much lost his job down the stretch.
You say the emotional part of it like it's a bad thing. First off it's an economic decision. If 5% of the attendance this season at Tigers games is because there are people who went to see a certain player, then that's worth taking into account. Not every Tiger fan is hardcore, win-at-all-costs. Lot of people go to see the actual players. Lots of Yankee fans want to see Derek Jeter, not the Yankees' shortstop.
Second, those people have a point. Do you want the Tigers to win? Or do you want to see a winning club comprised of nine random players that happen to wear the Tigers' logo?
I disagree with all of you about Inge. This is a professional sports team, not some fucking charity. I am all for rooting for a student athlete even though he may not produce because I like him or he had sex with my daughter and didn't tell the whole school (what a gentleman), but in the pros? Win or go home, brother.
Inge fucking sucks and to answer your question I pay to see the Tigers win games and if you are wearing a Tigers hat you are indeed a Tiger. Hell I would love to see my old man out there, but they don't sign him to a fucking contract although he could probably swing the bat better than creaky knees Inge. Also, nice facial hair Inge. What are you fucking 16?
Now I agree with you that Inge is pretty much garbage at a position that needs to produce runs. He was an elite defender which is why they've held onto him for so long, but he is a career .237 hitter, who is almost always 2nd on the team in strikeouts next to then grandy, now a-jax.
I honestly feel with Peralta you would see a decline defensively but he performed well in a Tiger's Uni, and has enough pop in his bat to be an upgrade at 3B. Inge is a fan favorite but so was Grandy and they let him go. Inge just reminds me of Bobby Higginson his last few years in Detroit. That's not good.
That's all I'm saying (amongst my myriad insults). The guy just isn't good enough offensively ata position where that has to be there. If he was a world class defensive 2B who had a .237 I wouldn't say shit (WHY DID WE GET RID OF POLANCO? GOD WHY?!?!), but he is unfortunately a 3B and you have to get well above average power there to succeed.
The Phils were out of there mind with the amount of scratch they gave him. 3 years/$18mil is insane.
I'll take that risk on a career .300 hitter, who can also hit at the top of the lineup, with his average defense. We didn't lose games this year because our defense blew. We lost games because our bottom of the order sucked. So we bring back one of those bottom three. Inge's defense is still great, but I would prefer someone who's going to have productive at-bats.
And Inge is no spring chicken either. He's well into his 30s and players typically do not start hitting for average this late in their career.
Posted in the wrong place - disregard.
Just did the math, he switched positions for the 2005 season his BA from 2005-2010 is still only .239
Edit: Sorry didn't see the disregard.
And they have not released the financial terms for the 2 year deal. If the terms are resonable...3 million per or in that ball park...then I can deal with the signing. Anything over 4 million per is too much. He is a good defender, but still cannot hit. If the money is reasonable, I can live with it.
if its worth more than 4m a season they got hosed. But that's what the Tigers do.... I'm sure the bottom three of the Tigers' order will be a veritble black hole again...
Oh well, here's to another third place finish that is only close until the all star break whent hey inevitably fall apart and make you wonder how they were in it in the first place.
You must be a really happy person to hang out with. The bottom three in any lineup save the Yankees is a boat load of stink. The Tigers starting falling behind in the standings this year because of injuries up and down the lineup and no team that is starting 4 or 5 rookies a night is going to be a world beater. But I'm glad you're super depressed about next year already.
I'm not super depressed about anything. I just know that the Tigers make befuddling personnel decisions routinely. AND they've had two quality seasons in in my LIFETIME. AND they've only finished above 3rd six times in my life. AND players like Brandon Inge are case in point why they continue to be lousy. I'm optomistic about things that deserve to be. Teams like the Lions and Tigers that simply have not shown they can make the right decisions or perform will be treatedly with extreme skepticism until they prove it.
[EDIT] how about last year? why did they fail to make the playoffs least year? and the year before? and the year before? why did they fade down the stretch the world series year? Were those all rookie-related collapses, too?
Not to start a fight, but how old are you? Two quality seasons in your lifetime? I'm under 30, and they were good for most of the 80's and recently made some nice runs recently. Sure, they sucked for virutally all of the 90s and early 00s, but talk to a Pirates/Royals fan if you want to see extended sucking.
And I don't see how they have made any more horrible decisions than most other teams. They have been drafting reasonably well, turned a couple of hyped-but-unproven prospects (Andrew Willer and Cameron Maybin) into Miguel Cabrera (and yes, Willis was a bad signing), and have remained relevant in recent years. They are not the Yankees/Red Sox so injuries will slow them down considerably, but they are still an above-average team that can make a run every once and a while. I'll take that.
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|2008||Detroit Tigers||American League||74||88||.457||14.5||3,202,645|
|2007||Detroit Tigers||American League||88||74||.543||8.0||3,047,139|
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|2004||Detroit Tigers||American League||72||90||.444||20.0||1,917,005|
|2003||Detroit Tigers||American League||43||119||.265||47.0||1,368,245|
|2002||Detroit Tigers||American League||55||106||.342||39.0||1,503,623|
|2001||Detroit Tigers||American League||66||96||.407||25.0||1,921,305|
|2000||Detroit Tigers||American League||79||83||.488||16.0||2,533,753|
|1999||Detroit Tigers||American League||69||92||.429||27.5||2,026,491|
|1998||Detroit Tigers||American League||65||97||.401||24.0||1,409,391|
|1997||Detroit Tigers||American League||79||83||.488||19.0||1,365,157|
|1996||Detroit Tigers||American League||53||109||.327||39.0||1,168,610|
|1995||Detroit Tigers||American League||60||84||.417||26.0||1,180,979|
|1994||Detroit Tigers||American League||53||62||.461||18.0||1,184,783|
|1993||Detroit Tigers||American League||85||77||.525||10.0||1,971,421|
|1992||Detroit Tigers||American League||75||87||.463||21.0||1,423,963|
|1991||Detroit Tigers||American League||84||78||.519||7.0||1,641,661|
|1990||Detroit Tigers||American League||79||83||.488||9.0||1,495,785|
|1989||Detroit Tigers||American League||59||103||.364||30.0||1,543,656|
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|1987||Detroit Tigers||American League||98||64||.605||-||2,061,830|
|1986||Detroit Tigers||American League||87||75||.537||8.5||1,899,437|
|1985||Detroit Tigers||American League||84||77||.522||15.0||2,286,609|
|1984||Detroit Tigers||American League||104||58||.642||-||2,704,794|
|1983||Detroit Tigers||American League||92||70||.568||6.0||1,829,636|
|1982||Detroit Tigers||American League||83||79||.512||12.0||1,636,058|
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|1980||Detroit Tigers||American League||84||78||.519||19.0||1,785,293|
I'm 24. They were decent in 87 and 06. the rest...balls.
Your definition of decent is way too high. They were definitely decent in 88, 91, 07, and 09, when they competed for a playoff spot and had winning seasons. Perhaps they weren't ultimately successful seasons (defining success as a playoff berth), but they were decent in that the team was fairly good and they were in the hunt for most of the year.
2006: The team massively overperformed in 2006. Some of our pitchers struggled down the stretch and our lineup was harmed when Polanco was injured against Boston (injured shoulder while making a great catch), leading to the use of Neifi Perez.
2007: The arms of our starting rotation exploded in August. Pitchers like Robertson and Bonderman did not have the best seasons of their careers as they did in 06. Cleveland overperformed and had a tremendous finish to the season, going 96-66.
2008: Sheffield and Renteria had absolutely horrendous seasons. Renteria in particular was far worse than anticipated. Verlander had his worst year to date by far. Our best pitcher was Armando Galarraga (no offense to him, but he's not an ace). That said, Dombrowski is squarely responsible for the failure of the rotation, because it was reliant on some grouping of Rogers (age issues), Bonderman (health issues), Robertson (health issues and not a good pitcher anyway), and Willis (who inexplicably got an extension).
2009: The lineup was horrendous for several reasons. First of all, Everett and Laird were pegged as everyday players and we went into the year hoping the core of the lineup could get it done. This was then compounded by Ordonez's struggles and Guillen's inability to shake his injury problem. As a result, our outfield often featured a number of mediocre to poor players including Thames, Thomas, and Josh Anderson, among others (I won't count Raburn since 2009 was a career year for him). We also had issues at the bottom of the rotation, but everyone else did too. We attempted to fix some of these issues during the season, but Jarrod Washburn and Aubrey Huff both were awful beyond anyone's expectations. Despite all these issues, the Tigers managed to somewhat inexplicably come very close to making the playoffs.
2010: We never had much of a shot with the deadweight on our roster. This was the year where the litany of bad contracts really really hurt us. We had known holes at second base (we hoped that Sizemore would do well, but when you're starting rookies at multiple positions, somebody's not going to pan out), catcher (Laird/Avila rotation), and shortstop (Everett/Santiago). We also saw Porcello take a step back this year. This team was expected to be mediocre and it was.
Conclusion: The Tigers have made a mix of good and bad decisions over the past several years. On the good side, we have a number of trades, including the Cabrera/Willis deal (Cabrera panned out, nobody else that we traded did) and the Granderson trade (reduced expenses and got better value than what we gave up). We also have drafted fairly well, especially when you look at Porcello and Perry's talent (whether they should have gotten more time in the minors is another story). On the bad side is a number of extensions, including those given to Sheffield, Willis, Bonderman, and Robertson, as well as the Renteria/Jurrjens trade. It is also a fair question as to whether we are giving our pitchers enough time in the minors before calling them up.
Ilitch and Dombrowski have shown a tendency to take gambles. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't. Part of the reason the Tigers became respectable in the first place was because they invested in risks like Rodriguez, Ordonez, and Rogers. That said, they've also made some very poor gambles, especially with regards to the Sheffield and Willis extensions. A lot of money comes off the books this offseason, so this is the year to turn the Tigers into a playoff team. It's an open question whether Dombrowski can pull it off.
Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, re-signing Inge was a great move because Brandon Inge is the best player in the history of baseball and anyone who says differently is a terrible person with no redeeming qualities whatsoever...
OK, not really. But I like Inge and he's a good defensive player whose bat is by no means good, but is acceptable for a bottom of the order hitter.
I tihnk you hinted at it with the "exploding arms" comment, but Bonderman was arguably one of the top 5 pitchers in the AL going into the All-Star break. When that clot developed he was developing into a great pitcher. It's part of the reason he could come back next year and give it another go...at a reasonable price.
Sandoval is terrible. There's 4 good offensive 3b in the game right now. Sometimes MLB replacement level is more expensive and a better play than mystery straw man nonexistant free agent.
Wright, Arod ( not worth 33 million), Zimmerman, Longoria is the list. Betre has a history of perfroming in a contract year and crapping in other years.
Edit: Michael Young is pretty good too, but doesnt generate power.
Inge seems to always brings about a debate between fans on his value.... So many people love the guy and so many people hate the guy, and as a spokesman and advertiser for the team he obviously sparks a lot of attention and debate.
One item I never hear in these debates is his added value to the franchise - There must be an added value from him in merchandising, advertising, and ticket sales which we cannot quantify...
It'll be interesting to see what the new contract is.
Inge is a class act, good to have him back in Detroit.
I'm happy he's back. For all his warts, he plays solid defense and can provide some power in the bottom half of the lienup. 2 years sounds about right, and since it isn't my money (and I doubt he broke the bank), I'm fine with having a solid veteran on the team.
Looking at 3 year avg, from '08-10, of all 3B w/ min 300 plate appearances (40 qualified), Inge ranks in the following categories:
I would posbang this until it couldn't walk if I could. excellent post.
Do you have a source for those numbers?
EDIT: Sorry for the double post.
His batting stats align more with someone making in the low $3,000,000 range. His versatility and fielding, plus maybe additional premium for what he means to merchandising, would put him a little higher than 3 mil. We'll see once the finacials are made available.
I like the resigning of Inge, because they got him for so cheap watch for them to make some huge splashes in the free agent market this year.
Inge has been a has been for years
5.5 million each of the next two years with a club option for 6 million for a third year. Way overpaid for a player that under produces. On the plus side he will have a chance to make his Tigers strike out record untouchable.
...is what I was afraid of. I'm fine with Inge at 3rd if we were paying him Adam Everett money....oh maybe even a little more than Everett....but $6 mil a year? Ack.
he's retire a Tiger.......