blueguard5

September 30th, 2011 at 9:29 PM ^

NOOOO MOTHER NATURE JUSTIN VERLANDER NEEDED TO PITCH A SOLID GAME 1

 

i mean, i'm sure yankees fans aren't happy with the fact sabathias start will most likely be wasted

qed

September 30th, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^

my point on cc is he looked sharp but also knew in that inning that he could just hammer every ball down the middle as no one could hit it in the rain.  CC, in general, is better than Verlander in hammering the strike zone.  Sometimes it takes Verlander an inning to find the strike zone and sometimes he strays.  This was my concern in the series was that the patient yankees would induce 1 or 2 walks for a given inning and we would have a fielding error (essentially the first inning) and score a run (or where their only hit would be a 3 run homer).  That being said, I still feel comfortable with Verlander over CC because CC is prone to the long ball.  However, I feel really comfortable about Fister.  He always throws strikes and should be a good pitcher against the yankees.

qed

September 30th, 2011 at 9:33 PM ^

i think it hurts the tigers more (not just because of the lost rain bats in the top of the inning) but because Verlander was considered the one factor that gave us the edge (though I think fister is the big difference factor).  I would have to think that anything that might equally reduce the quality of both pitchers is a big advantage to the Yankees or at least should make yankee fans happy.

BRCE

September 30th, 2011 at 9:42 PM ^

The Tigers' dependence on Verlander is highly overblown and a storyline from June-July that has carried over with the national media that don't follow the team as closely as many of us do.

Not only do we now have Fister, but New York's 3-4 starters are about as shaky as ours. If you can get over the Big Bad Yankee myth, this is a very evenly matched series.

 

mdurham07

September 30th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^

I'm not saying this will happen, but as a casual baseball fan I am curious.  If Verlander is done for the night now, would this be the equivalent of a bullpen guy going an inning and JV could go in maybe game 3?

qed

September 30th, 2011 at 9:51 PM ^

I'd rather just drop this game and restart tomorrow.  Both pitchers didn't pitch a lot.  It really screws their cycles in any event but probably not as bad that way.  Then they can just have a game on Wednesday instead of an off day and make it up that way.  It was tied 1-1 and we had 3 bogus at bats ... it should just be restarted.

qed

September 30th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^

Cal Ripken made a comment that they wouldn't wipe the game clean and start over because of new rules...is this true?  Since the game just started and was 1-1 ... i think it is a good candidate for wiping clean.  The tigers had an extra half inning but that is BS as it should have been called before those lost at bats.

Lordfoul

September 30th, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^

No game called because of a curfew (Rule 4.12(a)(1)), weather (Rule 4.12(a)(5)), a time limit (Rule 4.12(a)(2)) or with a tied score (Rule 4.12(a)(6)) shall be a suspended game unless it has progressed far enough to have been a regulation game pursuant to Rule 4.10(c). 

4.10
(a) A regulation game consists of nine innings, unless extended because of a tie score, or shortened (1) because the home team needs none of its half of the ninth inning or only a fraction of it, or (2) because the umpire calls the game. EXCEPTION: National Association leagues may adopt a rule providing that one or both games of a doubleheader shall be seven innings in length. In such games, any of these rules applying to the ninth inning shall apply to the seventh inning.
(b) If the score is tied after nine completed innings play shall continue until (1) the visiting team has scored more total runs than the home team at the end of a completed inning, or (2) the home team scores the winning run in an uncompleted inning.
(c) If a game is called, it is a regulation game:
    (1) If five innings have been completed;
    (2) If the home team has scored more runs in four or four and a fraction half-innings than the visiting team has scored in five completed half-innings;
    (3) If the home team scores one or more runs in its half of the fifth inning to tie the score.

(d) If a regulation game is called with the score tied, it shall become a suspended game. See Rule 4.12.
(e) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, the umpire shall declare it “No Game.”
(f) Rain checks will not be honored for any regulation or suspended game which has progressed to or beyond a point of play described in 4.10(c)

 

Tie game, should not be suspended.  (Should be declared "No Game" and stats never happened.)

Lordfoul

September 30th, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^

This game should not count in any capacity.  They should start out in the 1st tomorrow according to MLB's posted rules (see above).

The forcast doesn't look good for the weekend either.  Maybe they should just move the entire series to the D.  ;~)

BRCE

September 30th, 2011 at 10:37 PM ^

I'll speculate on what I'm sure many are thinking: MLB is picking it up where they left off because that gives the Yankees one more offensive inning than the Tigers have. If the Tigers were up a run, they'd wipe it. Their consultant on the issue was NBA Commissioner David Stern.

There.

qed

September 30th, 2011 at 11:24 PM ^

sure he has had lights-out games but he normally has an inning or so that's long like that where the other team doesn't really do anything (except when we field like we did that inning).  I agree it is probably not a good sign but I am sure we would have pitched Verlander to 130 and he would have gone 7 at least.