OT - Tigers DEFINITELY DON'T need to trade Cabrera

He's young and ultra productive. He carried the team offensively. If it weren't for him, the Tigers would not where they are right now.

If he can keep it up for the next 10 years, he's a shoo in for a HOF based on his numbers alone.

He became an above average 1B which is a major improvement from where he was before he was traded to the Tigers. He was a big time liability in 3B and LF.

"There was an incident that took place on Saturday and it is a personal matter," Cabrera said in a statement. "I am sorry this has become a distraction, and I apologize to the Tigers, my teammates, and all of the fans. I would appreciate it if you would respect my family's privacy as I prepare for our next game."

http://www.wwj.com/Police--Cabrera--Wife-In-Physical-Altercation/5367203

Even Hawk Harrelson from the Sox broadcast team (who is the biggest homer in the history of sports) said this weekend that he is the best right handed hitter in the AL and would be the best overall hitter if not for Mauer.

Why would you ever trade him? Nearly every superstar has some sort of issues look at Man Ram, Bonds, Sosa, and A Rod just to name a few.

"I would imagine that he is worth at least 3 solid role players. Why not trade him, if an even deal could be reached?"

Miguel Cabrera had a WAR of 5.2 this season. That makes him worth 23.5 million on the open market (this may be slightly inflated with the projected rejection lowering what the overall value of one win this year). According to you, we should trade Miguel Cabrera for three Ryan Raburn's (role players). Ryan Raburn's WAR was 1.6, and he had a career year. I could have picked Aubrey Huff (-1.3 WAR for the year) or Armando Galarraga (0.5 WAR this year). So you get three Ryan Raburn's for Cabrera. If you're lucky, we get close to getting three players to come short of replicating Cabrera's value in an ok year for him. That's a terrible deal. If we traded him for anything, it would be prospects, but then again, that's probably a bad deal as well considering we have him in a very favorable contract.

Cabrera is a guy entering his prime, getting better defensively at a new position, and is worth far more than the contract we're paying him. He's a top five position player in the majors. His value is maybe more significant because of how bad we are at hitting with respect to other competitive teams.

"The Tigers have glaring holes in their lineup and some players on the downslope of their careers."

This is a non sequitur, because Cabrera is irreplaceable in value through trade, except for a ridiculous haul of prospects, should we decide to rebuild, not reload. Where have the Tigers sucked? Corner outfield, back of the rotation. Back of the rotation will replace itself (through the smattering of Galarraga, Robertson, Bonine, Bonderman, Willis, and free agents, we should be able to get two decents to follow the Big Three). What we need is another Cabrera to man a corner outfield position.

"I just can't respect the guy after this. He won't even apologize, just asks for people to respect his privacy. Speaking as a Tigers fan, he ranks as bad as Bonds to me."

I agree he didn't handle himself in the best way. I also agree they should have benched him on Saturday. Additionally, you're entitled to your opinion. HOWEVA, I think a consensus asshole who represents an era in baseball of deceit and ilicit actions, and has lead the average sports fan into perpetual disillusionment with the next generation of power hitters probably scarred the average fan more than Cabrera.

If anything, the fact that he handled himself quite poorly should tell you how ashamed and unused to this type of controversy he is. If anything could scare a guy straight, this would be it. I'm certainly not happy with Cabrera's actions, but hopefully this little episode will understand the burden he has as the leader of this team, and he responds with a big day tomorrow.

leave him alone until he does something newsworthy....livin' in glass houses.....

In terms of sobering up, I think 12 hours is more than enough. I mean he's still in his 20's, a professional athlete, and a dude. That more than likely means he can probably sober up a lot quicker than someone in the normal populace.

But I get what you are saying. I'll be honest I was a bit shocked and upset as well. This guy obviously shouldn't be pulling this crap, but I'm not gonna crucify him or ask that he be traded. Obviously there's some disciplining that is required, but I'm not gonna throw rocks at him, that's all that my original post was saying.

thats why he gets a pass.

cabrera's incident is similar, but actually, less damaging than lou's fiasco. i don't recall people calling to trade lou, who was also an all star.

No World Wide Web back then.

I don't think Cabrera should be traded - that would be an overreaction. But I don't like this rationalization of his behavior. During the most important weekend of the season, he got massively drunk (.26 BAC), so much so that he was probably still somewhat under the influence during the following game (to say nothing of any potential domestic issues that may have resulted). That's not something we should be defending.

If you want to make a workplace analogy, imagine that you had a hugely important presentation to make, which could make or break your company. Could you imagine getting blind stinking drunk 12 hours beforehand?

You and your damn social experiments, I hope you learned a very valuable lesson and as Elno would say "go to bed"

that a guy can get completely wasted the night before one of the biggest games of the season and it's okay and the fan base accepts it and says that it's okay.

These people are not Gods they are human and will make mistakes, but with that said they should be held accountable for their actions. I think that it is safe to say that any of us would be fired if we showed up at work still drunk and had a piss poor performance.

Sure trading him might be a knee jerk reaction, but none of us have any idea how his teammates feel and if I was his teammates I would not be very happy with his actions.