Peppers at 10, which seems low.
OT: Thanksgiving Day Games Open Thread
Fairley has turned it on as of late. Starting to look like a 1st rounder.Defense will be key to winning this game.
Don't forget the Texas-TCU game. Gonna be weird watching the longhorns not play a&m on turkey day. Sad actually.
Thanks I added it. It is sad, but I think A and M would put a beating on Texas this year so the Longhorns saved themselves some embarrassment IMO.
That series is over until UT's AD gets his panties out of a wad. Since A&M left for the SEC, he instructed his coaches to avoid A&M in all sports. It's sad; great rivalry and turkey day tradition.
It's good to see Scheffler and Stafford on the same page early this game. I feel like if they were clicking together last week they would've beat GB.
Suh is a disgrace.
This type of stuff happens all the time. The pile in particular is where grabs, twists, and pokes occur.
That doesn't excuse it, but many players do what Suh does.
They know enough to do it in the pile though, not in the open on the quarterback. Wouldn't be surprised if he's gone for another game given the NFL's emphasis on protecting the QB.
I am a Lions fan and I hate watching Suh. Too much dirty play, it's terrible.
Those side-arms are working well.
If Stafford ever becomes consistent, look out.
Please keep Ball one on one with Megatron.
Listening to these talking heads calling Suh dirty makes me sick. He's a tough football player and that's it. They are completely buying into the new wuss-ified NFL. "Oh, that tackle looked mean.... $75,000! Now do you want to buy this 'Ultimate Hits' video from NFL.com? It's only $19.99!"
You're a fool.
Let me guess... west side of the state... Packers fan?
Oh, nevermind, from Indy so a Colts fan. What the new NFL rules (which HEAVILY favor offenses like yours) and hurt teams who actually like to play defense and tackle aren't being enforced even more to allow even more rediculous passing statistics? Sorry, some fans still like to see smashmouth football, not a bunch of track-stars wearing "Wedding Dress White" uniforms prancing around the field trying to get 500 yards passing a game while missing 1/2 their tackles and trying to win games 48-42!
You do know Stafford threw for like a billion yards last year? Pot meet kettle.
You mean a SuperBowl QB, hall of fame QB, all-pro WR and legendary coach talking heads? That was punk by Suh on the crotch kick. I watched him play for Nebraska alot on tv down here and this is not a new thing for him. Great player but ruins it with unnecessary gsrbage.
Are you actually trying to make the case that he's not dirty, given his history? There's a lot there to excuse. I agree with the point about the hypocrisy of the denunciation and glorification of violence by the networks and the NFL, but this is a different issue. Usually, when someone wins that players' vote of dirtiest player in the NFL, it's because they're ... a pretty dirty player.
Players' voted that Hines Ward was the league's dirtiest player for like 3/5 years for a period. Why? Because defensive players didn't like being put on their butts. Same here, he's a dominate player who puts other players on their butts. I doubt that crotch "kick" was intentional, he was being swung down to the ground at the time and would've had to have had amazing body control to do it intentionally.
Here's Jim Rome's take on Ward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9UVpEvuc4M
That's guys tickets need to be revoked. I've seen him the last few home games. We have no Superbowl rings to show off. This is almost as embarrassing as the playoff banner they have hanging at Ford Field. I love the Lions but dear lord.
I guess everyone assumes Suh has eyes in the back of his head seeing as his head was in the turf when his leg hit Schaubs crotch.... He has had some stupid plays in his career but this is not one of them, for that matter neither were any of the hits on Cutler. Ridiculous.
We all know Suh has made some dirty plays in his 3 year career, but half the plays they showed in that montage at the half were not dirty at all. The media likes to pick on the guy a little too much IMO.
The anti-Suh circle-jerk is in full effect.
WHAT AN IDIOTIC GARBAGE CALL FROM THESE IDIOT OFFICIALS! THREE POINTS OF HIS BODY WERE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HATE THE NFL SO MUCH, GOODELL CAN GO DIE WITH HIS DAMN NEW RULES AND THESE TERRIBLE OFFICIALS!
Give me college football anyday, I am fed up with this increasingly shoddy league.
Please stop posting.
So are the Suh apologists.
How is that not a reviewable call?
What is the point of replay?
What the hell is that horseshit?
Replay rules are fucking stupid.
How is that not a reviewable call??? We must have the replacement refs doing this game.
Scores are AUTOMATICALLY reviewed. They cannot be challenged.
Was the problem that he threw the flag? Somebody please explain this to me
because Schwartz threw his challenge flag...which is a penalty, so it negates the automatic review from upstairs. STUPID RULE!
Seriously, if you want to throw a flag for that, fine. But no replay as a result? Absolutely f'ing ridiculous.
Otherwise we'd see some really bad officiating on the field.
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK.
Been slow on the whistle all game. No excuse for these blown calls... Or lack of blown calls.
I have an awful feeling like that flag is going to cost us this game.
is one of the reasons I absolutely loathe the NFL. This wasn't a flukey call...it was WRITTEN IN THE RULEBOOK that way. How can you give a team a touchdown they didn't earn??? Unbelievable.
It really is complete lunacy.
to complete lunacy, for sure.
This is why I'm fucking sick of the NFL. So stupid.
The next Detroit RB who gets tackled should just get up and keep running and get that TD back.
That really left a bad taste in my mouth after a good meal. They really need to change that rule.
That was terrible. I just texted my buds and forfeited my bets.
Bell is reppin Wayne State...Love that
Why isn't anyone else calling Schwartz a dumbass? He gave the Texans that TD not the refs. How does an NFL coach not know the rules? Especially after a similar play happened last weekend in a different game.
Plain and simple Schwartz is an idiot and cost the Lions that TD.
I wager most coaches would throw a flag immediately on an egregious call like that. The refs totally gave away that TD and the stupid-ass rule about the challenge flag just makes it worse. Plus, that ref was totally wrong...that play IS reviewable, just not by challenge flag.
It's reviewable unless the coach challenges it. How does an NFL coach not know that every TD is reviewed already?
Schwarts F'ed up, you can say the refs screwed up too, thats fine. But bottom line is Schwartz is the one who caused that play not to be reviewed.
Doesn't change the fact that it's a stupid fucking rule.
But it is a stupid rule I would expect an NFL coach to be aware of.
Since they should be aware of this rule, what's stopping a coach from throwing a flag when their own team scores a TD on this kind of play? If Kubiak throws that flag instead of Schwartz, does the TD still stand and the play becomes unreviewable?
As a Texans fan the Lions deserve this game. Totally outplaying the Texans.
Yea its Schwartz fault and he takes most of the blame with the refs, but that's a routine play that should have called dead in the first place by paid professionals.
I actually like them scoring with almost two minutes left and a couple timeouts. Execute a two minute drive to win the game hopefully not leaving to much time on the clock.
Regardless of the outcome, I think this will be the last NFL game I watch this year. Yes, Schwartz should know the rule, full agreement from me. That doesn't make the rule any less absurd. I am sick and tired of supporting the No Fun League, I'm done.
Joke of an overtime... Too bad the media will still be too busy trying to vilify Suh to give proper attention to the failure of the refs and rule book.
Pettigrew fucking sucks
Pound for pound Pettigrew has got to be the weakest player in the league. He is a disgrace.
And how soon we forget Rod Marinelli.
Sees nothing. Hears nothing.
Once again proving to be another awesome Mayhew pick. Stupid Millen crony.
Please please please Lion's hating god, be merciful here.
THANK YOU JEEBUS.
What an electric asshole.
Ouch. That must be embarrasing to be hurdled by a tight end.
Need to sprinkle in a draw play here or there. Way too pass heavy.
That wasn't offsides.
I hate this game so much. I can't believe that FG. :(
I can't even... this day keeps getting better and better. Wonderful.
Time to take my anger out on this turkey. F this game.
Refs be damned, this game should be over. Great teams find ways to win...bad teams find ways to lose.
I can't even fucking believe this.
And Schwartz is a dumbass for challenging that TD. So funny that he was makin fun of Harbaugh last year for doing the same thing. What a clown. Keep fist pumping you loser. Your awesome decisions keep costing the Lions victories.
for having moronic rules. It shouldn't matter that he threw a challenge flag.
He even admitted as much on the sideline. Impulsive decision + Bad judgment = Loss. This coming from the guy screaming "Know the rules, Harbaugh!" across the field.
Fuck that. His actions trickle down to the team and perpetuate the losing mentality.
This is on the guy who doesn't know the coaches last name.
He doesn't have to call him by the proper name. Call him shvitz for all I care, what horrible decisions.
Oh thanksgiving traditions...
There goes the season. Beat Ohio
They've got the 11th pick in the first round, and they want a defensive lineman. Nick Fairley and J.J. Watt are available. They decline to pick Fairley and instead pick Watt, who is a strong candidate for defensive rookie of the year (if the NFL has an award for that).
I don't get what point you're trying to make? First it was the 2011 Draft, not 2012 so Watt isn't a rookie. Second, were the Lions supposed to trade up and get Watt? In hindsight do you think they should have done so? Besides some boneheadedness in the off season, Fairley has been a pretty solid player, especially of late. Watt gets a lot of attention for knocking balls down and being on an elite defensive unit but an average line kept him mostly at bay. He's not an elite pass rusher coming off the edge and his pursuit needs work.
He's been more than pretty good the last few weeks. He's been unstoppable & everywhere: a flat-out beast.
...and the lions have earned their fate, both in this game and in the season, but they've played well enough to beat two very good teams two weeks in a row, & lost it on BS non-call PI late in game would've put them up 2 scores, instead they're up 6 & you knew they were going to lose against a good team then. This week, same: up 2 scores +, instead horrible call (he was down 3 ways!!) anf stupid NFL rule give opponent 7 pts and yards. Lions have earned their 4-7 fate, but, c'mon: you can't say that good teams should just overcome bad officiating costing them a score or more. There's another damn good team out there, and if they get the leg up from officiating, they're going to win 90% of time. They could've been in the race -- & they own much of blame for not being -- but please don't tell me they have _no_one_ to blame but themselves: they also got robbed by bad calls. Happens. But it sure as heck matters that it happened this badly. Twice
No one on this board cares I am sure but WOOHOO Go Skins!!
Go Pats. Throttle the Jets. Twice. Three Times. Four Times. Five.
11 minutes left and they've scored 7 touchdowns. You didn't know how right you were.
I must say, there are some excellent wide receivers in the TCU defensive backfield and Texas has thrown a couple great darts to them in the first half thus far...
The Jets are. A laughing stock.
Remind me of a Sparty NOOO moment now.
This game has the same "rivalry" feel to it as Michigan-northwestern.
it's time to play Tebow. The Jets are complete ass
Down goes Texas.
The Jets are terrible. If you are a Jets fan, I am sorry. It must be tough. Keep fighting that good fight, but I doubt it gets better any time soon.
|1. Notre Dame|
|6. Kansas State|
|9. Texas A&M|
|10. Florida State|
|12. South Carolina|
|--------BCS At-large Cutoff--------|
|15. Oregon State|
|21. Oklahoma State|
|22. Boise State|
|23. Kent State|
and take the B12 autobid. As long as we can get into the Top 14, we'll be more attractive than a poor-travelling KSU who is riding a two-game losing streak.
Why would we want Ok to win out. One loss drops them to 3 losses and their best win is Texas? One loss and their at large hopes are done. Very good chance they will lose another game as well. Vs Ok St. and @ TCU. left.
This makes me sick to be honest. Forsett was down and everyone saw that. If the Lions had hit him while he was down then everyone would be saying "same old dirty Lions." Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I know Schwartz screwed up but it wouldn't have happened if the refs would just do their jobs correctly.