Wow. Lots of big coach news these past few hours
OT: Temple's Al Golden to Miami (YTM), ESPN reports
RR is a great coach and a great guy, but I'm increasingly convinced that he'll be replaced here (why else the wait, you've heard the drill) and think that might be the right choice. If he must go, it would have been wonderful to see him immediatly at another big program.
I was fired now after all the coaching positions are filled I would be very pissed at Brandon. That would be a pretty crappy thing for Brandon to do. RR probably would be considered for all these vacancies if was available.
If a school is interested in RR, it'll contact him. ADs don't just wait around for a guy to be fired. If anything, they'd rather hire the guy before he's fired.
I haven't heard of too many schools stealing coaches from Michigan, though.
It's happened to us plenty of times, just not in football.
I'm not sure he would be considered for all of these spots. He has to be considered damaged goods for all of the reasons we've debated on this board. There is little or nothing negative that can be said about the new hires at Miami and Fla. The lawsuit, the NCAA stuff, and his record will follow him to his next job (assuming the inevitable). If there is a change, he would probabably be best served by waiting one or two years when the memories aren't so fresh. He should also do a better job of evaluating the talent before he takes another job and most importantly, he should get an inkling of the media that awaits him.
After these three years, RR has no chance at all of being considered for these type of jobs.. A Clemson type job as Brian has said maybe, but unless he turns us around next year, the high profile jobs are not in RR's immediate future.
he would be considered for. I don't see how Miami can really be seen any different than Clemson or Pitt at this point. I know they have a great tradition and maybe I am crazy, I just didn't see this as an elite job opening like Florida is.
Golden must not think PSU is an option.
Whatever happened between Miami and John Gruden? I thought the job was his at one point.
Well Golden could always move back to PSU later. Miami is a good school, but they're private and on the small side. If JoePa retires in a few years I'm sure PSU can afford to outbid Miami for Golden. In the meantime Golden gets experience in a strong conference and some Florida recruiting ties.
Depends on the buyout. For instance, apparently Petrino just renegotiated a contract that has an $18 million buyout the first year.
I'm sure Miami is aware of the risk and will cover themselves accordingly.
Haven't people also penciled in Schiano and Bradley at various points?
What?!? But the rumors earlier were that Gruden was accepting the job, how could they be false!
I just want the anti-RR crowd to look at the Florida, Miami, Notre Dame, and the majority of coaching vacancy situations and realize that you don't always (in fact, you rarely ever) get what you want.
Which is why you should try to line up the replacement before announcing the firing, if possible.
Funny how everyone on this site is ripping Brandon for (possibly) doing just that.
I'm certainly not doing that. If, in fact, his plan is to fire RR, he's handling it correctly.
If DB's plan is to terminate RR and bring in a new coach then I think he is handling it correctly, provided he has the replacement all lined up. However, if the plan is to keep RR then I completely disagree with how this process is going
I think we can pretty much rule out the latter possibility. I can't imagine any AD ever doing something like that. Who would force his coach to operate under a cloud of uncertainty while knowing he'll return? There is no advantage to be gained from doing that.
Common sense suggests that Brandon's either made up his mind to fire RR or he's genuinely undecided and wants to make a final decision after the bowl.
It's probably true about not getting what you want, but in all three of those cases, did they NOT get who they wanted? There was some scuttlebutt with Miami, but nothing official on an offer. Florida seemingly got their first choice. And ND got the guy we all said they should take. Not great examples.
He could do well there. But, he's gonna have to lose the shirt and tie unless he wants to pass out from heat exhaustion.
Doesn't work when its 100 degrees.
I think he does it to pay tribute to his mentor, Paterno
You want him to coach topless? Ewwww.
Bunch of babies. Bear Bryant wore a jacket and tie on the sidelines - and a hat!
Looks like the MAC is becoming quite the breeding ground for big time program coaching moves. First Kill gets the Minnesota gig and now Golden goes to Miami.
And yet somehow Ron English still waits..........
Has always been a breeding ground for up and coming big time football coaches from the days of Ara Parsegian (spelled wrong, I know) and Bo Schembechler to the days of Urban Meyer at BG and now Kill and Golden.....
Anyone from the area know about his gravitational pull? I recognize that both Florida and Miami have 'institutional draw,' and I know him and Muschamp are great coaches, but do these guys present a recruiting opening?
Well, Tom Lemming named Al Golden recruiter of the year in 2009. Lemming on UM's hire: "The Hurricanes hit a home run"
Lemming: "3 key things in recruiting: aggressiveness, relentlessness and personality. Al Golden has all in abundance.
This has become a huge off-season for college football. A ton of turn over. Should be interesting to see what else happens over the next month both with head coaches and assistants.
It's an interesting hire, seeing how he has no connections to Miami (at least to my knowledge). It will be interesting to see how well he recruits. Best of luck to him.
Great. That means he will be immune to the Dade/Broward clique, and will treat everyone as equals. If he can balance that with keeping the "fence" Miami has had around Miami Northwestern, Booker T Washington, and Ft Lauderdale St Thomas Aquinas for years, he will do fine there. They do very well with Pahokee "Muck Bowl" rival Glades Central, too.
Miami is a sleeping giant. Butch Davis proved that. The only variable here is that it takes a different skill set to build a National Championship team than it does to turn a Temple into a winner. At least he will have great personnel.
And it means that he doesn't understand the rivalry with FSU blah blah blah......
I wonder if they're talking crap like that on the Miami meassage boards?
The guy who proved Miami was a sleeping giant was Howard Schnellenberger.
Wow, did not expect this hire
Kinda sad that Miami has fallen off that much that they cant get an established BCS coach. They were listing the Monteal CFL coach as on the shortlist earlier.
Additionally, I am dumbfounded by their recruiting so far. Have only 3-4 commits with one a kicker. Starting out in a big hole.
Must not have been wait for Joe to go any longer. Everything that I had heard since spring had him as the next coach at PSU. I certinaly can't see him leaving Miami for PSU once he gets entrenched there.
When has the last good Miami coach ever stayed at that school. The population does not support the team and they have bad facilities. The best thing they have going for them is being in South Fla and who wouldnt want to go to school in South Fla. But i think Coaches know its a job where you will be able to move on to bigger and better things if all goes well. So i definetly could see him leaving Miami for PSU and it might be a couple years before Joe Pa retires.
I am from Miami and have followed the Canes as long as I can remember and I have to disagree with your assessment. A good coach in the talent-rich South Florida area is more likely to win championships than any or most coaches at PSU. Coaches rarely leave Miami, they get fired.
Now, whether Golden leaves for PSU for personal reasons or because of ties to the university that is a different thing. But the likelihood of winning championships are more likely in Miami than PSU, hands down. It's still the university that has sent the most players to the NFL in the nation.
And it's not even close. http://drafthistory.com/n_college/college_n.html Michigan has sent more players than Miami.
And lots of coaches used to leave Miami...for the NFL. You're living in a time when FSU was still overcoming being the "girl's college" and Florida was still mediocre. The only way Miami becomes a premiere job again is for those teams to start tanking. Florida has a lot of talent, but it's generally only supported one elite program, one real good program, and one so-so team at any time. And Miami has been third for awhile.
I misspoke. My apologies; my thoughts were along the lines of most first round NFL picks. Early in this decade Miami had four first-rounders in 2001, five in 2002, four in 2003 and an N.F.L.-record six in 2004. They may be in a lull at this moment but all it will take is good coaching for this team to come right back up. To say Miami is a stepping stone to PSU is laughable - unless, as I said previously, the individual is doing it for personal reasons or ties to the university.
Other than Shannon and Coker which coaches have been fired?
Pretty sure Schellenberger left on his own. Johnson left to go to the pros. Butch Davis left to go to the pros. Erickson left for the pros.
It seems the coaches who have success move on, and the coaches who don't have success get fired.
leave to go to the pros as well? I think it was a USFL gig.
LeBron does NOT agree with you.
That job is turning into a revolving door
Golden's hair in in the realm of Gerg
But apparently Luther Campbell tweeted that Randy Shannon is going to be the new DC at Texas
He love him some Randy Shannon long time!
Did anyone else know that Randy Shannon was a freak without warning? I certainly did not....