OT: Tatar to Vegas

Submitted by HHW on

Wings get 1st rounder in '18, 2nd rounder in '19, and 3rd in '21.

 

Not bad imo.  $5+ million off the cap.

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Monocle Smile

February 26th, 2018 at 5:44 PM ^

This is an excellent move (well, could be, as long as Holland doesn't screw up handling the draft picks), but it's also a sign that the Wings have given up playoff hopes despite being only five points behind Columbus.

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Kevin13

February 26th, 2018 at 5:51 PM ^

is actually a lot to make up in less about 20 games. If your a Wings fan you should want to see them try to rebuild. They are not a threat to win a cup let alone a playoff series. Being last team in and first team out of the playoffs every year doesn't help you for future years.  There comes a time you need to totally revamp and start new and that is where the Wings are.

I have seen my teams do the same thing, but can slowly see the progress being made and know they are getting closer all the time, instead of spinning their wheels.

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Navy Wolverine

February 26th, 2018 at 7:16 PM ^

The Wings have 62 points with 20 games to play. They need to reach at least 90 points to even have any chance of sneaking into the playoffs. That means they would need to go something like 13-5-2 to finish the season. With this team averaging 1 point per game and playing 9 out of the next 10 on the road, I don't see that happening. They really blew a golden opportunity to get back in the race during the last couple of weeks by leaving points on the table (losing with 0.2 seconds left, blowing a 3 goal lead, etc.) while NYI, NYR, Carolina and CBJ have been struggling. Of course if they do somehow manage to sneak in as the #8 seed, Tampa will run them out in 4 straight any way. Time to play the kids, get them some game experience and maneuver for the best draft pick possible (with some luck).

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Maize N' Ute

February 26th, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^

Yet, Green is still on this team. I’m guessing KH is planning something through the waiver, but there’s zero excuses that he wasn’t traded. Even with an injury that might have lessened his value, he should have been gone.

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sealedseven

February 27th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^

They now say he was open to any trade, likely to only contenders but was open. I believe they didn't want to trade him for less when they could just resign him and get similar return. (which is stupid)

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Jfhskhx

February 26th, 2018 at 6:11 PM ^

Seems like a good return to me. I didn’t think they would get a first rounder, but that is based more off of NBA and baseball trade expectations.

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Justibro

February 26th, 2018 at 6:14 PM ^

I always had high hopes for Tatar to be a top line or very solid 2nd line player but always seemed to just be off of that true break out. Hopefully Vegas brings out his full potential and hopefully we turn the 1st round pick into a great player for a quick turn around. But I will also like to see more of the youth brung up since they have been doing a solid job in the chances they have gotten. 

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Hotel Putingrad

February 26th, 2018 at 6:40 PM ^

I really thought they might dangle Athanasiou and DeKeyser as a package deal. Nyquist wasn't going anywhere because of the "no Swedes" trading policy. Greens neck injurybcost us an extra first rounder. Now bring up Svechnikov and Hronek and see what they can do.

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SF Wolverine

February 26th, 2018 at 7:06 PM ^

Too Bad Green got hurt; he woudl likely have landed another second-rounder+ and now they get nothing.  But lots of picks in next two drafts, so Holland needs to deliver.

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Ceal

February 26th, 2018 at 7:18 PM ^

being vegas has the best record (or right there) in a year that the west is not that strong, the picks are going to be at the very end of the round.    The talent in this years draft is deep, but any taken outside of the top 10 are going to be developmental players.    If the Wings can get their own 1rst round pick up in the top 5, then we really win on this.   I see Dahlin as a organizational changer for whoever lands him.   Svechnikov, Zadina, and Tkachuk will likely be in the NHL next year, but everyone else I watch that is projected first round will likely need some more time to develop before they make it to the show.    Of course there will be a few that really make a jump before draft day.    

I see zero chance for the wings moving up in the first round tho.    Only way any team would even consider trading a top 5 pick is with a young stud and draft picks.    I think the only player the wings have that would fit that is Mantha, and we should not ever let him go IMO.   

I do give this deal a B+/A-, but think its going to take 3 or 4 years to see it make a real impact for us.   I also really would have liked to see us dump more salary with players like Abs, Howard, Nyquist, but there probably was just not enough interest in any of these.   Maybe we can pursue some more trades in the offseason, as I would like to see us still pile up a few more draft picks.   We simply have to many big contracts with players that are not going to make it thru this rebuild.    

And my real take from today, is WTF did we ever let Stevie Y slip away?    That guy showed again today that he is the best GM in the league.    Dammit Holland!    Just blow it up and get us some young talent!

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BuckNekked

February 27th, 2018 at 4:44 AM ^

Franchise altering fuck you from Holland. Before Yzerman took the Tampa job the Wings wanted Holland to move up leaving the GM spot open for Yzerman. Holland said no and Yzerman left. I hate that Holland is our GM. One bad contract after another, one overpay after another. We pay top dollar for dime a dozen guys like Abbie and Helm and Dekeyser. And then further cripple ourselves with aging veterans with little to offer a team that obviously has needed to rebuild for the last 5 years. Fuck Holland.

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BOX House

February 26th, 2018 at 8:58 PM ^

Vegas is an incredible story, gonna be rooting for them in the playoffs. Seems like a pretty good fit for Tatar - he is more of a second-third line contributor than the first line guy the Wings originally expected him to be

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MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 27th, 2018 at 9:07 AM ^

He's already got three wins and the Flyers are on top of their division.  Unless they collapse spectacularly or Mrazek gets hurt, the 4th is easily going to become a 3rd.  That was always a very easy condition to meet.  Next, they need to win two playoff series with Mrazek in net.

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MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 26th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^

Worth noting that the 2nd-round pick we get from Vegas next year is actually the Islanders' pick that they traded to VGK last summer.  The Islanders are already pretty bad and that pick is in the upper half of the draft rather than next-to-last (if the pick were this year.)  If and when they lose Tavares this coming offseason, they're going straight into the crapper and the pick will likely be close to the first round.

Solid maneuvering by Kenny on this one.  Wish he would've been able to pull the trigger on some more trades, but the one he did make looks good.  I still think Tatar is a prime candidate to blossom big-time under different coaching, though.

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1201 S. Main St.

February 27th, 2018 at 7:17 AM ^

Was that Yzerman had his deal with the Rangers in place for some time and kept the Wings and Senators engaged in trade talks about Green/Karlsson so that Tampa's competitors had little room/time to trade for one of them.  Not sure how true it is, but it's pretty savvy if true.  Either way, moving Tatar hurts, but you cannot argue with what they got.  Still baffled on how they didn't trade Green.

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Footdog

February 27th, 2018 at 8:19 AM ^

Quite ok with this move. Thought it might end up being Zetterburg but i don't think they would have gotten as much with him being long in the tooth.

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