OT: Talking Cars Tuesday - Your big mistake
Nobody's perfect. To err is human. To accidentally hit the gas half a second early and drive your Jeep into a mud hole too fast, having water suck its way into the engine (thanks Jeep engineer who put the air intake facing down on the YJ!) and killing your Jeep? That's a mistake. That's how my YJ died*.
Maybe you got swindled by a dealer, maybe you bought the F Series or the extended warranty , maybe you sold your coupe when you had kids because "you can always get another". What's your biggest automotive mistake?
*The YJ was brought back to life... I eventually got her running again but the engine needed a rebuild. It burned through about a quart of oil every 100 miles. Sold it to someone who didn't mind rebuilding the engine and bought the TJ.
Have to sell it? What car?!? Did you get it in writing that you can try again someday?
I get the money pit issues, but when you said "dream car" and "small child" I was picturing a 2-seat convertible, or soemthing with with rear "seats". A (working) WRX is actually a decent family car! 4WD! Rear Doors! (maybe) a hatchback!
Love my Miata as you all well know, probably ad nauseum. But the Mr. 2 looks like a hell of a vehicle. I've never driven one, but with a mid mount engine, targa top, and a stick, how can you go wrong?
Buying a Cobalt instead of a Solstice or Sky when I was young and didn't have any family or money obligations. Now I'm going to have to wait until my mid life crisis.
At least my fiance has already approved of a Viper when that happens.
Just make sure that the fiance doesn't up your life insurance before you buy... early Vipers have a reputation to uphold
It's actually her dream car. I have told her that she will know the day we have hit it big because I'll just go out and buy the Viper immediately.
I had an early poster of a concept viper in my bedroom as a middle schooler. The sidepipes on that thing were righteous.
I was amazed when Dodge built it. Loved the attitude. A little annoyed by the people saying 'It's not a good car, it gets horsepower through lots of displacement'.
I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Even though I knew a guy who almost killed himself in one.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^
And that is why you NEVER pass in the right lane. Especially a semi!
I had a girlfriend who hated my beater Volvo 164 (great car, except the roof leaked and the floor boards rusted through, etc.). She cajoled me into buying a Pugeot 504 without having a mechanic check it out. Needed a head gasket, and much more, so I doubt I got 50 miles out of the thing.
So yeah - that was a mistake!
Things didn't work out with the girlfriend, but she was great. Just not right for me long term.
The car was neither great nor right for me long term.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
I can see someone saying 'Get rid of the Volvo and buy....depending on their bent (want something sporty or practical)
A camry
A WRX
A Camaro
An Accord...
but a Peugot???
Right before gas went into the $4/gal + range. Couldn't give that thing away for about 2 years.
Awesome truck though. My favorite one I've owned so far.
I bought a TDI. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
Now it's rusting in the Silverdome parking lot.
Easy one for me. Was in the process of getting back with an ex-girlfriend (mistake #1) and met her and some friends out to play pool. Drank waaaay too much (mistake #2) and decided to drive home. (Mistake #3). Got all the way back to her appt. complex and decided to show boat in my souped up Eagle Talon (Nothing crazy, but would run high 13's low 14's depending on the day, so fast enough to get you in a bit of trouble). Not sure what happened but completely lost control of the car, sent a fire hydrant flying and crashed into a tree. (Mistake #4). Spent the night in the Troy PD with a bunch of passed out drunks in a tiny cell. Completely totalled my car and tore my ACL in the process. Luckily, the most harm I caused was to myself and my car. No one else injured. Needless to say, I changed my perspective on drinking and driving after that. So morale of the story? Get a cab and save yourself the trouble.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:02 AM ^
Good share. You had to learn by experience, but you learned, and thank God no one was hurt. Hopefully some of the younger MgoCarLovers out there will read it and learn. :-)
I never drank and drove much, but there were a few times I did that now scare me to think about.
The worst was driving home from downriver Detroit to my place in southern Oakland County. I was so drunk I was sick, and I couldn't focus properly. How I didn't kill myself, or at least get stopped by the cops, is a total mystery - especially when I pulled over on I-75 at the Rouge River Bridge because I had to throw up.
There's an old saying that "God protects, drunks, fools, and small children." I was two of those that night.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
Fun, but very unreliable, little hatchback that VW sold for a handful of years in the early 90's. Becuase they didn't make many of these cars, parts were hard to find and expensive.
Found it for sale in 1997 on the Corrado Club of America website. It was in Boston, I was in Philly. I had to go up to Boston for work, so one night I drove to the Boston burbs and saw the car. Gave the guy a deposit and told him I'd be back the next weekend to pick it up. Never had a mechanic check it out...lesson learned.
I paid $12,500 for the car. Over the course of 10 months of ownership I made $2,500 of payments on the loan, put another $2,500 into the car for maintenance. Ultimately, I decided I just couldn't afford to keep the car, so managed to find a buyer who amazingly paid $12,000. After I sold the car, but before the buyer picked it up, the fuel pump failed, so I had to replace that. Day after the sale was final, I got a call from the buyer asking if there was a trick to starting the car becuase they were unable to get it to turn over.
That maintenance experience scarred me and I went as bland as possible for my car. I leased 1998 Toyota Corolla. It was boring, but gave me 0 issues over three years.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
Almost bought a new Corrado but opted for an Audi A5 I think. Glad I did I guess.
March 28th, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^
and I get that. I couldnt bring myself to buy one. But I've recommended them a ton. I think they may be the best automotive engineering company (Sorry JB). I've known people who put 200K on them and barely do d*ck beyond change the oil..
As mentioned, Toyota is very good at what they do - making reliable transportation. My company supplies Toyota (as every major auto supplier supplies everybody. My plant has parts in many Toyotas)
HOWEVA - they make cars for a huge majority of drivers, of which I do not consider myself. For most people a car is a way to get from point A to point B. Toyotas do that wonderfully. Toyotas have next to zero fun and passion (aside from the GT86 and the 4Runner... what Toyota would you describe as "Fun"?) The other thing that is missing for me from Toyota is innovation. Toyota is JUST launching production turbochargers. Up until they put a CVT in the 2016, Corollas still came with a 20 year old 4 speed transmission. Toyota is very conservative by design - it obviously works for them - but it's boring. In commercials they'll say that the Camry is "sporty" and that the Carolla is "great on gas" but they don't back it up with reality. That 4 speed Carolla was getting 34mpg highway while Focuses and Civics were pushing 40+. But hey, they want to sell cars and they do that very well!
picking up new bits of info. I used to follow the industry really closely. Not so much anymore. The 4speed automatic is a hell of a shocker to me. Wow, that's old tech.
As you said, it works for them, and as a guy completely smitten with the old 4.0 liter straight 6 I respect keeping old, durable tech around that works. But I would have never figured Toyota for that.
Thanks!
March 28th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^
The first car I bought was also the first car I owned with front wheel drive: a Mercury LN7. Ok, it was a Ford Escort mascarading as a sports car, but it's what I could afford. So, I'm driving this car in the snow for the first time and it seems to be tracking along quite well, inspiring confidence. I turn to the left and the car keeps going straight...right into a curb. I had the wheels turned at the time, so the right front wheel broadsides into the curb. The suspension gets bent pretty bad. I later learned that the frame got bent, too. I kept the car a few more years, but it was never the same. It chewed up front right tires every 10,000 miles.
I became a devotee of snow tires after that incident.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
Bought the Pantera new and it was in the shop about 10 of the next 13 months until I could finally sell it (even then, I had to duct tape a hose shortly before the guy who bought it showed up for the test drive). Sold my M3 convertible when my youngest daughter was about to turn 4 so that we could have a more family friendly car, but it was a great and very fun car that I should have kept forever.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
Driving an X5 and was playing with all the fancy buttons, looked up, and boom goes the dynamite! Rear ended a Lincoln Navigator. Everyone was fine, the car had $12,000 worth of damage to the front end. Ruined the clean carfax report, so I figured I had to buy it.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^
back in the day. I swear that car was put together with tape and gum. The drive train actually fell out of the car one day at a stop sign. Seems alll I did was put money into that car to keep it running.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
My wife's family had a similar car. She was trying to park it and could not get it close to the curb. Something had let loose in the rear and the car had 4 wheel steering without the ability to actually steer the rear wheels.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:11 AM ^
I once drank two pitchers of beer and got in a car. The good news is, I wasn't driving; my friend drove me home. The bad news is, he had three pitchers of beer. Easily the dumbest thing I've ever done involving a car.
The next morning he called me up and told me he'd gotten in a fender bender that morning while getting breakfast. Lucky that didn't happen last night, I said. Yup, he said. Later on he admitted that was a fib - he actually had gotten in a fender bender that night, after dropping me off, and how he got out of a DUI, I still don't remember.
It wasn't me doing the drinking and driving, but you might as well smack me in the face anyway for being complicit. Lesson definitely learned.
March 28th, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
You're very lucky. I had a friend learn that lesson in a much worse way when we were in high school. He killed his friend and lost one of his legs.
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Never a really bad experience. There was that 1981 Eagle Wagon but it was a blacked out 4x4 so while it was the not the best I would not call it a bust. This is like it but mine was black.
I've driven trucks and fun cars most of my life but more trucks than anything. I love trucks but not the monster full sized trucks. I have had:
Mid '60's 3/4 ton Chevy - trusty and rusty - my first car
Early 70's Datsun pickup - tight as hell inside but fun to drive in anything but snow. Rusty, unlike this one
Late 1980's Jeep Comanche Eliminator - great size fast truck, maybe my favorite. This was exactly like mine except I peeled off the eliminator sticker
90's Dodge Dakota - meh
90's Chevy S10 - 6 cyl but still handled like shit. Felt like a land yacht. Worst pickup of the bunch
90's Silverado - ok
2005 Chevy Colorado crew cab 4x4 - drove it for 10 years, nice size performed well, not fast but it was one of the nicer trucks I have owned.
2015 Silverado extended cab 4x4 - Waaay to big. Nice driving experience but it is like driving a bus. $6k prepaid 2 year lease that is coming due.
I am in the market for a new truck and would kill for the new Jeep
or
Huyandi Santa Cruz any of the other small pickup
The Chevy Colorado's are okay but push $30k
March 28th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
It's hard to choose just one.
My first car was a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. I basically abandoned it (for reasons too personal and complicated to get into here) after owning it for a few years. I think it only had about 65k on it at the time.
I bought a used 1998 Jaguar XJ8. That had over 100k on it. I owned it for a few years and spent more on fixing it than I paid for it (a fucking transmission should not crap out at 125K). I eventually dumped it on some poor sap for about $2,500. I still miss this car though. It was sexy as hell and awesome to drive when it was running.
I leased a loaded 99 Mazda Miata and turned it in WAY under the mileage. I should have bought the car at the end of the lease.
I sold my 76 Torino when gas hit about $4 per gallon. It had a Lincoln 460 V8 crammed into it and was fast as hell, while getting about 6 MPG.
March 28th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
So back when gas prices surged over $4/gal for regular (somewhere around 2011) I had a nice 2003 3.0 liter V6 sedan and thought that maybe it was time to upgrade to a hybrid. Was looking for something around $30-40k. A nice luxury hybrid vehicle. So i went around car shopping for a few months. Did all my research and comparisons. And after about 6 months of shopping around seeing all these cars, gas prices dropped big time and was back to normal around $2 and change or something. The shopping continued because i was already in too deep. What did I end up with? A fully loaded 2011 Jaguar XJ Supercharged (5.0L V8 engine).
Now, to be clear, I absolutely loved this car when it came out. And still do. Very happy i bougtht it. Always catches my eye on the road even though I am in one myself. So I guess it isn't really a mistake but the mistake was looking for a car around $30k and not successfuly getting even close to that.
Car buyer beware, once you go from 30k and talk yourself to 35k, you'll later talk yourself to 40k then from 40k to 45k, and on and on etc..
March 28th, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^
I took my old ass Infiniti in to the dealer to have the heater replaced. They gave me a G37x as a loaner and let me keep it for a couple days.
Guess what I bought, even though I didn't need a new car.
March 28th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^
You bought it because they are frickin amazing cars. If I ever meet you I'm going to give you a big hug for reccomending that one to me.
haha that's pretty bad and awesome at the same time.
Pretty funny, my coworker that sits near me and had a small part in the shopping process got so used to looking at cars online with me that he found something he liked and bought a new car like a month after i got mine. His car at the time was like 3 years old (Cobalt).
March 28th, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^
I bought some Audi's in the 80's and 90's. My perspective on cost is still stuck there. So each time I get less car/truck for the money. Lease needs to be about $250-$275 and new cars about $25k limit. So from higher end Audi's to a econo box in a few more years. Once they get neat $30k or $275+ on a lease with nothing down - I back off. I guess I am just a cheap fuck now.
I almost exclusively buy used because the amount of money they want for a car is insane.
I wish, though I know why they won't (no one would buy them), that manufacturers would offer a car like my cousin's '85 Tercel. 1.5 liter engine, 5 speed, roll down windows, canvas floors, AM/FM radio (with Cassette!) and 4 speakers.
Done.
Reliable, economical, no frills, easy to fix. Give it the option of part time 4wd and I'm in heaven.
stupid double post.
- 1.4L Turbo
- Manual Trans
- No AC
- 4WD Option (extra $2K)
- $18K
I give you... the Jeep Renegade Sport!
http://www.jeep.com/renegade.html/
I almost exclusively buy used because the amount of money they want for a car is insane.
I wish, though I know why they won't (no one would buy them), that manufacturers would offer a car like my cousin's '85 Tercel. 1.5 liter engine, 5 speed, roll down windows, canvas floors, AM/FM radio (with Cassette!) and 4 speakers.
Done.
Reliable, economical, no frills, easy to fix. Give it the option of part time 4wd and I'm in heaven.
Well I guess I'm off to a good start. This was actually the first car I've purchased.
Hopefully I can keep a level head like you as I get older.