OT- Take on #deflategate
This Boston Barstool Sports Blogger says it's a conspiracy. An excerpt from his article:
"But rather than do that the Colts risked playing at a disadvantage. Why? The answer is twofold. 1. Deflated balls don’t make a lick of difference and #2 the Colts knew they had no shot beating us anyway. This was their only weapon. Not to win on the field, but to tattle on us after the fact. That’s how pathetic they are. They just did it because that’s what kids who get shoved in lockers do. They can’t stand up to us on the field so they wait till there are tucked safely in their beds in Indy to open their mouths. They hate us cause they ain’t us."
That's the paragraph that that got me.
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I thought some of you that aren't 100% tired of deflate gate might enjoy this off the wall take on the situation. If there is anybody that isn't tired of it.
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January 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
I just thougth the paragraph I quoted was funny. Rather than just quote the article, I linked it as well, becasue I knew somebody would want the link anyway. +1 for you anyway. Thanks for commenting.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
At this point I hate media who keep talking about deflategate far more than I ever would have been at a team for actually doing it. I'm starting to believe the NFL really did want this to happen so they could get a nice drama/ratings boost for the Super Bowl.
GOOD GUY RUSSELL WILSON VS EVIL TOM BRADY AND LORD BELICHICK
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
As Ndamukong Suh said, in his all time greatest interview "Evil prevails."
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
Go Lions! Beat the Pats!
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
Your phrasing implies that you, in fact, do care somewhat.
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
Barstool= auto-neg
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
Did not know that. I guess if I end a post by wondering if I suck or not, better to not post. Was kind of answering my own question there wasn't I.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
Edit title from "funny take" to "a take".
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
done...even though I still think it's funny.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
maybe he really DIDN'T know. Just like all the refs who apparently didn't know when they inspected the balls pregame, or on any given play during the play. Just like every other player that touched the balls during the game.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
He did know but doesn't want to miss the SB
January 23rd, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^
1) What I think a lot of the commentators are missing is correlating the feel to the allowable psi number. When I dribble a basketball or grip (not squeeze) a football, I don't think, "oh, this ball is 13 psi." I think "it feels good" or "this is too hard/soft/slick". I don't think twice about the psi. And based on conversations I've had with more experienced ball handlers (stop it) most others don't either. So to say that Brady would have to know a ball was 11 psi as opposed to 12.5 doesn't hold water. I think it's fair to say he'd know it was soft or hard, but if you're not thinking abou the actual numbers, I'd be willing to bet that when he's choosing balls pre-game, he picks them up, flips them around a bit, then says, "I like this one/I don't like this one." My strong suspicion is that no one actually checks the numbers but the equipment managers.
2) Having a pretty solid QC/PC background, I'd be interested to know how the league calibrates the pressure gauges used in measuring balls. Might seem like an arcane point, but if you go into a hardware and put 10 levels on the same surface, you'll get at least 5 different readings. Same with compasses, though less deviation there. I've also seen it in tire gauges. Without a standardized procedure for calibrating the air pressure gauges used in testing the balls, there's no way to determine one reading's accuracy over another.
I understand that the NFL talking heads aren't hired for their analytical abilities, but I don't understand why these issues aren't being addressed more.
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:05 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^
I'm amazed that I have not yet seen someone ask if Brady was "aware, but not fully aware". Did i just miss it or has no one made that connection yet?
January 23rd, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^
The topic (deflated balls) is pretty goofy, I'll admit. But it gets into a darker side of sports which is where there is a real problem. A couple of articles that start to make a few connections are at the end.
Succinctly, there is a conflict of interest with a win-at-all-costs mentality, the massive protected revenues obtainable through antitrust exemption, a commissioner hired by the owners of the league, 'independent' investigators with established league relationships hired by the league, and so on. The balls (heh, balls) themselves are symptomatic of larger possible corruption that threatens the product that we see on the field. I don't personally care about the weight of a ball, yet I do care that when I'm watching the fourth quarter of my team vs. the other team, the outcome is not pre-determined. It seems far-fetched to use deflated balls as a lead-in to match-fixing, but we were just talking about match-fixing leading up to the World Cup this year. There's a preposterous amount of money in the system, with heavy financial interests in outcomes going a certain way, for there not to be efforts to tip the balance one way or another.
I have never played quarterback competitively yet I know what a hard NFL football feels like vs. a softer one (with firmer being harder to grip and throw). It's rather unbelievable that one could claim that you don't know the difference.
I'm interested to see where this ends up in the weeks following the Super Bowl. I'm as big a Brady fan as there is, yet someone somehow should roll for this if we are to truly believe in the integrity of the sport. Otherwise it'll slowly devolve into the WWE with pads, knowingly or not, and the public will cease to believe in the institution as a passtime.
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http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/17/roger-goodell-spygate-ray-rice-arlen-s…
http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2014/0…
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-un…
January 23rd, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^
Nobody in the video below, including a former college QB, could tell the difference between a ball with 13.5 and a ball with 10.5 PSI. 3 of the 4 "civilians" guessed wrong on which was which and the college QB said he couldn't tell any difference.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
This is awful. It's particularly sad that in an article about his team's rightousness he's comparing his same team to bullies shoving kids into lockers.
I'm all for sports fandom but you can't let it suck you in so deep that you lose perspective or stop paying attention to real life.
The New England Patriots are not on a quest to throw a magical ring into a mountain to protect his fans from darkness. People like this guy need to lighten up, check in on the actual world on occasion, and not assume everyone is going to agree with every mouth-breathing idea they put forth to defend their FUBAHHH team.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
for "not admitting" to constructively ensuring the balls were deflated. You have no clue whatsoever regarding how the balls were two pounds per square inch short of the mark. No one does, and the NFL is investigating. Given Brady's long career of performing at a high level with class, and as a respresentative of Michigan football, I would expect he should warrant some respect from you. No, Brady did not "have" to know, and you have no tangible argument to make against his integrity.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^
this involved a former OSU quarterback, do we really think this Board would read the same?
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:09 PM ^
If this involved a former OSU quarterback we would be talking about the arena league, and when that day comes I probably sign off for good
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/22/deflategate-colts-dqwell-jackson-inter…
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:10 PM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
Hey mods - can we get a "Deflate-gate" open thread? This is a VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC (I know it's an important topic because ESPN has 6-7 stories on it per hour) and we all need the latest updates, comedy, denials and whatnot the minute they occur.
I know for me only our recent coaching search rivals this subject in terms of importance. Check that - this subject is more imporant than ANYTHING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE ENTIRE CIVILIZED WORLD and must be treated as such.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
JESUS CHRIST
STOP CALLING IT "DEFLATE-GATE." You sound like a total jackass when doing so. Also, this topic needs to fucking die right now. It's sad and pathetic that this has been a topic all week. The outcome would not have changed. Let it go.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:28 PM ^
Love Simmons or hate Simmons, he does have some entertaining writers on the staff at Grantland.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
Yeah. Nice re-write of history there. Turns out that the Colts reported that they did this in November and the league did nothing. Zippo. Then the Colts reported it at HALFTIME of the AFC Championship game after they intercepted an obviously flat football.
The Pats are collectively starting to sound like Lance Armstrong used to, alternating between an overly unemotional monotone denial and hysterical criticism of anyone who points out that they cheated. Hmmmmm.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^
Not even remotely true
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
Except it is.
"Sources earlier this season told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the Colts had concerns about underinflated balls after their regular-season game against the visiting Patriots on Nov. 16."
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^
...I don't know what the league could do. If they didn't inspect the balls in November, then it's just an allegation and the Pats wouldn't be considered a repeat offender of that violation.
Can't the NFL interview the team attendant that was just fired, talk to Brady and then fine him a game check and move on? There's no way someone is going to deflate the balls without the future Hall of Famer's approval since he would be affected the most. And there's no way the NFL will suspend Brady for the Super Bowl.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
This is a serious issue. We are talking about 13,790 N/m^2 less air pressure than what is required. Clearly this is a gross violation of the NFL rules and the New England team should be punished. The only question is how punative should the damages levied against them be?
/s
January 23rd, 2015 at 8:02 PM ^
At this point - we'll just to wait for the official report - best random theory so far - that it was warm air (not room temp) that was used to inflate which is why efforts to replicate the PSI drop failed.
Anyway it should make some good questions for kids learning the ideal gas law.
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^
Not sure why this is still a topic. JMO
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^
MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
this is even a topic.