He pretty much already did. We had a great stop there.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
He pretty much already did. We had a great stop there.
I didn't know Narduzzi was also D cordinator of the lions.
The lions are the michigan state of the nfl. Cheap team taking cheap shots all game. Suh is the ghosten of the nfl. Both punks who should be suspended and who id be embarrased to be a fan of. Also they are the little brother to the packers. Never going to be up to par to the greatest franchise in the nfl. Last but not least, what an embarrasing showing of the fans. 3/4 of the stadium was emptied by the end of the game. Terrible fan showing in detroit, just like in east lansing. GO PACK 11-0!!
If anyone is acting like a Sparty it is you.
Actually you sound like a Spartan AND Buckeye.
Talking trash after a win is the act of a pathetic person. I find your behavior to be very anti-michigan.
of the guy from Nebraska that tackled Fitz way out of bounds last week. Show some control. Go Blue! Beat ohio
While they don't get as flagrant as Suh, these chumps have made their reputations by, Polamalu's case, laying out receivers who are easy targets and can't adjust to hits, and in Ward's case, laying out blockers and receivers from the blind side.
The Lions already are known as a dirty team. Suh's stunt today will make that reputation almost impossible to shake.
If the organization wants to show that they are not dirty, at least condoning dirty, they should suspend him for one game. That was dumb.
He does it time and time again. I'm beginning to wonder if he actually helps or hurts our team???
A suspension is likely forthcoming.
I understand what Suh's trying to do and what he's done for this team as far as attitude and presence but its gotta stop somewhere. I'm a huge Suh fan and this is just getting ridiculous. Just play the game and leave the extra crap out of here. The refs are already against us. Geez!
Suh needs to grow up.
can't believe the buckeyes missed on that guy.
guy is absolutely classless.
God, I was just arguing with my friend, who's a Chicago Bears fan, that Suh isn't a dirty player. He just plays hard and is physically more dominant than other players. But that play is inexcusable. That was horrible.
Did you tell your friend he was right?
No, not at the time. He's an idiot. But yeah, he's got a better argument now.
Suh is playing like a manchild. Strong, lots of motor but he makes dumb decisions. He doesn't have that self control to pull up on some hits and he doesn't appear to be a great student of the game in that he bites on a lot of fakes.
It's not just Suh though, it's been something I've been unhappy about the entire Detroit defense. Even the vets are taking all kinds of "hands to face" and "personal foul" penalties and they have all season.
We have a good defense but we are going to have a great defense then Cunningham is going to have to work on discpline and film study in the offseason.
Suh's going to eat a suspension now and hopefully that encourages him to get his head on straight.
What did he do?
He got taken to the ground on a block. Gets mad. So he shoves the guy's head down against the ground a few times and then kicks/steps on him as he gets up.
It was basically a 300 pound manchild having a temper tantrum because he had his feet taken out. He's been borderline all game on the hits and finally blew his gasket. For what its worth it didn't look like premediated dirty, so much as just lashing out after getting flattened. He definitely deserves the ejection and the fine though.
...no stomping rules seem to change every year. Time to schedule another meeting with Goodell to go through the nuances.
....the Lions had just stopped GB on a 3rd and goal. The play was over. GB then scores a TD after the personal foul penalty and goes up 14-0 instead of 10-0.
Suh's actions actually reminded me a lot of the State game, but probably worse. He fully deserved to get thrown out of the game and probably deserves a suspension.
But really, Lions. They should be winning this game.
I disagree, I think the Lions score reflects exactly how we are playing. Stafford clearly can't throw and I am starting to think we should put Hill in. That one interception he threw into TRIPLE coverage too.
And as I type, our Michigan lovechild just picks him off. At least Woodson is having a good day!
Suh is playing like a complete idiot. He has 0 self control.
what did he do now?
It was a terrible decision by Suh. He needs to settle down because he is hurting the team wth his lack of self control. HOWEVA, these refs have made some terrible calls against the Lions and Green Bay is benefitting from them. That roughing the passer call against Vanden Bosch was atrocious as was the PI in the endzone.
I find it interesting that the refs have not called anything since Suh got ejected. His ejection was right and he'll probably get suspended, but as a Lions fan, I agree that this officiating has been pure garbage. If this crew ends up doing the Super Bowl, it's going to be a crapfest.
are suppose to be leaders. What a disappointment the both of them are to the fans!
Stafford is throwing the ball without his index finger on the ball and his performance is suffering but he is still a leader. Suh is being immature and is definitely not being an affective leader.
affective. He shows too much affect, actually. Not very effective though.
If it his second personal foul? Yes. You are reaching.
you sure you didn't mean to put this on RCMB?
a stupid hypothetical, because Rodgers isn't a total idiot. Suh's "bad boy" thing is so played out, he's killing his team.
No one will ever know because he doesn't do that. That's the point! While there may be some inequalities, just fucking get your head on and don't stomp on the freakin' guy and any potential inequality in reffing is moot.
I had to turn the game off. I'll check back with it later on but I just can't take it. Stafford and the O are sleep walking to start the game as usual. The D is playing well but getting bone-head penalties.
Suh's antics have become tiresome.
Clearly Suh was expression frustrations over being exposed to a Nickleback performance live.
The guys really an idiot. He needs to grow up and chill out before he really hurts somebody.
...is he just that good?
I still love the guy, people are going to be afraid of this defense in the coming years and Suh will be a big reason for that. It's Football people, its a tough game.
are you a big tom gholston fan as well?
Yeah...in no way was that football, and he deserved to be ejected (and fined)
Excuse Me Phil but I wasn't condoning the actions of Suh. I'll agree it was a tasteless move. It was dirty. HOWEVER football is a tough game, sometimes emotions get out of control. He's still the best defensive tackle in the league. He's still a member of my Detroit Lions, I love the guy.
so then gholston's actions were also excusable because he "got caught up in the moment".
Sorry, there are thousands of men who play this game for a living and they all seem to be able to control themselves.
Hopefully both players learn from their respective incidents.
This is a game the lions could've won. It should've been a lot better than 0-7 at halftime and then 3 INT's leading to 17 pts and a lot of dumb penalties (not all are the refs fault). Seems like a really talented but really immature team
Good thing he got ejected. After acting like that and costing the team points, i would have been upset if he wasnt benched the rest of the game anyway. Time to grow up Suh. This is National TV. You just claimed that reputation you were trying to avoid.
I love suh. Next time he should rip that packer's head off and showed it to him. Go big or go home.
We trade his ass in the off season perhaps get a better offensive line and secondary help. This team will not make the playoffs and if by some act if god they do Suh will probably stab someone because the had the nerve to try to Bloch him!
You sir, are an idiot.
Is this so idiotic obviously the stabbing part was my attempt at being sarcastic. Do we seriously want this guy representing the team we love. We talk about Michigan doing things the right way and being classy why don't we have the same expectations for the Lions.
Yes, that makes a ton of sense. Suh will go all last boy scout on him becaused somebody tried to BLOCK him
Suh plays violent in a violent league, guys are afraid so the league has to take him out of the game, I guarantee the Packer guy who got thrown out won't be punished
The whole "Suh is dirty" thing is completely media driven. I cannot defend his actions today however. He costed the team 7 points all by himself, he's going to hurt this team in the long run if he does that again.
As long as he's on the team, I will still support him.
Stonum has has multiple DUI's, and is still on the team. I fully support him as well. Honestly, what's worse? A DUI, or a footstomp? People are letting their emotions get the best of them right now.
HE COSTED US FOR THE LAST TIME!!!
Also, probably not.
How hard is it to not be an idiot?
It's Suh's stupid onfield temper that continually costs the Lions.
Stonum has offfield issues that hurt him and by-product hurt the team onfield.
What is this "emotions" BS? Gholston was probably fuming when he puched Lewan in the face. I bet half the excuse makers in here were incensed when that happened.
Suh and Stafford who together make somewhere near $100 million both cost the lions the game...that sucks
but his eyes. He is having issues reading defenses. His decision making is atrocious.
He had the same issues at Georgia. I did not like the pick then and his decision making was a big reason why. I an starting to believe he is just another Hipple-Harrington. He has the look of a bust.
I must confess to being embarrassed by Suh's actions today. That was beyond the pale of acceptable play. He deserves to be suspended.
That said, I still am a fan of his. He just needs to rein his rage.
your back Suh...Fuck it..
That was too stupid to even respond to. Suh is a beast and could very well be everything we want in the long-term, but not only was he dirty, but selfish and done it on freakin' national TV when it's the only game to watch. You want to know how to get a reputation and be on the wrong end of calls. . .you just saw it.
Will be learned when he gets suspended for a game or two. Making way too much money to play that stupid. Personable "yes". Stupid, a bigger "yes".
The video is even wrose....
But who knows? Maybe the guy had it coming?
Schwartz definitely has his work cut out reigning in Suh, though. He's too good to discard at this point; still young with a lot of maturation and refinement yet ahead of him. But there is no way anyone can rationalize away the liability that this kind of behavior represents.
Think he'll live?
Mr Suh or your own lyin' eyes?
Ndamakong didn't help himself after the game by denying what everyone saw clearly on national TV.
He's a dirtbag liar that tries to use his off the field chior boy persona to deflect his inexcusable on the field antics.
Were bringing back the days of the Detroit Bad Boys. We drafted what is questionably the dirtiest DL in the draft last year to play next to Suh in the future. The steelers have plenty of dirty players on defense and they win championship.
Yeah Harrison and Polomalu headhunting is clean, hard, tough football
This thread is full of hyperbole and juvenile character assassinations, yet it is only dissent or sarcasm that gets labeled "Flamebait"
I had to up-vote you for that. I never hear that word anymore, sadly.
I heard Bill Cowher say something along the lines of how important it is for Schwartz to get his players under control.
Suh deserves to be kicked out of the league for that headshot. I've seen enough of his antics for one lifetime -- never seen as dirty a player as this fool.
A lot of stuff goes that we never see. It is a dirty game played by dirty players. Dick Butkus was far dirtier than Suh is but you never hear of his antics nowdays. Ray Lewis is every bit as vicious.
What Suh was wrong, but it still is nowhere near as bad as a deliberate helmet-to-helmet, which we see far too much of.
You're an idiot
Of course, I must be an idiot. I didn't see this fool ram a player's head into the ground three times after the whistle and then stomp on him before getting ejected and denying that any of what I just saw actually happened.
There was no headshot, moron. Suggesting someone should be kicked out of the league for that is laughable considering Vick, Burress, etc. all continue to play. You're an idiot probably due to genetics and upbringing, can't call it, but there is no denying your stupidity. Or Suh's, btw; wasn't defending him so much as laughing at you. I'm sure you get that a lot Shortbus.
carries the rest of his team with him. Be a while before Detroit shakes this, which is sad, when they were on the way up. This will dominate the storyline for some time to come. They may have to trade him.
and win a playoff game all this talk will be drowned out by praise. Suh, however, will not be so lucky. He is going to have to not just adjust his game, but make a serious PR push to rehabilitate his reputation. Suh is no dummy so he has to realize that this incident is going to cost him money in other ways besides suspensions and fines.
They just took themselves out of playoff contention by losing this game.
If so you are wrong. They are tied with the Cutler-less Bears and the Cowboys whom they have already beaten. Their two remaining home games are winnable.(Vikings and Chargers)
The Saints and Packers games are losses, but the Raiders game is winnable. However, the Packers game in Lambeau may be more winnable if the Packers choose to sit their starters. much depends if they are still undefeated come January 1st.
Hating the Lions makes me a "troll"? Okay, whatever you say, chief. I've been pretty forthright with my hatred of the Lions on this board. I don't say what I say to provoke anyone; I'm just being honest. I can't stand the Lions or their fans.
Did you see his excuse post-game? If I were the Lions, I no longer make this guy available for interviews. I don't really pay much attention to the NFL, I don't live in Michigan, so I really do not know much of his reputation off the field...but what I saw today on the field, and then heard as an explanation afterwards...there is no amount of repair that guy can do to his image. He is a classless human being. Playing a violent sport doesn't excuse plays like that, which might have been excused away with an "I apologize, I lost my cool and let my emotions get the best of me." Rather than an "I was trying to get up and lost my balance so you didn't really see me stomp that man that was lying there on the ground." NFL should give him an extra game just for being stupid.
All you peoples excusing Suh or still supporting him need to never criticize Gholston, or the MSU LB that slammed Dennard, or the Wiscy lineman that chopped Martin last year ever again. The double standard is seriously making me cringe.
Who is "schultz"?
Anabolic Steroids make you act crazy.
Remember Lyle Alzado?
He clearly has to clean up his act. Based on his post-game comments that looks iffy, which is disappointing. Hopefully, someone can get him to do some soul searching.
I had defended Suh in the past, but I definitely won't be doing so for a while. Really need to see some improvement in the sportsmanship aspect of his game, that's for sure.
That was embarrassing. Especially Suh. Yeesh.
Suh is a disappointment. I am disgusted by his behavior.
Postgame press conference is pretty pathetic, hilarious if you aren't a lions fan
I'm guessing Spartan fans loved it since it was emotional and all. Suh was my favorite Lion and still is, but damn if he ain't getting suspended for that. He ought to be.
I had to laugh, though, when I read some writer say "well, the Lions will get extra attention from the refs now." Oh, because that wasn't already happening. Suh gets fined for every stupid little thing that he does, whether it's pushing a guy from behind too meanly, or whatever. A small part of me says, if you're gonna be the target of fines no matter what you do, might as well get your money's worth.
Fans who were at the game did not see the replay of the stomp because the stadium TV never showed it, according to my friends who went. The first time they saw it was after we ate Thanksgiving dinner and were watching the Ravens-Niners pregame. Their reaction pretty much was "yeah, that's not good."
I want to give Suh the benefit of the doubt, but Schwartz must have a heart-to-heart talk with the guy. I don't doubt Suh is a good dude, but maybe like some actors get lost in their roles or cops get too deep in their cover, perhaps Suh has blurred the line between his off and on the field personas. It sounds crazy, but it can happen. Let's not foget that Suh is no Larry Harrison or Albert Haynesworth, who I both think are not the greatest human beings in the world when compared to Suh (Harrison insulted the commish in a magazine article whereas Suh actually asked for a meeting...Haynesworth actually caused bodily harm when he stomped on a guy's head).
Leads me to one last thing: The media guys, especially the ex-NFL types, are a bunch of fricking hypocrites when it comes to Suh.
I saw more than one play while he was at Nebraska where it was obvious to me he was trying to injure the guy he was taking down, and he's continuing to do the same thing in the NFL.