It's apparently been know for at least 2 years. Interesting (or not) that this gets "leaked" now. He's 80 years old and has prostate cancer. I obviously don't know anything about his staging, but he's probably more likely to die WITH it than BECAUSE of it. And my vote is, "No," having cancer does not get you off the hook for being a bad person.
OT-Sterling has prostate cancer
a story about his son dieing over a year ago was recirculated on the web yesterday
Clear attempts at sympathy for our poor old rich racist billionaire
When you begin to hate or have no human sympathy for people who have given themselves over to hate and an unsympathetic life, you become what you despise.
...but then put those thoughts into words far more articulately than I would have.
What sympathy are we lacking?
The vast majority of people his age have prostate cancer. The doctors don't even treat someone like this for prostate because you are far more likely to die from old age than the prostate.
You might as well feel sorry for him for being old.
This is all BS. He is using the EXACT same tactic he used in the early 80's when the league tried to force him to sell due to his deliberate tanking to get Ralph Sampson.
He promised he would sell the team on his own then just never did and the league lost interest to pursue after a few years.
He is employing the same tactic hoping that this will just blow over in a few years and he can go to his deathbed owning this team. This guy is a scumbag. No one should be falling for this
"The vast majority of people his age have prostate cancer." Women don't get prostate cancer.
Also, mocking the dude for having cancer? That's low. Yes, he's a racist, but come on, he's not Hitler.
EDIT: Guh. Then I read below about even shittier things he's done, like not pay for his assistant coach to get treatment for prostate cancer. Why do you have to be so easy to hate, Sterling?
How can he be Hitler? He's Jewish.
Well, I said he's NOT Hitler. Anyway, it's known that some Nazis were at least half-Jewish. There was one high-ranking Nazi in particular that was half-Jewish but I forget who. Himmler?
One can complain about the timing of media stories without necessarily being happy that Sterling has prostate cancer (which he's apparently had for a while.) The OP could be read as mocking the ostensible narrative that is being forwarded by news stories which are now publicizing said cancer.
I have sympathy. I actually feel sorry for Sterling, and what and who he is. But having sympathy and feeling sorry for someone does not mitigate what needs to happen. I pity Sterling, and even think he is a sacrificial scapegoat the NBA owners are offering up, when some are quite slimy themselves. This does not change the fact that he was properly banned for life, and that the team needs to be sold.
I'm with you, except for the part where he is a billionaire and a cheating prick. It's really, really hard to have any sympathy for people who have gone out of their way to amass so much fortune for themselves. There's nothing wrong with becoming a billionaire, just understand when others don't sympathize with other problems that may arise in your life.
It's also really hard to sympathize with guys who cheat on their wives.
Then there's that racism thing.
Oh, and that he made it to 80. That's the lottery ticket for his generation to reach that age.
Real, real hard to sympathize with this guy in any capacity.
is directed at the clear attempt to gain sympathy and make a racist asses comments be softened by his condition, and the clear attempt at making him seem human by recirculating his sons death story thats over a year old.
Cancer sucks, I've lost a very close loved one to cancer, but I would feel terrible about him if he used it to gain sympathy over something awful he had done in his past.
"a lot has been revealed about Sterling’s business practices:
"All this other stuff I listed above has been going on for years and this ridiculous conversation with his girlfriend is what puts you over the edge? That’s the smoking gun?
"He was discriminating against black and Hispanic families for years, preventing them from getting housing. It was public record. We did nothing. Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?
"Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?
"Make no mistake: Donald Sterling is the villain of this story. But he’s just a handmaiden to the bigger evil. In our quest for social justice, we shouldn’t lose sight that racism is the true enemy. He’s just another jerk with more money than brains.
"So, if we’re all going to be outraged, let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident.
"Let’s use this tawdry incident to remind ourselves of the old saying: “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Instead of being content to punish Sterling and go back to sleep, we need to be inspired to vigilantly seek out, expose, and eliminate racism at its first signs."
His views disgust me but that certainly doesn't mean I wish a painful death on him. People can change even if it is unlikely. In some ways I feel sorry for him, there is clearly hate in his heart and no matter how much money you have, hate can cause an individual profound unhappiness. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
In the end, death is sad regardless of who it is IMO.
My father had prostate cancer and I went to a few of his urologist appointments. During the visit the urologist said that 90% of men who live to 90 years old have prostate cancer. Crazy stat..
and the stats aren't much better at younger ages. My dad had it at 54.
My father was 60 when he was diagnosed...and my mother died from cancer. Genetics are not in my favor.
The thing about prostate cancer is that most men over the age of 50 have at least some prostate cancer cells. Fortunately, most are never diagnosed with it and most prostate cancer is indolent and will never cause problems. But autopsy studies have been done and the resulting rule of thumb is that your age is also the percent likelihood that at least some prostate cancer cells can be found on autopsy. So an 80 year old is about 80% likely to have at least some cancerous cells.
That's why past a certain age, testing just doesn't make sense. Most don't die from it and the potential complications from treatment when it's found outweigh the benefit of treating it in the few cases where it would actually prolong life.
A looong time to die from prostate cancer.
Particularly in older patients, it tends to be very slow moving.
to know you aren't letting him off the hook. FInally someone with some conviction! This thread sucks, btw.
1) Having cancer doesn't make someone not a douche, or even LESS of a douche.
2) Being a douche doesn't mean it's good someone has cancer, or that it should be celebrated or viewed as divine retribution.
I am on the internet, and therefore cannot hold these two thoughts in my head at the same time. Since I read #1 first and agreed with it, that rules out #2.
This was actually in an ABC News segment this morning, and despite all that took place (and like most everyone else, I still think Sterling is a despicable person), you did find players such as Blake Griffin and Chris Paul offering sympathy and even Doc Rivers said that while he was unaware, he hoped that it was not true.
It's nice to see those guys take the high road.
If that's true, which is sounds like it is - that's one of the worst things I've ever heard. Good for the players for helping him out though. Sometimes I really hate people, but then I have to remind myself that most people in the world (at least IMHO) are good - it's just the bad ones seem to make the biggest waves.
Owners and senior executives do weigh the consequences that exceptions for one employee might have on the rest, or upon their expectation at the least. So I can understand why he chose not to pay the entire amount. But then again, he could have paid, half or a third, or done other things, but since he's a douche, guess not.
Because guess what, they do the exact same thing. This just made headlines because it's the NBA. Sad but true...
Did you even listen to the tapes? He didn't want his Gf in public with black people. How is that any different than people being anti gay people? People let the media brainwash them into decisions instead of people looking at all the facts. This is a guy who has donated money to black charities. I feel bad for the guy to be honest.
Becoming more and more evident the NBA had an agenda with this whole thing. The new commissioner wanted to make a name for himself and knew Sterling wasn't going to make it much longer anyway. I look forward to the NBA getting sued for millions for trying to break anti trust laws. Also, don't be surprised if a few other owners are forced out as well.
What? Sure, Silver thought to himself, "This guys got cancer anyway. I'll take him down to make a name for myself." I'll bet he also had something to do with the CIA taking down the WTC.
The fact that he's 80 assures he's not around much longer. Has nothing to do with cancer
...he'd still have a job?
You are by FAR the most ignorant, trolling, poster on this site. And not because of anything you've said in this thread...but because of everything you say, always.
How do you define "much longer"? Just because average life expectancy is less than 80 doesn't mean an 80 year old won't live much longer. The life expectancy of someone who is actually 80 is 90 years old. 10 years seems like a relatively long time to me.
Looks like the vocal small minority (/s) got their wish.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You are completely and totally ignorant of this entire scenario yet you keep running your mouth.
This controversy threatened to derail the entire league. They had to get rid of him.
Per Bill Simmons:
Every single sponsor of the Clippers pulled out. Major NBA sponsors were threatening to pull out. The Clippers TV deal ran out at the end of this season and the new TV deal was reportedly going to be worth billions. The TV provider was threatening to not pick up the deal, which would essentially black out all non-national Clippers games in the LA area.
The players were going to wait until opening tip so that it would be live on national TV, and walk off the court after the ball was thrown up, in every single game had Silver not banned Sterling for life. All of the Clippers players were then going to bring lawsuits against the NBA and the Clippers in an effort to get out of their contracts, citing an unsafe/hostile work environment. Players were also threatening to boycott the league next year if he wasn't gone.
Sterling had to go.
Is the NBA sorry to see him leave? Absolutely not, but they've hated him for 30 years and haven't tried to force him out before.
This guy is such a terrible owner and an unrepentant piece of shit that you would have a strong case for booting him out even sans the racism.
He's 80. Prostate cancer grows very slowly, it probably won't kill him at this point, something else will. But if he isn't already incontinent, he probably will be in the near future.
So, sitting around in adult diapers, wondering why your girlfriend screwed you over, why your soon to be ex-wife had enough and is suing both you and your girlfriend, wondering why your son wasted his life away on drugs, why the old boy's club of the NBA kicked you out, why the Feds won't leave an honest to goodness slumlord alone... But hey, you're worth $1.9 billion, that's got to feel good, no?
Some other young lady with a need for cash will find her way to the old guy. LA never runs out of these types.
Ultimately, he will never learn, and judgement will be made after he expires.
We should pray for his health and well-being. We should also pray that he learns to love all human beings. It is very easy to pray for those we like or those we are friends with. I think it is just as important to pray for those with hate in their heart. My thoughts are with him.
useless gestures are just about all i feel he deserves from us.
hate and insults from afar is so much more productive.
... is a very slow killer. if you are 80 years old and were diagnosed only two years earlier you will likely die from some other cause. Prostate cancer is much more of a problem when you are diagnosed at 60.
This sounds eerily similar to Joe Paterno. Old man in his 80's, fired in disgrace, everyone in the world (outside Happy Valley) is pissed at him and THEN he reveals he has had cancer for 2 years.
it is not a matter of him revealing he has cancer for sympathy, it is a matter of the attack being staged at a time where he can be basically destroyed without really having an opportunity to defend himself. Yes, it is eerily similar to Paterno.
Sterling is your garden variety racist, and a cheapskate slumlord. That makes him a horrible human being. Paterno, on the other hand, wasn't even worthy of being a human. Complacency with child rape? Fuck him and his PSU shrine. They should have revoked the title of university but allowed the campus to stand vacant, just because it be fitting tribute to the hollow words of a guy who preached a lot better than he practiced.
Would have a better record of hiring minorities for high positions than half of his peers. (Yeah, really).
I really wonder what any of us would do - work for a racist and get paid 10% more or work for a person who likes hanging out with you and get paid 10% less. I'd personally take the former as I don't give two sh!ts if my boss likes anything about me other than how well I do my job.
Source on the hiring thing?
There have been so many articles on there that I can't remember exactly which one but he mentioned that he was better than half the league in terms of hiring minorities for higher positions.
As far as the NBA is concerned he's a racist but, legally speaking, he's probably the most non-discriminatory racist in history (strictly NBA speaking since they didn't give a crap about any of the other stuff).
Except he hired them so that he could treat them like dog shit and vastly underpay them. It was almost fetishistic for him.
He would fire pretty much every single non-essential employee in the off season and then rehire them back right before the season started so that he didn't have to pay them.
He likened the Clippers to his plantation with himself being the big boss.
He is an unrepentant piece of shit. He should have been removed based on what a shit boss he was, sans all of the racism stuff. There was a time when the Clippers players' check would bounce if they didn't get to the bank immediately after practice on Fridays. So Donald moved the practices back until after the banks closed to fuck over his players.
Again, he is a real piece of shit.
I don't know if I totally buy that. He had Elgin Baylor as his GM for a long, long time - people around the league couldn't believe how patient he was with Baylor despite a pretty dismal record. And he did hire a lot of black coaches - more than most other owners. Many ended up getting fired, but that's not that surprising given that the franchise was consistently bad. I think people are now looking back at things through the prism of his latest comments and looking for racism in the way he ran the Clippers, but I don't know how much you can really find. (His non-basketball businesses are another story.)
I have heard about him being a tightwad, though,
How about you read anything Elgin Baylor has to say about Sterling then? Also, how about you dig up the quotes from former coaches and players. Dig up the quotes from his sales and marketing team, and other people who worked for the Clippers.
You don't have to buy anything from me. Do a little research. It's all out there at this point.
We are still talking about a guy that the local chapter of the NAACP wanted to honor not once but twice. I don't doubt that he personally is racist, and certainly the league needed to do something after these latest comments. Still, hiring lots of black employees isn't the worst thing you can do. There have been plenty of NBA owners that have never hired a black coach or GM.
if you just look at a person's actions and don't take an extra 2 milliseconds to consider their motives--especially when pretty convincing insights to their motives are a google search away--then you will be fooled by the simplest of PR tricks.
They wanted to honor him because he gave them gobs and gobs of money in an effort to quell the PR nightmare of his racist business practices within the community.
Let's not be rubes here.
I would bet that many people would love to take 90% of what they make now to work for a boss who quickly becomes a good friend.
And clearly neither do any of the players or management who work for the clippers. I've got friends, why would you care if my boss is one of them?
Because having your friend for a boss is better than having a racist dickbag for a boss?
(usual disclaimer: I'm a Penn State fan, though not a Joe-Bot)
Joe Paterno probably did have a cancer diagnosis well before November 2011. But that's his and his family's business alone. Not even his employer's business.
Frankly, Penn State had plenty of reason to remove Paterno prior to November 2011 (reason #1 being he simply was not good at his job any more). But I will retroactively defend Paterno (and any cancer-stricken employee) for not wanting to reveal this while he was on the job.
he has cancer. Seriously one of the first things I thought of when this story broke was that Sterling is probably dying and therefore cannot effectively fight back or defend himself, and will not be able to effectively seek retribution against other owners etc. The NBA wants the Clippers under different ownership and they don't want the franchise to stay in the family past his death (when they presumably could not stage such a force-out).
But his wife is suing for divorce now and he may see this as an opportunity to hold off on a forced sale. Look at the McCourt situation and the Dodgers. A California judge is likely to hold off on any quick, forced sale during the discovery process, unless both parties agree and Donald Sterling could simply say no. Then a sale would have to be approved by both parties and the judge.
Poor Donald Sterling. The world is out yo get him.
no pun intended, but nothing is black and white, everything is some shade of gray. Seeing the multiple different issues at play here is not the equivalent of supporting Donald Sterling. Just as not believing Joe Paterno is burning in hell right now does not make somebody a molestation supporter, seeing plainly that Sterling's ousting and nearly certain impending death has both increased interest in the NBA playoffs and stand to profit certain individuals handsomely does not equate to "poor Donald Sterling."
The NBA wants it under different ownership because players are threatening not to play and the player's association will file grievances and force Sterling to make all players free agents. They're bleeding money left and right -- they're losing sponspors and TV deals. That hurts the other 29 teams. It's not as if SIlver was sitting around in his office waiting for something like this blow up. Jesus, is Sterling your grandfather or something? You've gone way out of your way to defend this guy.
Am going out of my way to oppose a mob mentality. It it a American cultural problem right now and I am making it a goal to try to oppose that at every chance. It is actually a real issue and needs to be actively avoided.
You've picked quite the test case.
you would hope that an 80 year-old billionaire who has cancer would spend his dying days trying to rectify the damage that his 30+ years of racist, hateful incompetence have caused, and find some internal peace.
instead, it's being rumored that he's going to sue the NBA.
a man with no integrity, suing the nba on principle.
god rest his soul.
He was already caught on tape showing how he wants to spend "his dying days".
Being an absolute hypocrit that has a mixed race girlfriend (who he takes to games !!!!) yelling at her for being seen with black celebrities. How dare her?
honest I only pressed save once
because he knows his way around the legal court. I am sure he is also surrounded by some of the best attorneys in the LA area. He has shown himself, in addition to being a blatant racist, to be an arrogant, aggressive, and unpleasant person.
This is a guy who, when violating clear NBA by-laws by unilateraly moving the Clippers from SD and being subsequently fined $25 million for violating said clear rules, turned around and sued the league for $100 million, even though he was being fined purusant to clear rules. Not wanting to litigate, the NBA settled with Sterlking for a $6 million, taking it out of Sterling’s cut from expansion fees, which amounted to, essentially, not receiving$6 million.
The legal analyst for ESPN seems to think that Sterling's removal is a done deal and that the sale is foregone conclusion and will happen very quickly and that Sterling has no foot to stand on.
I have litigated my share of cases and know, from experience, that nothing in law is clear. Most is mud. The pertinent language in the constitution, pursuant to which this vote will go ahead, is open to interpretation. Was a conversation taped in private a "willful" violation of the league rules? Well, that is certainly not a clear cut answer, and is most definitely open to interpretation. However, even if the arbitration panel finds in the affirmative, Sterling can pursue other legal avenues, anti-trust for example (arguing that a forced sale of his team in this circumstance is an illegal restraint of trade that could make him accept a below-market price). Now that course of action he can pursue in a court of law, not before an arbitration panel.
When you get into the realm of the courts, the legal process all of a sudden gets a LOT longer. There are a lot of "tools" within the rules of civil procedure (all sorts of motions), that one can use to stall. There is also the discovery process. That can take ages. I have worked on cases where just discovery took years. Just deposing every single owner can take forever. Personally, I do not think the antitrust case is super strong, Sterling might not prevail in the end, but litigation could last anywhere from weeks to years, so no, this is not a done deal. I am also sure that the other owners are doing their legal homework before they vote and are preparing for the possibility of a lawsuit. Depositions can be pretty brutal and the skeletons can start marching right of the closet.
There is also the issue of his wife who, incidentally, has her own history of racism( http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/30/wife-of-don...). Assuming they do get a divorce and she gets half the team, what then? If she does decides that she does not want to sell, on what grounds can the owners vote her our?
I know people want this guy to be gone but, realistically, people need to get ready for a looooong ride. Financially, it would make sense for Sterling to sell honestly; the longer he holds to the team the more the value will fall as sponsors will bail, etc. However, I do not get the impression that he cares.
he'll have to answer for everything some day, just like the rest of us.
...would have made money playing for other teams too. Donald Sterling did nothing to create the modern NBA other than purchase a team and then sit on his ass while people like Michael Jordan, Magic & Bird, Jerry Colangelo, Phil Jackson, and others made the league what it is. He was a joke as an owner for years even if you put aside his bigotry.
Racism isn't just wearing a KKK outfit and saying you're for segregation. Lacking sympathy for one racial group while you have sympathy for your own is also racism. You should ask yourself whether the latter definition applies to you, though your lack of sympathy seems to border on contempt.
He didn't make anyone a millionaire.
They made themselves millionaires. You act like he's just going around handing out multi-million dollars checks to black people out of the goodness of his heart.
Every other team in the league would be more than happy to give Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and any number of guys on that team millions of dollars for their services.
After Sterling is gone the Clippers and NBA will keep chugging on like he never even existed.
"You act like he's just going around handing out multi-million dollars checks to black people out of the goodness of his heart."
That sounds familiar. You don't suppose...
I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?
...it's hilarious that he thinks he's been more important to the NBA than guys like Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. Sterling didn't found anything and he didn't help make the NBA grow. I would dislike him if I were another long-time owner purely for taking a free ride all these years while other owners helped spread the game/league.
...as a condition of having a team. The NBA has a salary cap but also a salary minimum (90% of the cap this year). Generosity =/= something you are obliged to do.
ShakyJake... Worst. Poster. Ever.
They are entirely self made. There is no one more self made than an athlete.
this shakey jake character is Donald sterling. If anyone can take credit for paying players and making them who they are, it is NBA fans who buy tickets and jerseys and memorabilia...
You're blantant ignornat and quite racist yourself. Oh wait, no you're not...because you have 'x' amount of black friends...so you're okay.
Some slave masters had black friends, some had black girlfriends, others gave their slaves promotions and even gave them money or gifts for their work at times.
But they still believed, profited from, and chose to accept the institution of slavery. They still believed they were a supreme race who had the right to own, abuse, rape, and murder another race...because to them, that race was property. They still discriminated and displayed all types of prejudice.
But just because they did those "nice" things for their slaves...they're okay? Slavery is now justified? It was alright?
...it's extreme, I know, but it's the same train of thought. You're saying because Sterling had a team full of African American players and an African American head coach, he's now allowed to do and say what he wants without penalty? He's now allowed to display the racism and discrimination that he's shown at least the past 20 (documented) years?
Get the fuck out of here. It's this type of thinking that YOU display for being a key reason why progress is so hard in this country. Just the fact that you could type, what you thought was a joke and display this type of ignorance is amazing.
You don't have to like the media attention, you can be pissed that he was basically set up by his golddigging hoe of a girlfriend, but you can't dismiss his comments just because we all weren't supposed to hear them. Or you can, and that is why I've used the word ignorant so many times...uneducated would be another solid choice...either way, it accurately describes your post.
"And paid out millions to many blacks".
It's like I am listening to my grampa talk here.
Oh, and yeh he was racist.
I don't care who has it. . . .
This is clearly Donald Sterling PR people leaking this information in an effort to garner sympathy.
Also, I guess we should stop posting threads when ex-Wolverine athletes have cancer so that we can do fundraising drives for them, because we wouldn't want to violate HIPAA.
DONALD STERLING HAS CANCER!
Your post is a bunch of sanctimonious drivel that doesn't even make sense. I responded to you and your response was also nonsensical.
Do you want us to stop doing cancer drives for ex-Michigan athletes because posting "So and so has cancer, so we should help them out," violates HIPAA?
Do you know for certain that this violates HIPAA, because you posted it as "HIPPA?"
EDIT: I mean, this is being reported by CBS News, ABC News, FOX News, NBC News, ESPN, and just about every other news outlet big and small.
It's also not a violation of a person's privacy if they leak the information themselves.
I'm telling you to think with your head. Use some common sense. That's one of my good deeds for the day.
And I said you were being sanctamonious.
Why are you assuming the worst about OP? Maybe he was just passing along another major piece of national news from what has been the single biggest national news story of the past week.
Yes, I'm claiming his PR leaked it. No, I don't have any proof, just like you don't have any proof about OP being a douche but you chose to believe the worst of him anyway. It just seems like such a calculated thing to do and being very well versed in Donald Sterling's history (much more than you're versed in OP's) I'm assuming that this was a PR move.
As someone else pointed out, yesterday there were a bunch of sad stories leaked about the death of his son. Now, today it just so happens it's leaked he has cancer, even though he's been battling it for years and kept it private. The info just so happens to come out when he is in dire need of some sympathy. I wasn't born yesterday.
Being a douche is a medical condition. Stop spreading around my medical history and being unethical.
You came into this thread essentially declaring everyone posting in here to be your moral and ethical inferior, chastising us for not living up to your high ethical standards, and I'm the douche for being rubbed the wrong way by that?
I don't think you understand HIPPA (sic)
He's a racist and a jerk, but obviously dying from painful cancer isn't some cosmic retribution or anything.
Sucks that he has cancer, but he is still a total shitbag of a human being.
If Magic Johnson can beat AIDS with his money, I'm sure prostate cancer is no match for Sterling's billions.
Mr. Tokowitz has prostate cancer. You don't wish that upon anyone.
But, what I now understand is that most of you males writing things about prostate cancer might step back because, based on what I've read, most of you are misinformed. To set the record straight-lots of 80 year olds die a horrible, painful death from prostate cancer. 28,000 men will die from prostate cancer in 2014. Screening for prostate cancer in the US, because of our fee-for-service system, is done haphazardly and incorrectly most of the time. If you're over the age of 40 you should know your PSA and your urologist. And finally, Donald Sterling has been a complete bastard, racist for a lot longer than he's owned the Clippers and the NBA has known this. So when the sponsors started to bail the NBA acted...money talks.
Isn't that many. How many males die from heart disease?
Is a broad category somewhat like 'cancer' is a broad category. Prostate cancer is the second leading cause of death from malignancy and I would say that 28,000 is a lot. At the same time, morbidities from the unnecessary diagnosis and treatment of this disease is significant
well that's that. can't be mad at someone when they have cancer. it's in the rulebook.
look it up.