OT-Sparty upset by Hoyas

Submitted by mgomich16 on

Sparty upset up by the Georgetown Hoyas at Madison Square Garden 64-60. This is coming after a 5 game losing streak for the Hoyas.

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snarling wolverine

February 1st, 2014 at 7:08 PM ^

I hear you on that (and it's not exactly disappointing to see Sparty lose), but beyond the SOS calculations, I'm a little concerned about how the B1G is going to be perceived from here on out.  It's looking less like a murderer's row and more like a big mess of parity/mediocrity.

 

 

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turd ferguson

February 1st, 2014 at 6:31 PM ^

I don't completely buy that.  Yes, there's a strength of schedule issue (which will only affect tournament seed), but everything else about this is positive.  Remember that we're competing with MSU for tournament seeds, recruits, positive media attention, etc., and that it's fun to see them lose.  Plus, if this makes things a little less settled and happy in East Lansing, it could negatively affect their (Big Ten) play this season.

All in all, it's a positive in my opinion.

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Mmmm Hmmm

February 1st, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^

This is a schadenfreude posbang, because it doesn't really help Michigan. Still, though, I'm not sad about seeing Sparty lose. Perhaps this could start a streak?

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aiglick

February 1st, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^

Well then I guess the Big 12 isn't that great either.

Kansas 7-0 (losing at Texas 67-53)

Texas 5-2

Oklahoma 6-3

KSU 5-4

WVU 5-4

Iowa State 4-4

OSU 4-4

Texas Tech 3-6

Baylor 2-6

TCU 0-8

Yes, the Big Ten is beating up on each other but the Big 12 is the conference most cited as the second best or maybe first best by the MSM and this looks no better than in conference for the Big Ten. This loss by MSU is not good but it's one game. Out of conference the conference has some impressive victories and we'll get to see how we do in the Tournament but I suspect the Big Ten will do fairly well.

 

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Hapa

February 1st, 2014 at 6:00 PM ^

Why Posbang?  This isn't good for us.  

I wish MSU nothing but fire and brimstone in conference play, but we kinda want them to win out of conference you know.  

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hopkinsdrums

February 1st, 2014 at 6:03 PM ^

If a scenario occurs where Michigan and MSU lost in the same round of the B1G, this loss will help Michigan to potentially edge them out a seed number or something. Stretch maybe, but still true.

Plus it's State, I never mind seeing them lose a game on national television, B1G or not. The B1G credibility will show itself brightly when we're kicking the ass of teams in the big dance, knock on wood.

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mfan_in_ohio

February 1st, 2014 at 6:03 PM ^

We are competing against MSU for seed placement in the NCAAs.  Since the NCAA tries to place teams in their home region now, we have a better chance at getting to the Midwest regional (Indianapolis) if MSU is out of the way.  I also think that region should get the weakest #1, with Arizona out west, Syracuse in the east, and Kansas in the south (Memphis is closer to them than Indy.  So I'll take the minor embarassment to the B1G for the significant hit to Sparty's resume. 

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MGoBlue24

February 1st, 2014 at 6:09 PM ^

the conference, the tournament: we should want MSU to win out of conference, beat the right in-conference teams, etc. I'm trying to reconcile all of that with a wish that MSU would lose every. single. game. that they play.

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ND Sux

February 1st, 2014 at 6:10 PM ^

I finally stumble on a posbang thread before it has fizzled out, only to find it's not really a posbang thread at all. 

Agreed, this doesn't help us, but I still have the "go green - go white" chants in my head from after the 2010 FB game in AA, so fuck Sparty anyway. 

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alum96

February 2nd, 2014 at 11:41 AM ^

When Nike told them bronze was their new color.  There were 7 teams who got those 'special Nike' uniforms, and I looked at all 7 and the other 6 (Syracuse, OSU, Duke, Neb, et al) all had traditional colors.  Only Sparty went with what Nike declared as their new color.

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jigsmcgee

February 1st, 2014 at 6:19 PM ^

looked super enticing, as did the moneyline.  Live betting this game was ridiculously great.  Basically got same odds when MSU went up 3 in the first half.

But yes bad for Michigan overall.

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LSAClassOf2000

February 1st, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^

If you also looked at the predictions, the chances of MSU losing this game would have seemed rather remote. Massey Ratings, for example, gave MSU an 88% predicted win probability and a median score of 74-62 or so. TeamRankings and other sites had similar predictions as well and spreads of 4-6 possessions basically. It made intuitive sense too - a limping 19-2 MSU team versus a plodding Georgetown. As we know, of course, basketball is strange sometimes. 

Some small consolation that perhaps comes out of it - MSU is the sole remaining obstacle to us being rated at the top of the conference on Massey and other sites. Take care of business tomorrow and the obstacle, by rule of various algorithms, could be removed. 

 

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jigsmcgee

February 1st, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^

I am not fully understanding your point and i think it was because I didnt provide enough info - I meant 7.5 for Georgetown looked super enticing.  I thought the game was prime for an upset based on how they match up on the offensive boards (they are arguably more athletic than MSU), the previous OT game MSU played, the referee conference association.  Probably the only thing that made me worry was the 8 or 9 TOs in the first half, which actually did not matter because of the OReb destruction GT placed on the smaller lineup of MSU.

I fully acknowledge that my analytics may be terrible on this whole thing though, and this may be just dumb luck, but dam it still feels good to live bet this game correctly.

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rainingmaize

February 1st, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^

Probably not the right place for this, but I don't know how this can be a good thing for Michigan. Yea they are Little Brother and everything, but we look a lot better come tourney time if State, Iowa, Wisconsin and others are looking good. Plus this is a game most Big 10 teams should've won. Plus the more losses Sparty gets, the more important it is for them to win at Crisler.

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