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OT: Spartan Logo Change
Seriously, did you guys know that MAC/MSC/MSU used to have winged helmets just like Big Brother, back in the 1930's-40's?
Here's a terrific picture of Tom Harmon (Evashevski blocking) playing against "State" (Michigan State College at the time) in Ann Arbor.
I believe that the Spartans' (Were they Spartans then? I think so) colors were black and silver at the time. And yes, that is a block "S" parked in the middle of the front of their helmets.
(Somebody has this photo as their avatar, I know; I have a big version of this photo; it is a beauty. I honestly don't know if this photo is from 1940 or 1939, because both games were in Ann Arbor I think. It is probably 1940.)
those are hand-me-downs that michigan gave them when they outgrew them.
Pretty much everyone had wings on the helmets then; it was part of the leather stitching. Fritz Crisler's innovation was not the wings, but the three stripes. Our wings only became noteworthy after we decided to keep them when the sport went to plastic helmets.
This is an old, standard Bentley Historial Library entry on the subject:
The entry is pretty much authoritative as far as I know. (It also corrects me on the date of the Harmon-Evy photo, as 1939.)
Anyway, a standard-model Spalding FH-5 that anybody could order had the three stripes. Maybe, before Spalding came out with the FH-5 in 1937, Crisler had worked up the design for the Princeton Tigers, and Spalding copied it for 1937. I don't know. Before my time, as they say.
By the way, I could never understand why the Spartans ever strayed from the 1966-68 uniform design. They have tried one fugly thing after another since then.
I'm glad that these guys are just a sweet memory of the golden days of Michigan State:
The '66 Spartan helmet also had a smaller Spartan image on it, that is amazingly similar to the USC helmet-Trojan. Why they junked that, I'll never understand. It's worked okay for the Trojans.
A school with no history is forced to create its own by changing the logo and manipulating its football uniform repeatedly. White stripe on the helmet, remove the white stripe, bring back the white stripe, S on the helment, spartan head on the helmet, Michigan State on the uni, STATE on the uni, Michigan State on the uni...
about MSU adopting Oregon's multiple uniform combinations...
If this is true, my day has been made.
It says I have to be registered to see the content... Yeah, no. Anyhow, I think the Hamburgler would be fitting due to their recent spate of "off-field incidents".
Is that logo for their co-eds or their football team?
From a distance it looks like a facial splooge. I can see why they scrubbed that one.
Echoing what Captainlonghair said, this is what happens when you have little in the tradition of football or athletics.
I personally like the original better, but if they think it is going to make them world beaters then I can see why they did it.
What they think is that it will make the school fit in better when they play 300 as the hype video before EVERY game.
If they're looking for a whole uniform change I suggest they use Syracuse as a guide:
I didn't know Dirk Digler played for the Orangemen.
but you can't put a price tag on incorporating Dantonio's furrowed "Sam the Eagle" brow into the famous Spartan logo.
I'm so glad that Michigan has its own identity. How many schools in the country are known mononymously as "State"? Putting a big "S" on your athletic gear is very creative and original...
Haha. That guy definitely came to mind when I posted that.
Really, 300 is starting to get a little old. I'm sure Ole Miss isn't going on and on about The Blind Side as much as they are about 300 even though that movie is still new and still free game for the Rebs to talk about.
Also, I would like to take the time to thank everybody in the Athletic Department even remotely responsible for making sure we were least identifiable via our mascot. I would especially like to thank Fritz Crisler for giving us the helmet we have and will continue to use with little to no variation for the rest of our existence (Its cool if Princeton wants to stay in, since they technically got it from Fritz first, but Delaware seriously needs to get their own idea).
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I was being too cautious.
I hope no one got paid for that work.
Why wouldn't they change their logo? It's been two years hasn't it?
I think it looks uglier than the one that they have now. The older one looked a little more realistic the new one looks like a little kid drew it
I'm pretty sure that a little kid drew all of their logos.
Had nothing to do with the design.
I sure hope they can create a vector version of the logo before they slap that bitmap one on helments or center court at Breslin.
The new logo looks like a comic book rendition. I think if they told no one of the change very few people would have even noticed. Some MSU fans I know are losing their minds about this, though.
... like the Slap Chop. Simple rinsing, no hand washing.
the new dude got his nose broken.
Or (if you look at it upside-down) is that supposed to be a Nike swoosh jutting into the top of the helmet?
you made me laugh out loud! That was freaking funny.
I can't really decide which one I like less. They both look pretty bad.
Azmsufan (comment) is a seasoned cynic:
They know what they are doing. We all need to go buy new stuff now
Sounds like the reasoning behind new editions for college textbooks.
And none of the Sparties in the comment section likes the new one better.
Because the Spartan logo is so timeless and is a bigger deal than Michigan's block M.
...made it where it would be relatively easy for that guy with the logo tattoo to update it. LOL.
Came up with a better one, thanks to LongLiveBo and Misopogon.
it sure worked for the Lions, didn't it?
and make their logo a picture of Gerard Butler's sweaty abs?
basically trashed the new logo. Said his dog would take a crap that looks better than that new logo. Took the piece of paper with the picture on it, ripped and crumpled it up and threw it away. It was an entertaining couple minutes.
From the mlive.com article:
"The logo redesign is 'the result of a two-year collaboration between MSU Athletics and a team of top designers from Nike.'"
It took a week to make that slight change in the logo. It took a year and 51 weeks for the "team of top designers from Nike" to develop a system of simple words and hand gestures, so that they could explain the change to the MSU administrators.
how many MSU designers does it take to fill in the white gaps of the current logo?
1 to actually do it with magic marker, and 19 to tell you how awesome T.J. Duckett was.
who giggled with anticipation when they read the thread title? I can't be the only one!
back to the aggies or the staters
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LOL that looks like something lupe fiasco made on ms paint. wait, i take that back. that would be an insult to lupe. sorry!
Are you not entertained?! Is this not why you are here?!
Will they be changing to the Michigan State Gladiators?
Funny thing is that it took 2 years to develop. So I guess we learned that MSU does not have a good art school.
Is it just me or does the new logo look like a transformer??
Why change what has worked so well for so long? That logo has seen...er...many years of...er...a couple years of...er...well, a few weeks of success.
I thought that this was a ski mask joke. It's funnier that it isn't.
keep it simple
The new sparty logo looks like the ghost of Elvis.
have been dancin to that Jailhouse Rock
I think the protruding forehead is supposed to
be more intimidating, or maybe it's easier to
slip the ski mask over.
even as I was typing, someone thought the same
But isn't the "protruding forehead" a signature characteristic of Neanderthal Man?
I had a conversation with a MSU grad/fan about this yesterday and his main complaint was that it was a break from tradition. He said "It would be like changing the block M and adding curves or something." To which I laughed and said that they are in no way comparable. I asked him how long the current logo had been around around and he said since the 70s (not sure if that's true or not). Most people are flipping out calling it ugly because it's breaking from their "long" tradition. When it's actually not a bad redesign It look pretty close to the helmets from the "300" though. It's only a matter of time before Gerard Butler is running around the sidelines.
Go the The Helmet Project (Google "The Helmet Project"; the url itself is funky, without good internal links) and click on The Big Ten and scroll down to MSU. "Tradition" changes every 6 or 7 years. Which is half as often as they change coaches.
Warning, The Helmet Project is known to be addictive; adult supervision is advised.
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