A deal breaker. What if we lose power for a week? What a pain in the ass.
fair point that
A deal breaker. What if we lose power for a week? What a pain in the ass.
I am so fucking sick of the proliferance of the word "trolled".
Maybe 6 years ago
The sad part is that it isn't even used correctly 99% of the time. Trolling used to be the act of dropping a few obviously contentious statements into a message board and watching people bitterly argue with no gain. The troller was acting like the fisherman sitting in his boat. Simply casting a statement overboard in many different places and letting people fight over it with minimal effort. Now people are "losing the game" by spending more effort trying to "troll" people than the effort people but into their arguments after being trolled. Get off my internet lawn you kids!
GDDR5, not DDR5. GDDR5 will be faster for graphics. DDR3 will be faster for general usage. Considering that Microsoft sold out on the idea of a media center, you're pretty much comparing apples and oranges.
The difference was lost on me. My only knowledge of RAM came from research when I snapped together my last desktop. G/DDR5 wasn't even an option then.
I have privacy issues with both of them. I guess ps3 is as far as I'm going for now.
That funny you say that because a lot of the games coming out this fall are going to be prepped for release on both PS3 and PS4. In the case of Battlefield 4, its going to be very interesting to see how that works. PS4 is going to support 64-man servers for BF4 but PS3 only supports 24-man servers. Its a drastically different gaming experience between the two but of course they have to make the game for both to maximize profit.
Ive wanted to play BF3 on PC to see the difference. I couldn't imagine TDM with that many people.
I think the TDM maps are extended on PC (think SqDM on PS3) but the real difference is seen in Conquest rounds. On PS3 you can run around for 20 minutes and not see anyone! That doesn't happen on PC. Many (most?) of the maps weren't made for only 24 players. I can't believe that the guys/gals at DICE feel that their design is being fully appreciated on console. But we at least got all the DLCs before everyone else on PS3, so that's something.
If you're interested in seeing some PC footage, check out rivaLxfactor or LevelCapGaming on Youtube. They have great educational stuff.
Yeah conquest can be dull at times. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info.
I know it is really douchey to say it, but I'm probably going PC for a few years. If you are resourceful, you can get one for the same price as an Xbox one and you can get games on the cheap from Steam.
That said, of I'm going console, I would probably choose PS4. I agree that piracy and used games are a real problem, but putting that burden on the consumers is not a good solution. Companies should be working on taking percentages from gamestop's used game sales, not charging consumers full MSRP or shutting down the system if the account has not been verified in 24 hours. And while always online would not be a problem for ME 95% of the time, I imagine that 5% would leave me pretty pissed off.
Any word on if you'll be able to play PS3 games on the PS4? That's probably the biggest hurdle for me in making the jump from 3 to 4.
The answer, AFAIK, is no. There will be no forward compatability (or whatever technical description they use).
They changed the processor architecture they use on the PS4 so true backwards compatibility won't be possible as far as popping your old PS3 discs in. However, Sony has recently announced that they plan to make some PS3 games available via streaming so all is not lost (http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-gamers-can-stream-ps3-...).
In my eyes the 360 killed the PS3...I haven't even been paying attention about the new consoles. I have an original 360 Elite never red ringed on me or anything put a month alone on MW2 online still runs great picked up a PS3 for Xmas and was happy with it the downside is there's no party chat so you can't communicate with your friends unless your playin the same game in the same lobby. From this thread/friends/E3 nerds all sayin the PS4 is better my question is are they addressing this at all so you can have a party chat or some shit?
Party chat is an option, they rolled it out in the presentation.
PS4 will take over.
Fuck both of them. PS4 has no BC with PS3 or PS2 games......but it does have PSone.
I refuse to have 3 consoles in the back of my TV.
Emulating the Cell processor would be very difficult/annoying/expensive to do. PS2 is feasible, but people will pay to buy the IP again, so it's not worth the headache.
Internal to these companies, people realize that backward compatibility a lot of work with diminishing payoffs over the life of a console.
Gamers will bitch about it, but it isn't a good investment.
Even if Microsoft corrects the two obvious blunders (constant internet connection needed; almost impossible to share games) and the fact Sony just publicly took them to town, the PS4 has probably gained thousands and thousands of buyers from Microsoft who are in the casual gamer category
I'm not saying years down the road that I won't buy a PS4 or an xbox 1, but what can the new consoles do that a high quality gaming PC can't already do? High end gaming pc can already plam games at 1080P 3D, etc.
Consoles are cheaper than gaming pc, but games are a hell of alot cheaper on Steam. I have a Steam backlog right now, and I basically never spend more than $25 on a game I want unless I have to have it at launch. For the record, I have a PS3 which I mainly play sports games on, and an Xbox 360 which I literally only play Forza on. The only reason I bought a 360 was becasue I found a hell of a deal on a used elite still under warranty and I had won a shit ton of money playing keno the night before at the bar. I haven't played keno since then becasue I figure I'll never win that much again, lol.
I like xbox, but all the different ways they want to force you to spend more just for the privilege of using their system pisses me the fuck off. I love Dead Space and I was so mad jumping through all the hoops to play pay-for-online-only multiplayer. I had to sign up with 6 different websites with 6 different passwords to play 2 player coop online even though i was sitting in the fucking room with the my 2nd player, and my email got spammed so hard after that. Now they want to dictate to all gamers how they should be allowed to play at all. Fuck you Microsoft, I'm the fucking consumer, I tell you what I want, you cater to me, not the other way around. You don't get my money anymore.
Great post. Made my day. At this point I guess I am a bit happy I never got into online play and shit. Just me, possibly others, a console, game, tv and controller(s). Simple!
I wonder how much cheaper the PS4 will really be? I bet, in the end, the prices will probably equal out somewhat. Sony will probably charge more than MS for online features and extra controllers, etc. But it's a brilliant strategy nonethless. This will be fascinating to watch as MS will probably have to change some things on the fly here to stay competitive. I like your Sega Saturn analogy.
Not sure where you are getting your info but the new XBOX One does NOT have "the same RAM they used in their almost decade old console".
The XBox 360 has 512 MB of RAM (1/2 GB). The XBOX One will have 8GB of RAM. That is 16 times more.
Sorry I misunderstood what you were saying..
Yeah, it is possible that it is the same type of memory. That honestly isn't necessarily a terrible thing. There is so much more involved in the speed of these things then in just the exact speed of the memory, like bus speeds & caching, plus I know the XBOX has some high-speed SDRAM directly on the GPU that supposedly will factor into the overall equation as well.
So in the end, you really can't tell what the overall perf of the box is until you start pushing it with games and see what happens. But you're right--on paper the Sony memory is faster.
Here's an article on the specs:
I'm still just going to stick with my PC for most of my gaming (mods, better graphics, etc) and just use my 360 for sports games. I have no first-hand experience with Sony's online play (been told by friends that it's horrid and lonely), but I can definitively say I'm always impressed with Xbox Live's ease of use. I get the DRM stuff (and that "borrowing games" video from Sony was LOL), but it's no different from what I experience now with Steam, really. I just wouldn't want to pay $60 for the game AND have the DRM issues.
As for me, I just recently rebuilt my system. I harvested the existing case, PSU, blu-ray drive and only upgraded MB, CPU, RAM and GPU. My system was 6 years old before the upgrade and still ran Skyrim and Far Cry 3 on the same settings graphically as the Xbox 360/PS3. Now I get Ultra on everygame but Metro: Last Light for less than $500. Oh, and I forgot to mention that when upgrading, I got Steam game codes from AMD. So I got (before their release) Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, Hitman: Absolution and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon for free with my purchase. So take $200 off the price there just in games. Oh, and the MicroCenter I purchased them from added a code for Assassin's Creed III because I chose them for my purchases over Newegg or Amazon.
I have the PC hooked up to my 60" TV, so it's just like using a console anyway (and almost every game supports the use of Microsoft's 360 wireless controller with a $20 dongle), except that I can also do ANYTHING else (including watching TV/movies via MediaCenter) on it. All of the wallpapers I produce for the blog are done on the same machine that I game on.
Anyway, just my two cents. I know a lot of console gamers are timid when it comes to switching to PC, but my 360 hasn't been on since I rebuilt my PC. I'd at least look into it when the time comes to choose. If the title is going to be released on PC, you can bet that hardware companies will be putting more packages together that include them as a bonus for buying their component.
I don't play video games. I'm a grown-ass man.
If all I play is sports games which one is better?
PS3 or 360. They're still going to be supported for at least the next 2-3 years why get something new?
Microsoft addressed people in the armed forces without internet that they should just keep their 360's. This leads me to believe that they will release Halo 5 and Gears of War 5 on the 360 as well. EIther that or they were just being total condescending douchebags to people defending our country. Hard to say.
so, which is getting the NCAA CFB series?
It seems to be that Nintendo is dead in the water as well. The WiiU seems to be a flop and there just aren't many games with a WOW factor for that system anymore. Where is the next SMB? Zelda? Metroid? MarioKart?
I'd love to get a PS4, but there just aren't enough kids friendly games for my kids to play. and the WiiMotes are really simple for the kids to pick up and learn to use.
In a perfect world, Nintendo would get rights to NCAA, Star Wars and Batman games. That way my kids could play and I could as well, without having 2-3 consoles under the TV.
Mario you say? Just break out the N64 and all the Mario games. Still my favorite system