OT - Something MSU and UM fans can both agree on: Michigan > Ohio

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October 23rd, 2012 at 5:31 PM
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CLord
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OT - Something MSU and UM fans can both agree on: Michigan > Ohio

Since 1979,  in the major sports: NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, CF, CB:

The state of Michigan has 12 championships.

The state of Ohio has 2.

Ohio has an extra NFL and MBL team to better it's odds and to counter the fact that the Blue Jackets have not been in existence the entire time span. 

In college sports, Michigan has two major schools vs. Ohio's one.  Yet Ohio State does not suffer the same dilution of talent UM/MSU do within their own state, and thus would be expected to have a backyard edge toward winning championships.

The Tigers will soon make it 13 championships.

It's good to be a Michigander!


 

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October 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 PM | Ohio professional sports, top (Score:5 Normal)
urbanachiever
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Ohio professional sports, top to bottom, have got to be about as poor as any state's in the country. I actually think that this clearly fuels the statewide religious devotion to Ohio State

"I hope I can get a bunch of championships - like 15"

October 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 PM | Probably true for football. (Score:3 Normal)
bacon1431
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Probably true for football. Browns and Bengals have not done much more than a couple SB appearances and AFC Champ. appearances combined and nothing since the turn of the century sans a few playoff appearances. OSU was the only positive for football during this time.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
October 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 PM | In the 40's and 50's, and to some extent, the 60's (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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The Browns were actually pretty awesome.

Turn to today and their former coach is the best in the game with 5 Super Bowl appearances and 3 wins, and the owner who took the team away won a championship with what would have been the Browns if he had kept them there, and are still good.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 PM | I realize that. I have alot (Score:2)
bacon1431
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I realize that. I have alot of family in Cleveland so I've educated myself on the history of Ohio professional sports. I was speaking only of the 1979-present timeline that the OP presented (and later referenced since the turn of the century).

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
October 24th, 2012 at 2:15 AM | And if rivers catching on fire were a pro sport, (Score:2)
Muttley
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Cleveland would have a dynasty

October 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Have you heard of the Detroit (Score:0 Normal)
October 23rd, 2012 at 5:37 PM | Just curious (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Why 1979? It's interesting, just wanted to know why that date.

I wonder what it would be like all time.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 PM | That was the first (Score:1)
CLord
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That was the first championship of relevance for the state that I remember as a kid - when Magic won it over Bird for MSU.  Didn't hate MSU back then, but even as a kid I loved Bo long before attending UM.

October 23rd, 2012 at 10:51 PM | Yeah, just proceeding it (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Is a pretty dark time for Detroit sports, and just cuts out a couple of wins by the Reds. But if Ohio can pick the length of rivalry time to make The Game seem even, I'm cool with slanting this.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

October 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 PM | Salt in the wounds (Score:3 Informative)
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Indians fan here. It's worse than you can imagine. Endless existential futility for all eternity.

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

October 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 PM | Cmon Tribe! You can make the playoffs this year! (Score:3 Normal)
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...

images-1

Abort, Retry, Fail?

October 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 PM | If Memory Serves... (Score:3 Normal)
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Didn't the Indians win five straight Central Division titles in the 1990s, as well as 2001 and 2007? They've certainly scratched the surface of the playoffs a few times in the recent past. 

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October 24th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | Yes (Score:2)
ChopBlock
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and managed to blow a 9th-inning lead in game 7 of the '97 series.

Jose Mesa, you're dead to me.

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

October 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 PM | At least they have the Mud (Score:2 Normal)
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At least they have the Mud Hens.

Oh wait. The Toledo strip should be ours in the first place.

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 PM | The simplistic version of that story always cracks me up: (Score:5 Normal)
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Michigan and Ohio go to war, Wisconsin loses.

"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins

October 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 PM | Simplistic-er version (Score:4 Normal)
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Michigan and Ohio go to war over Toledo, Ohio wins, Toledo is part of Ohio anyway.

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
October 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 PM | Big deal. Starting next year (Score:3 Normal)
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Big deal. Starting next year when the Browns begin their unprecedented 12 year run of Super Bowl victories the gap will be narrowed a bit. I can feel it!



We stand poised on the edge of greatness. As we have every year since 1964 I might add....

 

 

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:12 PM | More little brother fun (Score:5 Normal)
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www.umrejects.com

www.msurejects.com

Hail! to the Victors Valiant Hail!

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:56 PM | Very nice (Score:2 Normal)
MGoSoftball
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Indeed.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:17 PM | But the Ohioans are having a pretty good year so far. (Score:3 Normal)
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The Ohio State University: 8-0

Ohio University: 7-0

University of Cincinnati: 5-1 (loss to Toledo)

University of Toledo: 7-1

 

 

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Too bad The Vest had to cheat (Score:3 Normal)
CLord
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Too bad The Vest had to cheat and deprive them of a chance this year to... oh who are we kidding?  OSU is mediocre at best this year.

October 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 PM | Maybe the ones who aren't paid. (Score:2)
M-Wolverine
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And Ohio State.

The rest?

Reds 97-65, but lose to St. Louis
Indians 68-94
Bengals 3-4
Browns 1-6
Cavs 21-45
Bluejackets 65 points, fewest in NHL. (When there was an NHL)

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 PM | Money feel like money (Score:-1 Overrated)
October 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 PM | Have to give Ohio pro fans some credit.... (Score:1)
GoBlueX2
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....while their teams are usually notoriously bad/choke-artists, especially Cleveland teams, the fans themselves are very passionate.They are the complete opposite of the type fans you find in areas such as Miami etc. I currently go to Miami (Ohio) and there is a lot pride in all their teams, whether deserved or not.

Ok positives over, let's go back to ragging on them please.

My dad played for Woody Hayes, and therefore I am a Michigan fan.

No matter what, I will graduate with a degree from U of M one day.

October 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 PM | ohio (Score:-1 Flamebait)
October 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 PM | What do you suppose a Ben Gedeon thinks... (Score:0 Normal)
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:13 PM | Section1? (Score:1)
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Come on man.  Are you kidding me right now?  The entire country knows that ohio has the worst sport teams ever.  The Indians havent made the playoffs in years, the Blue Jackets are a joke, the Cavs cant even keep the best player in the league: an he is from Cleveland.  The Reds made the playoffs but got bounced early.

The only thing going for that state is osu.  It pains me to say it but its true.  So you think people that live in ohio dont know this?  Do you think they have never discussed King James leaving? 

Frankly Im surprised by you Section 1.  You are better than this.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

October 24th, 2012 at 3:06 AM | Truth be told I agree with (Score:2 Normal)
CLord
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Truth be told I agree with Section 1.  I can understand bagging on OSU and specific sports teams, but I wouldn't call the place from whence came Charles Woodson, Elvis Grbag, Desmond Howard, Bo Schembechler, etc., a shithole.

October 24th, 2012 at 10:01 AM | Somehow, I just don't think that... (Score:1)
Section 1
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...telling Dymonte Thomas and Gareon Conley (among a half-dozen others) that they come from a "shit hole" no-sport state is going to be a part of Michigan's continuing efforts to hold their commitments. 

What do you think?  I'll let you consider that one.  I'll let even think about ways to re-phrase it, as long as you include the option of, "On second thought, don't even write such stupid stuff at all."

 

 

October 24th, 2012 at 9:20 AM | For the record I also live in (Score:2)
mGrowOld
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For the record I also live in Hudson, Ohio and have since 1987.  It is very nice and would remind most readers of Bloomfield Hills in addition to the cities you listed.

 

 

October 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 PM | So I'm guessing an Ohio team (Score:2 Normal)
keep_em_honest
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So I'm guessing an Ohio team won something in 1978 and that's why you picked 1979 to start the comparison...?

I don't have a problem with people picking dates if they're an important shift in history.  For example, most people use 1936 as the start of the "modern era" in college sports because that's when the AP poll started.

Picking a random date to prove a point makes you look extremely biased.

October 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 PM | The Cincinnati Reds won World (Score:2)
snarling wolverine
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The Cincinnati Reds won World Series titles in 1975 and '76.  But they're only barely in Ohio.

Fans of Cleveland pro teams haven't seen a championship since the Browns in 1964.  

October 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 PM | Cincinnati is actually part (Score:4 Normal)
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Cincinnati is actually part of Kentucky, thank you very much.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 PM | Whether you consider it Ohio (Score:3 Funny)
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Whether you consider it Ohio or Kentucky, Cinci still sucks and Skyline chili is the most overrated crap on the planet.

October 24th, 2012 at 8:27 AM | well (Score:1)
alanmfrench
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i was born in 79 so that's probably the shift. ohio fears me!!!!

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October 24th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | That's odd (Score:2)
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Ohio fans claim the modern era of football started in 1950. Football before that year was not football (except in 1942), but more a club sport with no real way of selecting the best team in the country. And if you really want to get technical, Ohio only recognizes 1951-1987 and 2001-2010 as countable years. Hmmm.... I wonder why that is?

On another note, for all the grief they give us about a split title in 1997 they sure won't ever discuss the following:

1942 title: AP Poll #1, Georgia #1 in all other polls. Ohio had 1 loss and didn't even go to a bowl game; Georgia won the Rose bowl

1954 title: Coaces Poll #2, AP Poll #1 shared with UCLA

1957 title: Coaches Poll #1, AP Poll #2 shared with Auburn

1961 title: Coaches Poll #2, AP Poll #2 finished behind Alabama in all polls

1970 title: Coaches Poll #2, AP Poll #5 finished behind Nebraska and Texas in all polls

Their only unanimous titles were in 1968 and 2002

October 23rd, 2012 at 7:05 PM | Cavs (Score:2)
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Cavs fans always irked me. As soon as Lebron showed up they all seemed to show up saying, " oh I am a huge Cavs fan, always have been." Then Lebron leaves and it is hard to find those Cavs now.



I am not a NBA fan at all so I don't have a rivals team grudge or anything. In fact, I think the Browns and Indian fans are some of the most loyal in all of sports.

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

October 24th, 2012 at 9:12 AM | So Cavalier fans are pretty (Score:2)
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So Cavalier fans are pretty much like all NBA fans?

 

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October 24th, 2012 at 1:23 PM | Those are the worst type of fans... (Score:0 Flamebait)
October 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 PM | Lets see... OSU Football and (Score:1)
spartanfan123
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Lets see... OSU Football and Basketball... then what else do they have? The Reds? Cincy Football/Basketball i guess.  Maybe Ohio football this year, and Ohio basketball last year.

October 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 PM | I've been a fan of the Browns for years (Score:3 Normal)
Don
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Once the Lions went inside under their sissy dome, I had to look for teams who still played outside to root for, and the Browns are one of them. They're just as pathetic as the Lions, but they play outside where football is meant to be played.


October 24th, 2012 at 9:13 AM | You forgot to tell everyone (Score:2)
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You forgot to tell everyone to GET OFF YOUR LAWN!

 

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October 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 PM | I'm from Pittsburgh and hate (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm from Pittsburgh and hate Ohio pro teams, so I shall support this as well.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
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