Dang it. Going to NC for break next week
OT: Snow day down south!!!
From the look of things being tweeted out right now, you should still be OK if you just bring a heavier jacket and some ice cleats. If you'll be near a beach or any place that might be prone to minor freezing, sand or kitty litter for some extra traction in the parking lot of the hotel.
I'd suggest purchasing snow shoes and maybe even a snowmobile.
2 inches here in Raleigh is comparable to 12 inches in Michigan or worse..no plows or salt trucks anywhere. I've had a few friends abandon their cars and try to walk home since traffic isn't moving. I don't know why they haven't cancelled this Duke game yet, it seems foolish to try and play it during a state of Emergency.
and people are kind of freaking out. (The Michigander in me is excited)
People in this town can't drive in the snow. I just ran out to grab something at the store and had to laugh at folks attempting to drive. I'm off work tomorrow and probably Friday too... So I'll take it.
Here in NY they are talking about up to a foot of fresh snow by Friday, which given the paucity of salt available because everyone decided to carpet-bomb the sidewalks in December, it should be interesting. NYers seem to handle the idea of snow better, but they still don't quite understand how it works in reality.
I'm getting pretty sick of these winter storms hitting the city. Some of these sidewalks are getting tough to navigate, with a lot of them having like a 6 inch wide clearing surrounded by piles of old snow that's been trampled into a bumpy ice sheet. Yesterday I was walking around and hit a few blocks that clearly have had no snow removal all winter; it made for some slow, gingerly, and certainly silly looking walks.
I like it just for the pure amusement of watching people step off the curb thinking they navigated the ice and snow only to watch their foot plow into a 3 inch deep puddle of standing water at each corner of every intersection.
I really wish the city would crack down on owners of buildings who don't shovel. I know several buildings where the front is a sheet of ice.
There is a nice little trail around our whole building that has become filled with doop pee, food wrappers, and whatever else tends to accumulate during a snowy season. I figure by June it'll be gone.
had a guy standing on the corner warning people of the ice that developed on an otherwise clear sidewalk. Now on a packed Acela headed to DC. (Running towards the trouble?) Not quite the last days of Saigon; Penn Station was civilized for once. (Perhaps due to the lack of a Ranger game that night.)
I got a picture of the blizzard that's brought dixie to its knees. Oh the humanity........
Not that Atlanta's recent freak out wasn't a completely avoidable, total over-reaction that made the city look like it was filled with idiots, but a friend passed along THIS article that was a pretty interesting incite into Atlanta's total melt down in the face of 2 inches of snow.
IIRC, Houston was gridlocked a few years ago with Hurricane evacuations. Some people wait too long to leave. And when you put too many people on the road, you have a recipe for disaster.
However, being from Chicago, which has been in the midst of a brutal winter, I'm a bit confused. We have close to 10 million people in the metropolitan area. This comprises a seven county area, with more than 200 suburbs surrounding the city proper. Even with the need for each different governing body to take care of snow removal, salting of roads, etc., they seem to manage. What is the difference between this area and Atlanta? Obviously, there are more resources to deal with snow and ice here (than in Atlanta.) Still, you would think that Atlanta could figure this out better then they did.
I remember that Houston gridlock. People were abandoning their cars on the highway as they ran out of gas from idling for too long. What a mess.
I'm not sure why metro Atlanta is so bad at coordinating amongst all the different towns. Maybe because they just generally don't have to very often. Also, I don't know about Chicago, but I believe Atlanta is notorious for being really poorly laid out and having terrible traffic/transit even in good weather.
To be fair, Chicago has the infrastructure in place to accomodate winter weather, while Georgia does not.
Sissy ass southerners.
Living here in the Concentrated Area of Relocated Yankees (and foreign tech workers) aka Cary, we get along OK until some real Southerner (or aforementioned foreign tech worker) comes flying through an intersection or across the road into you. That said the roads have 2" on them in the past two hours even though they salted.
Unfortunately someone invented the internet and telecommuting, so I still have work to get done. Otherwise I'd hop in the Jeep, drive up to Boone, and go skiing. As it is the kids have dusted off sleds and will head out to the hills.
Beyond that, there are Olympics to watch with hot cocoa in hand while DMV figures out how to use those snow plowy things or the sun just melts it off over the weekend.
Down in pinehurst area it was nasty. I ran out to visit some families for work and coming home at about 1pm US 1 had like 3 inches of snow with no plow in sight. Yuck
Hey, I live in Cary also. Yep, it took 1 hour 20 minutes for my typical 20 minute commute today. The roads were slippery but not that terrible. Some drivers were doing 5-10 mph on relatively clear roads. People were terrified I guess.
We are burried deep down here in Carolina.
Someone check those cars for survivors!
I am currently attempting to escape from Jacksonville,Florida. Most flights from Jax go through Atlanta, my flights for tomorrow were cancelled but luckily I snagged a nonstop to Chicago for this evening. Dumb ice storms.
Georgia is supposed to go from 28 degrees to 70 in just a few days. That is some weird and wild stuff.
Northern Georgia looked slated for 2/3" of ice or more, that's an incredble amount even for areas with the means to take care of it up north.
Snow is one thing, ice is another. If Georgia gets close to an inch of ice, there will be serious power issues.
I'm worried about the ice myself. In the event we lose power due to ice/snow, I dont feel confident that our towns (Wake Forest) utility company has the resources to get us back up in running.
I assume you mean a dusting of snow. Oh, southerners.
I think at least parts of this storm is more like inches of ice, rather than ices of snow, which is significantly worse, southerner or not.
I remember when I was living in Austin, there was a storm in which it hovered around freezing and just rained for like 2 days straight. I don't think I've ever seen ice coating that thick before. Plus, with no salt and long stretches of elevated roads, there was nothing to do about it other than just wait for it all to melt over the course of a couple of days.
there's not much that can be done. the bridges right now are about 1 to 1.5 inches of solid ice right now.
There was a Palm Sunday ice storm in Detroit in the late 70s or early 80s (I think). It made the whole city look like those Lake Michigan lighthouses during Polar Vortex I. There was a dazzling light show in the sky as transformers across the city blew up.
it's awful. I live across from a state trooper and had to help push him out of his own driveway.
It's snow on top of slushy ice right now.
It sounds like people may not make the UNC vs Duke game, so the doors may be open for anyone willing to attend
Well, I've had more snow days this week from my job teaching at Mississippi State than I had in four years of high school in Northville. The ice storm predicted for this area was pretty much a no show. We are having some lovely sleet at the moment, though.
About 1/2 inch of ice everywhere. MUCH less chaotic than last time bc no one is on the roads. Hope Charlotte learned from our incompetency in dealing w the last storm.
Hope they still play Duke/UNC, go Heels!!
I live in Durham and my wife works at UNC, it's taking her over three hours to get home from work today (we're both from Michigan, this is definitely about the area not having the infrastructure to deal with this weather). We talked about trying to make the game, but seems very unlikely (even though tickets are very very cheap).
I live in Durham and take classes at UNC, they shut down the University around noon today, and the bus getting out of campus that usually has 8 to 12 people was packed with people standing everywhere. Then my drive home from the mall that usually takes 5 to 10 minutes took about an hour.
My wife is a nurse and has to go to work tomorrow, I am hoping it clears up somewhat by tomorrow morning or her drive is going to be terrible.
I live in NC now, but grew up in Michigan. I make fun of southerners in the snow all the time, but it took me 2 hours to go 21 miles this afternoon. The big difference between the north and the south is that in those 21 miles, I passed one plow.. And that one plow didn't even have its blade down... It was just salting. Between that and the level of panic, it's just a different dynamic in the south when it snows. .
Depsite the terrible conditions on the roads, and the fact that Chapel Hill has shut down all buses and encouraged fans to stay off the roads, the Duke/UNC basketball is still on for tonight. I guess the Duke team is going to take a bunch of snow plows to get from Durham to Chapel Hill. Apparently there are already fans abadoning their cars 2.5 miles from the arena and starting to walk.
It's like Road Warrior and Thunderdome.
They just canceled it. The Duke bus can't get there. They were actually encouraging people not to come and were just going to let more students in. They probably should have canceled it hours ago.
Chicago gets snow every winter. They either have the equipment to deal with it or nobody goes anywhere for what, 3 months?
Snow is such an infrequent occurance down south, more of a once every few years event (even if we've had more than one storm this year) that it isn't economical to invest in much snow equipment. Plus, after a couple of days the weather returns to normal and the snow melts.
I moved down here from western PA 25 yeas ago. Maybe 5-7 snow events in N AL in that time? The worst was it stayed below freezing for about a week before the sun took care of it. And yes, I'm out of practice driving in the stuff, and no my car's not equipped for it. so like the locals I stay off the roads. Besides, the local response to precipitation (snow and rain) is drive faster!
Anything more than a quarter inch of ice is generally trouble...and it sounds like many places will be WELL above that mark, possibly up to ONE inch. An inch of ice means that power lines and large trees coming down is an inevitability, not just a probability.
Here in Winston Salem (near Wake Forest) We have about 5". Just hope the sleet stays away. Supposed to get 10"! I love it!!!
If they go to school on Friday, it's their last day before winter break next week.
We're making and eating a lot of food as there is nothing else to do. Taco's yesterday and pulled pork in the crock pot today. Lot's of beer being kept cold in the garage by the ice cold weather.
Duncan Hines dark fudge brownies are on tap for the evening!
We've also been getting hit pretty hard out here in the Silicon Valley area the past week. We've had a lot of clouds, and a couple of days ago it rained. This sucks, people are freaking out. We're all in this together, folks.
I'm in Raleigh and it is mayhem. I'm orignally from Michigan and was driving a 4wd Jeep and I was still sliding around like crazy, so these people down here don't stand a chance. No infrastructure for events like this.
about the UNC-Duke game. I had tickets to the game. I'm not so disappointed about class being cancelled.
I went to 04 game in CH when I was in grad school at UNC. Reddick was at Duke, and we lost on a last second shot. In any case, noise level was deafening the entire game. Never been to a louder sporting event in my life.
UM OSU in football, UNC Duke bball are best rivalries in their respective sports.
Stay off 40. These southern folks are NUTS!