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OT - Skip Bayless: Let's get rid of field goals in the NFL

Skip's at it again.  In his most recent column, he calls for the removal of field goals from football.

Field goal kicking is wildly exciting for all the wrong reasons. We regularly interrupt games to go for a ride on the equivalent of Disney's stomach-in-throat Tower of Terror. The scariest words for any fan are "wide right" or "wide left." Or, in the case of Buffalo Bills fans, "Scott Norwood."

This is why I have long proposed a change that will never, ever happen because it makes too much sense. Give place-kicking the boot.

That's right, eliminate it. Force supremely talented offensive players to keep doing what they do best: Make first downs. Fourth-and-5 at the opponent's 25? You have to GO FOR IT. And you keep going for it until you score six points or you're stopped. If you score a touchdown, you always go for the far more exciting two-point conversion.

I personally hate the idea.  I think field goals are a great part of the game, and to remove them would be to remove a traditional part of the game we all love.  But, I'm curious to hear what everyone's reaction it to this.
 
(Link here, if you want to read the res of the columnt/give Skip the page view that he so desperately craves)

 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:51 PM | Field goals add a huge (Score:5 Normal)
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Field goals add a huge amount of strategy to the game, on both sides of the ball. This is Bayless fishing for page views. The guy is a disgrace to humankind. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:54 PM | It has been proven time and again (Score:4 Normal)
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NFL coaches for the most part are pretty terrible at any sort of strategy with regards to calling plays (Run vs Pass) or going for it on fourth down.  

Honestly not having FGs would make for a far more exciting game, kicking as a whole is so unconnected from the rest of the game.  I think there is no way this is adopted in the short term, but kickoffs on the other hand are on the way out soon with all the injury concerns.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:36 PM | How about this for middle (Score:4 Normal)
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How about this for middle ground: keep field goals, but require any player who kicks to participate in at least five plays beforehand?  Then field goals would be kicked by regular players (as they are in rugby) instead of specialists.  Given that regular players probably would be less reliable, coaches would go for it more often but would still have that option if needed.

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February 1st, 2013 at 10:25 AM | Keep field goals (Score:1)
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narrow the uprights.  50 yard kicks are simply too routine for pro kickers.  Offenses basically have to make it to midfield for a guaranteed 3 points.  They should remain a part of the game but be made a difficult part of the game. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:42 PM | The kicking game is what (Score:1)
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The kicking game is what connects American football to its historic roots in rugby. 

 

Football is a dangerous game.  If they were really worried about player safety they should implement a weight limit.  Another good idea would be to enforce rules against leading with your head on both sides of the ball.  I'm against removing facemasks but could be easily swayed if it could be proven to lead to more propper tackling form.  Too often players just launch themselves like projectiles trying to put as big a hit as possible on the opposing player.

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January 31st, 2013 at 6:43 PM | With a weight limit... (Score:3 Normal)
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comes stories of players cutting weight in an unhealthy way (a la wrestling).  Media sources like ESPN will always find something to make a big stink about.  I say we switch to Sarcastiball.  

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January 31st, 2013 at 8:18 PM | So the game has nuances. It's (Score:3 Normal)
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So the game has nuances. It's the coaches' faults for not being able to handle it. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 10:20 PM | NFL coaches for the most part (Score:1 Normal)
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NFL coaches for the most part are pretty terrible at any sort of strategy with regards to calling plays (Run vs Pass) or going for it on fourth down. 

I disagree. This argument (the game theory argument Brian likes to make) is based on expected point values which is based on a large sample size.

However, football games never have enough of a sample size for these game theory percentages to hold true. So, you have to make the decision that helps you best in the immediate - not the decision that would help you a slight majority of the time over a long period of time.

CoE Class of 2007

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:52 PM | Most on ESPN are a disgrace (Score:4 Normal)
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Most on ESPN are a disgrace to sports media. Probably a reason why he is on ESPN 2 with Stephen A.(Racist) Smith during the day when people don't watch.

Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan HKY, 49ers, SF Giants, Sac Kings, Red Wings

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:50 PM | ugh. (Score:5 Normal)
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Instead of getting rid of field goals, why don't we get rid of self-righteous reactionary sports commentators?

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:51 PM | Skip Bayless is a attention (Score:4 Normal)
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Skip Bayless is a attention whore that is all.

Just do it!

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:51 PM | Don't get rid of field goals.... (Score:5 Normal)
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Let's not get rid of field goals, let's just kick Skip Bayless through the uprights instead of a ball. 

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:51 PM | World: Let's get rid of Skip (Score:5 Normal)
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World: Let's get rid of Skip Bayless

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:52 PM | No Skip, this will never (Score:3 Normal)
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No Skip, this will never happen because it makes NO sense.

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:54 PM | Skip Bayless represents (Score:5 Normal)
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Skip Bayless represents everything wrong with sports media today.  

All hail Hoke!

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:57 PM | im completely the opposite.  (Score:5 Normal)
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im completely the opposite.  I say we get rid of touchdowns and only fgs are allowed except, instead of 3 pts you get the yardage as points.  35yd fg = 35 pts, 20yd fg = 20pts and so on...

 

See anyone can make up moronic ideas on the spot.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:02 PM | 1 point (Score:3 Normal)
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For every yard of offense. Scoring records would fall



Is that more moronic? I tried my best.

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:05 PM | do you lose points for (Score:5 Normal)
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do you lose points for negative yardage?  this reminds me of..

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:41 PM | I understand your sarcasm, (Score:1)
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I understand your sarcasm, but I like that you found a way to actually hurt a team for driving too far downfield. Oh crap, we went 80 yards on that drive. Damn, gotta give up some personal foul plays to get it back to the 35 yard line so its worth more points! 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:56 PM | Getting rid of brunette girls (Score:1)
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Getting rid of brunette girls on the beach just wouldn't be right.

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:56 PM | I personally like field goals. (Score:5 Normal)
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Go Blue!

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:15 PM | I don't (Score:0 Flamebait)
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:'(

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:23 PM | What completely fictional (Score:5 Normal)
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What completely fictional movie is this from?

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:25 PM | Fuck you (Score:5 Normal)
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You were adopted

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:25 PM | LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I (Score:3 Normal)
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LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LALALALA

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:31 PM | I hate you. (Score:5 Normal)
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I hate you.

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January 31st, 2013 at 7:57 PM | Why?  Seriously, why?  WHY?  (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Why?  Seriously, why?  WHY?  WHY? 

This needs to be updated but hopefully repairs some of the damage you've done.

 

 

Go Blue!  Always!

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January 31st, 2013 at 8:14 PM | Wow everyone took that a (Score:3 Normal)
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Wow everyone took that a little bit to harshly. It was a joke. I like game winning field goals too guys.

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January 31st, 2013 at 8:39 PM | Mr. Reid, meet shitty joke (Score:2)
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Mr. Reid, meet shitty joke eel.

 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:56 PM | . (Score:1)
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He's obviously an act, I love how people still go for this stuff. This should be locked.

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:56 PM | This always makes me feel (Score:5 Normal)
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This always makes me feel better when Skip Bayless is being excutiatingly annoying.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:53 PM | Best clip of Skip Bayless (Score:3 Normal)
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that will ever exist

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January 31st, 2013 at 6:05 PM | False (Score:3 Normal)
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The best clip is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=44HQGlTUyh8

"Skip, be an analyst, don't be a douchebag"

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January 31st, 2013 at 7:53 PM | You're all wrong (Score:2)
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Special Teams means special times!

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January 31st, 2013 at 10:20 PM | this (Score:2)
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this was awesome - mucho thanks for posting. almost felt bad for skip.

 

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February 1st, 2013 at 7:36 AM | WATER PISTOL PETE JR.! (Score:1)
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I am proud that Jalen is on our side. . . 

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:58 PM | negged for posting anything (Score:5 Normal)
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negged for posting anything with skip bayless that doesn't involve flaying, impalement, or sewing up his asshole and keepin on feedin and feedin and feeding him.

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:42 PM | Bang them shits with a spiked (Score:2)
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Bang them shits with a spiked fucking bat

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January 31st, 2013 at 6:55 PM | I'm not sure sewing him up (Score:2)
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I'm not sure sewing him up would do much.  Skip Bayless typically has shit coming out of his mouth.

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January 31st, 2013 at 7:32 PM | homey cant talk if you shove (Score:3 Normal)
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homey cant talk if you shove nasty ass food down his throat while he tryna take a shit but cant

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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January 31st, 2013 at 4:59 PM | my first game at the big (Score:5 Normal)
natesezgoblue
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Joined: 05/24/2010
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my first game at the big house.

 

 

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:24 PM | First Michigan game I ever (Score:2)
MIMark
Joined: 05/05/2009
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First Michigan game I ever watched! What an ending.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:53 PM | Great moment (Score:2)
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Hoke looks like he's about to pass out from excitement.

Thank you Phil Brabbs and keep up the good fight!

 

"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"

"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:02 PM | This is such an old rant. (Score:1)
michiganman97
Joined: 01/31/2013
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This is such an old rant. Every year some one brings it up to get people talking.. that is all

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:04 PM | Getting rid of the field goal (Score:5 Normal)
Monte
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Getting rid of the field goal takes away the man who isn't as physically gifted as the others when it comes to speed, athleticism, and size. Sure you'll always have a few who have some of those characteristics but it gives the everyday man something to aspire to and brings a distinct diversity to the game unlike most others. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:08 PM | So essentially Skip Bayless (Score:3 Insightful)
a2_electricboogaloo
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So essentially Skip Bayless is trying to take away the only thing that the Skip Bayless's of the world can dream of doing.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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January 31st, 2013 at 6:28 PM | Precisely. I'm glad you (Score:5 Normal)
Monte
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Precisely. I'm glad you posted the video of Jalen shooting down Skip's credibility and the lies he has perpetuated about himself. 

 

The game has it's simple beauty with technique being the foremost of the bunch but most of the time it boils down to who is stronger, faster, and more adept at following simple instructions. Kicking brings a delicate balance to a game that is by most measures brutish.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:10 PM | I don't like the idea of (Score:2)
LongLiveBo
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I don't like the idea of eliminating field goals but I wouldn't mind if they revisited how much a filed goal is worth. I have always thought it strange that a kicker can have such a huge impact on a game.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:11 PM | Didn't the XFL already try (Score:1)
exmtroj
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Joined: 10/24/2008
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Didn't the XFL already try this?

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:11 PM | Like he said, it will never (Score:1)
goblue_17
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Joined: 08/06/2008
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Like he said, it will never ever happen. He is an attention whore.

 

 

 

"I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada."   -Britney Spears

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