Field goals add a huge amount of strategy to the game, on both sides of the ball. This is Bayless fishing for page views. The guy is a disgrace to humankind.
OT - Skip Bayless: Let's get rid of field goals in the NFL
NFL coaches for the most part are pretty terrible at any sort of strategy with regards to calling plays (Run vs Pass) or going for it on fourth down.
Honestly not having FGs would make for a far more exciting game, kicking as a whole is so unconnected from the rest of the game. I think there is no way this is adopted in the short term, but kickoffs on the other hand are on the way out soon with all the injury concerns.
How about this for middle ground: keep field goals, but require any player who kicks to participate in at least five plays beforehand? Then field goals would be kicked by regular players (as they are in rugby) instead of specialists. Given that regular players probably would be less reliable, coaches would go for it more often but would still have that option if needed.
narrow the uprights. 50 yard kicks are simply too routine for pro kickers. Offenses basically have to make it to midfield for a guaranteed 3 points. They should remain a part of the game but be made a difficult part of the game.
The kicking game is what connects American football to its historic roots in rugby.
Football is a dangerous game. If they were really worried about player safety they should implement a weight limit. Another good idea would be to enforce rules against leading with your head on both sides of the ball. I'm against removing facemasks but could be easily swayed if it could be proven to lead to more propper tackling form. Too often players just launch themselves like projectiles trying to put as big a hit as possible on the opposing player.
comes stories of players cutting weight in an unhealthy way (a la wrestling). Media sources like ESPN will always find something to make a big stink about. I say we switch to Sarcastiball.
So the game has nuances. It's the coaches' faults for not being able to handle it.
NFL coaches for the most part are pretty terrible at any sort of strategy with regards to calling plays (Run vs Pass) or going for it on fourth down.
I disagree. This argument (the game theory argument Brian likes to make) is based on expected point values which is based on a large sample size.
However, football games never have enough of a sample size for these game theory percentages to hold true. So, you have to make the decision that helps you best in the immediate - not the decision that would help you a slight majority of the time over a long period of time.
Most on ESPN are a disgrace to sports media. Probably a reason why he is on ESPN 2 with Stephen A.(Racist) Smith during the day when people don't watch.
Instead of getting rid of field goals, why don't we get rid of self-righteous reactionary sports commentators?
Skip Bayless is a attention whore that is all.
Let's not get rid of field goals, let's just kick Skip Bayless through the uprights instead of a ball.
World: Let's get rid of Skip Bayless
No Skip, this will never happen because it makes NO sense.
Skip Bayless represents everything wrong with sports media today.
im completely the opposite. I say we get rid of touchdowns and only fgs are allowed except, instead of 3 pts you get the yardage as points. 35yd fg = 35 pts, 20yd fg = 20pts and so on...
See anyone can make up moronic ideas on the spot.
do you lose points for negative yardage? this reminds me of..
I understand your sarcasm, but I like that you found a way to actually hurt a team for driving too far downfield. Oh crap, we went 80 yards on that drive. Damn, gotta give up some personal foul plays to get it back to the 35 yard line so its worth more points!
Getting rid of brunette girls on the beach just wouldn't be right.
What completely fictional movie is this from?
You were adopted
LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LALALALA
I hate you.
Why? Seriously, why? WHY? WHY?
This needs to be updated but hopefully repairs some of the damage you've done.
He's obviously an act, I love how people still go for this stuff. This should be locked.
This always makes me feel better when Skip Bayless is being excutiatingly annoying.
that will ever exist
The best clip is here:
"Skip, be an analyst, don't be a douchebag"
I am proud that Jalen is on our side. . .
negged for posting anything with skip bayless that doesn't involve flaying, impalement, or sewing up his asshole and keepin on feedin and feedin and feeding him.
Bang them shits with a spiked fucking bat
I'm not sure sewing him up would do much. Skip Bayless typically has shit coming out of his mouth.
homey cant talk if you shove nasty ass food down his throat while he tryna take a shit but cant
my first game at the big house.
First Michigan game I ever watched! What an ending.
Hoke looks like he's about to pass out from excitement.
Thank you Phil Brabbs and keep up the good fight!
This is such an old rant. Every year some one brings it up to get people talking.. that is all
Getting rid of the field goal takes away the man who isn't as physically gifted as the others when it comes to speed, athleticism, and size. Sure you'll always have a few who have some of those characteristics but it gives the everyday man something to aspire to and brings a distinct diversity to the game unlike most others.
So essentially Skip Bayless is trying to take away the only thing that the Skip Bayless's of the world can dream of doing.
Precisely. I'm glad you posted the video of Jalen shooting down Skip's credibility and the lies he has perpetuated about himself.
The game has it's simple beauty with technique being the foremost of the bunch but most of the time it boils down to who is stronger, faster, and more adept at following simple instructions. Kicking brings a delicate balance to a game that is by most measures brutish.
I don't like the idea of eliminating field goals but I wouldn't mind if they revisited how much a filed goal is worth. I have always thought it strange that a kicker can have such a huge impact on a game.
Like he said, it will never ever happen. He is an attention whore.
Only post skip bayless comments if they are related to Michigan sports. This guy is an idiot and we shouldn't spread his opinions.
Strong proponent of transitioning from old, archaic term "football" to newer, trendier, and sexier term "handegg".
Truly, he is a visionary.
Remember that time Jalen nearly made him cry? I think that was the last time I heard from Skip Bayless. First take has gotten really bad since it switched from cold pizza.
Back on topic, it would ruin the game.
Luckily I can ignore the first brother while still enjoying some Brava steak with enchiladas and mashed black beans.
If only everyone else would just stop watching ESPN when there isn't a game on this would all go away.
I was so floored the first time I heard they were brothers.
Thank god the good one went to Michigan.
Boy, Skip sure got the fuzzy end of that lollipop.
Wait whaaaaa? The Frontera Grill guy is related to the world's worst sportswiriter? Really? Learning that was worth this thread.
To bad he had to be....
Remember, all that matters is reducing the number of injuries. There are very few injuries on field goals. Therefore, I propose that we eliminate all plays EXCEPT field goals. Just 60 straight minutes of field goals. I would like to prohibit teams from attempting to block these field goals, though, since its conceivable that guys could get hurt doing that.
When will Skip Bayless be placed into the same Doldrums as Rosenberg, Valenti, and the other undesirables?!
When people stop watching / listening to him. Unfortunately, us participating in a 50+ post thread about one of his asinine opinons is not helping that cause.
I actually think it would make football more exciting, but it will never happen. I can't believe I actually agreed with skip on something....
Skip has no real sports knowledge. His ratings are fueled by an opinion so ridiculous that everyone watches just to argue with their TV, that's the point. As long as people keep feeding the troll he will never go away.
There's a reason they call it "foot"ball...because you kick the freaking ball.
Guy has too much free time on his hands
This is just another thing to toss out there to get people wriled up. I hate the "this will never happen because it makes too much sense" crap. That is such a bullshit statement.
Field goals are not guarantees and it is a risk that comes down to probability based on how far the kick is.
Let's pretend that we remove field goals in the game. This scenario is unlikely, but could happen:
Team A marches down the field and all of their drives, lets say 8 drives averaging 70 yards and 6:00 minutes each, end up dying at the opponents 10 yard line. Scores 0 points in this game.
Team B can't move the ball at all. They continually get the ball on their 10 yard line and can't move against a strong offense. They give up trying to move the ball and just start tossing the ball down field. They make a connection for a single 70 yard touchdown. They score 6 points (didn't read the article on extra points being kept or not).
If team A has a strong defensive showing, with only 1 break in coverage, and gets 48 minutes time of possesion to 12, with a split 280 yards in the air and 280! yards rushing, does team B really deserve to win?
I'd be interested to read more into the thoughts of the people that think removing field goals is a good idea. For those people I'd like to remind them to rewatch the Mich vs MSU game last year.
What a half-baked excuse for a piece of journalism.
Lets get rid of the oddly shaped ball, so the game isn't decided by a lucky or unlucky bounce
So Skip Bayless wants to eliminate one of the activities in Football that gives Football it's name? That makes a lot of sense. Let's just rid of all kicking in Football, change the name of Football to Manball and then Americans can start referring to Soccer as Football like the rest of the world.
Besides, nothing can match the "excitement' of a last second desperation pass from an opponents 40 yard line that's unlikely to be converted when you're only trailing by 2 points as opposed to a makeable but by no means automatic 50+ yard field goal. Yeah, right, field goals suck.
Do columns by Bayless include comments? Does EVERYONE who comments on his columns call him a fucking bloviating moron?
In the Bayless family, there had to be some true awfulness to counterbalance Rick. Unfortunately, somehow that pile of suck managed to get himself on ESPN and inflict himself on the rest of us.
I don't really have time to read this thread, but I'm betting that the general sentiment here is "let's get rid of Skip Bayless." If so, I agree with the general sentiment.
because it makes too much sense.
"It won't happen because it makes too much sense"
Is the opposite true? Are senseless things inevitable? Will the NFL start playing with two footballs at once? Will wide receivers be allowed to line up 20 yards downfield before the snap? IS SKIP BAYLESS INEVITABLE?
The only people i hate as much as skip are rick and mitch. rub a dub dub three hacks need to be drowned in a tub.
This is what you get when you type "Skip Bayless" into Google...
Skip Bayless is illuminati.
Even spell illuminati...
fuck it lets get rid of freethrows
Ben Wallace and shaq applaud this idea.
What if the player had to try to dunk from the free throw line instead?
Skip,what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
What if every play was a Hail Mary?
Exact thought before I even opened this thread.
My idea to make field goals a little more difficult in the NFL is to spread the hash marks out. That would potentially not give them a straight shot every time. Also, that would give a strong side and weak side on offense and defense, but I'll save that soapbox speech for a different day.
My comment is slightly off topic, but some think that the narrower NFL hash marks are helping the running QB/read-option become more prevelant in the league.
Just straight up getting rid of field goals without replacing them with something seems like a bad idea, but I'm generally pro reducing the importance of the kicker as much as possible. I mean really, the fact that so many games come down to what amounts to random chance bouncing off the the foot of some guy who hasn't really done anything up until that point is kind of ridiculous.
I think there needs to be some way for a team to elect a lower scoring option on 4th down, but it should be an offense vs. defense play, not a kicker vs. probability match up. Something along the lines of moving the ball 3/4 of the way from the line of scrimmage to the goal line. You get one play to score a touchdown, if you score you get 3 points, otherwise the opposing teams takes over at the original line of scrimmage. Obviously not perfect, but still better than field goals.
This is how I felt when the idea of replacing the onside kick with what amounted to a long 4th down play run from the kicking team's 30 yard line. Every opportunity to replace one-off unpracticed luck-of-the-draw special teams plays with actual offense vs. defense football is a good thing.
"Punting is an underrated art because of the strategy, skill and athleticism involved."
But then, by his figuring, putting a football through a set of goal posts about twenty feet apart from potentially over 100 feet away requires neither strategy, skill nor athleticism in any form. Got it, Skip.
Is it too late to try and have him removed from the Vanderbilt University Media Hall Of Fame? Clearly they could not have known this would be the result of allowing him to graduate.
Is Skip Bayless. I don't know why we even enterain this troll. I want to guess why he wrote this article and say to gain more site traffic. What you captioned was enough for me to read. I don't want to give him anymore site traffic. He's received enough already.
Get rid of extra points not field goals. The extra points are statistically automatic and therefore pointless in the pros. Force em all to go for two.
No, get rid of holders, bring back drop kicks.
has continued to remain on TV doing what he does is beyond reason. Next he will suggest doing away with singles in baseball and free throws in basketball. As for hockey, who cares?
I rarely get annoyed by the WWL, but I can't stand Bayless. Anything he says or proposes has a good chance of being ridiculous, or inflammatory, or both.
Who thinks that Skip's favorite team lost a crucial game on a last second field goal, or couldn't make the FG when it counted most? That's the only rational explanation for yet another column in which he proves that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I do, however, hate that hashes are narrower in the NFL thus making FGs easier because they are relatively straight. It always bothers me...you have the best professional kickers out there, and you make it as easy as possible for them? I think they should at least widen the hashes to collegiate level. It would make FG kicking more interesting and less of a guarantee. Of course, it by no means is a guarantee right now...but things would be much less certain if the game winning kick were at a significant angle.
Am I the only one who is oddly bothered by this?
Also, Skip Bayless is a complete moron.
if you want to watch one of their games
I love that guy's system. Play to win, no compromises, no wussing out and punting from the 50. I would love to see him get a shot with a decent college team and see if he can make it work.
They've had four losing seasons since WWII (1946, 1986, 1992, 1993), went 199-61-9 from 1933-1967 before becoming a four year college and have gone 388-147-2 since.
All told, they have an all time winning percentage of .724 to Michigan's .734.
i recommend that everyone stop paying attention after those three words
"skip bayless said..."
This approach will save everyone the energy of trying to understand, refute or ignore whatever this ridiculous person says.
thought that they could install ANOTHER set of posts inside the goal posts and if you hit or split those then you get maybe 4? or 5? points for being very accurate.
Also changes strategy quite a bit i think.
I am the Anti-Skip Bayless i guess.
MOAR field goals!!
Unless player safety is a concern, you can't keep changing rules. Leave our game alone please, and thank you. Are we going to use a golden power ball by Powerade brought to you by Visio and ESPN just on third downs because it has military target tracking technology? Stop playing with tradition, unless it helps people live longer, and better lives after they retire.
before Brunette Girls
Let this guy use Skip's head for every FG attempt for a few games; might knock some sense into the guy.
NFL field goals need to be more difficult. Whether that is done with wider hashes or narrower goal posts I don't care, but if the NFL field goal was a little more difficult it would make things more interesting without changing much about the game at all.
Right now as many have pointed out, NFL field goals are actually EASIER than those in college because you are never kicking from a wide hash. It's ridiculous for NFL kickers to have it easier than college kickers.
Now extra points? I could do without those. What is the success rate for extra points in the NFL? It has to be over 98%.