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OT - Simmons Macho Man article

Simmons can be hit or miss for me, however I know many people love him.  I have to give him his credit for this article. 

For any of you who are old 80's wrestling fans or less specifically of that generation it would be hard to sum of that era better that he does in his tribute to Macho Man Randy Savage.  It is an oddly touching read: 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110524

 

 

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:19 PM | Earlier today I posted an (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Earlier today I posted an article analyzing Michigan's linebacker depth chart over at pwtorch.com.

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:30 PM | since spiderman came out, (Score:1 Normal)
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since spiderman came out, everytime Michigan sacks an opposing quarterback I have enjoyed quoting this... Always seemed to be a pretty big hit when I was in the student section

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:31 PM | Really good read. Well done, Simmons. (Score:1)
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BTW, pwtorch sucks. pwinsider or f4wonline are the way to go.

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-Bob Ufer

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:47 PM | Wow... (Score:4 Normal)
ciszew
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Confrontational much?

I'm glad you like him.  He is just hit or miss for me.  I don't think that is worth calling me an asshole over.  It is just my opinion.  Chill out. 

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May 24th, 2011 at 6:56 PM | Not just you (Score:0 Redundant)
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I think he just called everybody here an asshole.  He must live in a shitty world...

 

 

 

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:50 PM | The internet - where everyone (Score:5 Normal)
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The internet - where everyone is a critic and an asshole.

How appropriate for you to close your comment with this.

wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:53 PM | Good read (Score:2 Normal)
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It's also super weird to respond to someone that calls a writer "hit or miss" by saying (1) that "you're going to like some of [the writer's] stuff more than others" (acknowledging the poster's point, more or less); and then (2) calling the poster impliedly an asshole.

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May 24th, 2011 at 4:08 PM | I like Simmons enough as a (Score:2 Normal)
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I like Simmons enough as a writer, but there is absolutely no writer in the history of the earth that is loved by 100% of the readership, and Simmons definitely has his flaws.  He sometimes relies WAY too much on dated pop culture references, ofentimes acts like his points are "unique" even when I've seen them on fairly prominent sites before, and he fixates far too much on Boston/NBA teams despite the fact that he is nominally a national writer.

All that said, the guy can bring his A game when he feels like it, and this is the result.  A very good article.  

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May 24th, 2011 at 7:14 PM | The last one is his Achilles heel to me (Score:2 Normal)
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Stuff like this article I love. But when he thinks people other than his ego and himself love a play by play of the latest Celtics-Lakers game (where the asides about the crowd are far more interesting than the basketball analysis), it loses me. It's also hard to set you up as an arbiter of all things NBA when you have such ingrained fan bias. I mean it works when Laker hating (who doesn't outside of LA?), but vs. every other team that Celts fans don't like, it's just silly.



It all also worked a lot better when Boston was more of a downtrodden sports town, with just fading memories of the 80's Celts. Now with the Sox, and Celts back, and Pats, and even HOCKEY, it's more gloating than suffering. And suffering, to a fan, is always more relatable than gloating.



This was great, though.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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May 24th, 2011 at 4:49 PM | Get off your lawn? (Score:2)
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Also, get off your lawn?

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May 24th, 2011 at 5:42 PM | Percentage of dudes who read (Score:1)
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Percentage of dudes who read comments on youtube and think "Simmons sent me here" degrades the rest of the dreck that have actually had sex with a woman. I'm setting the over/under at zero.

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May 24th, 2011 at 10:48 PM | Man. 1000x this. I get that (Score:1)
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Man. 1000x this. I get that Simmons is popular, but nowhere near to the extent that he actually is. Somehow people have been tricked into thinking he's insightful and that repeating the same set of 80's movie references is absolutely freaking hilarious.

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May 24th, 2011 at 7:40 PM | Voice of a generation (Score:2)
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Writing 3000 word articles? This generation is all "RIP MCHOMN, U pwned @ MW3, <3 ms Liz tho."

2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
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May 24th, 2011 at 3:34 PM | Macho Man was Awesome (Score:1 Underrated)
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Oh yeah!

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May 24th, 2011 at 3:53 PM | I don't agree with all the (Score:2)
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I don't agree with all the points Simmons makes, but the man can write. I could read his articles all day.

@pnbloem | Ultra-MGoBoard

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May 24th, 2011 at 4:06 PM | RIP (Score:3 Normal)
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RIP Macho Man.

A big part of the youth culture I grew up with in the 1980s

Nice piece by Simmons, brought back memories

Help My Friend Allison Fight ALS 

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May 24th, 2011 at 5:02 PM | You can count on Simmons to (Score:3 Normal)
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You can count on Simmons to kick ass on the wrestling front, especially whenever he waxes nostalgic about the glory days of the late 80's and early 90's.  Probably because wrestling is so similar to his other passion, the NBA.
 

R.I.P. Macho Man

 

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When I feel like I'm winnin when I'm losin again

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May 24th, 2011 at 4:54 PM | Simmons really captured it. (Score:1)
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Excellent read, and really captured the strange attraction that some people have to wrestling. Looking at the video, they did it so much better then than they do now as well.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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May 24th, 2011 at 6:45 PM | A heartfelt article ; here's a baseball article on Randy (Score:3 Normal)
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Yes, that was right in Simmons' wheelhouse and he pretty much nailed it.  I enjoyed his depth of feeling on the topic and the good writing.

For a more "reported" take on Randy Poffo, here's a nice article on SI.com which talks about what a freak of nature athlete he was and how much he loved baseball (playing in the minor leagues for a few years, incl with Larry Herndon).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/05/23/macho.man/...

It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, is just progress.

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May 24th, 2011 at 7:09 PM | I like the article (Score:-1 Redundant)
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I like it, but the title is dead wrong.  When pro wrestling was at its apex, Hulk Hogan was pro wrestling.  Anyone else, even those with more talent such as Savage, were riding his coattails. And while Simmons cites the Savage-Steamboat match as the best match in WMIII,  which I also feel it was, it was overshadowed by Hogan's historic bodyslam and pin of Andre the Giant.  

There are and were tons of people who wrestle better than Hogan, but none have every approached his status during that era.  Does that take anything away from Randy Savage?  Of course not.  Second-biggest star in the Hogan era was still better than everybody else.  Except, of course, Hogan.

 

 

 

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May 24th, 2011 at 7:23 PM | But wait, there's more... (Score:-1 Redundant)
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Here's an SI article remembering when he was "just" Randy Poffo, the baseball player.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/05/23/macho.man/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_bf3_a4

 

 

 

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May 24th, 2011 at 7:57 PM | R.I.P Macho Man (Score:1)
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I was pretty young when he was big, but good memories regardless.

"To hell with Notre Dame."

"You're my boy Lloyd!"

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May 24th, 2011 at 8:12 PM | Simmons' article is fine. (Score:2)
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Simmons' article is fine. Deadspin's is excellent: http://deadspin.com/deadwrestleroftheweek

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May 25th, 2011 at 2:25 AM | I met Macho Man in Cancun (Score:1)
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I met Macho Man in Cancun when I was 16, back in 2000. Went there with a friend and his family over Spring break. The first night there we went to Carlos and Charlies for some food and I wound up sitting almost back to back with him for over an hour while we ate. He had a large crew with him, and what looked like a Nitro girl, but he let us take a picture with him, and he autographed my paper driver's license. RIP Randy "Macho Man" Savage.

"We alway's did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view"

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May 25th, 2011 at 9:32 AM | Another good article in SI... (Score:0 Flamebait)
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If this hasn't been posted yet, this is a really good read, too...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/05/23/macho.man/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

Focuses on his baseball career and how hard he worked.  And he got baited in to doing an atomic sit-up.

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