OT: Should the Tigers make any moves before the trade deadline?

It seems like I've been hearing about this ace Turner for years now and how we can't afford to give him up in a trade but I have never actually seen why. Shouldnt he be at least playing by now if he's that good. Eventually the kid has to play. He's reminding me of Freddy Adu a little bit at this point. He must be 35 by now.

He's been really good recently too. I'm a Cubs fan and having watched him pitch a lot I'd say he's a solid 2nd or 3rd starter for sure. The defense behind him has cost him this year, as has a huge lack of run support.

In terms of what the Cubs will want/take, 1 word. Plastics.

Er... Prospects. The Cubs are in full "Win in 2015 or 2016" mode right now. We've got 2.5 pieces that are in the bigs right now that will be around for the future: Castro, Garza (the half) and Samarjza (sp? who cares, to hell with ND). We need help everywhere else and Theo is doing it in the minors. We just landed the Cuban, Soler, and he's got some guys in AAA that he likes, if you have any blue chip minor leaguers, we'd take them.

They should make a deal......at the right price.

Adding a SP and a 2B that is not an automatic out 9 times out of 10 would be a ideal. BP seems to have come around.

I really like the idea of going for Dempster abd I think we could get him for either Crosby or Porcello because the Cubs are looking for youth. Moreso I think we need to put together an offer for Greinke. Hes going to be a free agent and the Brewers want something for him. We could give up Castellanos and two of our three young pitchers Crosby, Porcello, or Turner for him. Will that be enough...well who knows. We should at least try.

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If we get Dempster I'd like to see how much more we'd have to give up for Darwin Barney. I don't mind giving up Turner but I wouldn't deal Castellanos at this point.

They should add a SP.  The batting will get better once Martinez comes back, but we need a pitcher.  That would leave us with Verlander, Fister, Dempster (if we trade for him), Porcello, and Scherzer. 

I happened to watch Jacob Turner pitch against the Durham Bulls Saturday night and really didn't come away impressed. He only gave up 1 ER, however only 2 K's and gave up a lot of solid contact to a dreadful Bulls lineup. I think his ceiling is more SP 3-4 rather than 1-2.

Dempster or Garza and a decent 2nd  baseman are a must.  Just imagine...... Verlander, fister, than Garza or Dempster... that's a pretty solid 1-2-3.  Porcello and Scherzer, yet inconsistent, are pretty solid 4-5s.  

Got to get a second baseman.  Someone who can consistently hit .260 and not wield an iron glove.  Maybe we could get Scutaro off the Rockies.

This might be a cop-out answer, but the answer definitely has to be yes for the right price. One issue I think we'll start seeing soon though is that there will be less sellers at the trade deadline with the extra wild-card.  A team like the Cubs might be willing to sell, but with more teams looking to make a run, it's going to drive the price up for a guy like Garza or Dempster. If you can get one of those guys without giving up your top two prospects I think you do it, otherwise I think you look at acquiring a 2B and hoping Porcello and Scherzer somehow sharpen up.

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The Tigers need to get Chris Getz to play at 2nd. He could hit in the 2-hole. Solid Left handed bat with good speed. And he wouldnt garner too many prospects. This team could also use another bullpen arm. 

Yes. Trade Verlander to the Yankees to prevent him from inescapably signing with the Yanks 3 years from now when his contract is up.

What is Brian Roberts status with the Orioles? I know he has been on the DL most of the year.

I'm more worried about DD making a deal and then signing every player he trades for to a 3 year 15 million dollar extension. If we're going after a rental player, let him be that.

Among AL second basemen, we have players ranking #18 and #19 out of 22 per ESPN when it comes to offensive production at second base, with Danny Worth hitting a cool .184 and Santiago hitting about .210. So, the average overall comes to .197. Actually, if you throw #21 - Ryan Raburn - into this, 2B bats .180 for the Detroit Tigers. To me, finding someone that can produce offensively here would seem to be a priority. I would be intrigued by the idea of going for Chris Getz, or perhaps from the NL - in the Getz salary range - you would have perhaps someone like Elian Herrera or Danny Espinosa, who aren't tremendous improvements, but Darwin Barney would be a good upgrade, I think, and I don't know that it would be painful to get him from the Cubs. Scutaro wouldn't be a bad short-term solution, but Barney is 27, I think, and could hang around for a while.

As to the OP's question, I wouldn't mind adding Dempster to the rotation - he's 35, but he is a good pitcher, has had success recently, and pitchers can still do well enough into their 40s that you migth get decent longevity anyway.

As a Cubs fan, and a growing Tigers fan more and more...this is a no brainer. Porcello for Demps would be a massive coup for the Tigers and a huge blow to the Cubs rebuidling efforts. Cubs will want to bring back quality and quantity for any and all trades we make the next two months.  Tigers will have to pony up an impact AAA/AA player, and then at least two more low A or a B level prospect for Demps.  Jed and Theo want controlable, young and talented players.  

Porcello, in my mind, needs to get sent down and work on a consistent delivery and throwing strikes down in the zone. I think with his service time that might mean DFA'ing him, but if he has some options, that would be what I would do.   His two seam fast ball doesn't cut and sink consistently, and he is prone to "cock" shots. 

Cubs will listen on Demps and Garza.  Tigers would be wise to make a play for either, but they will have a ton of competition since three AL east teams and Dodgers will be in play over the next two months. Watch out for the Rangers and Angels making a play for one or both as well.   Dodgers are said to want Demps, and will be linked to him the next couple weeks.  For me, and I mean no offense, but the Dodgers are my perferred partner for Demps, since Eovaldi could be the center piece in that deal.  He is a legit 2/3 arm, and has shown he can pitch in the bigs the last two years.  

Tigers need more than just one arm.  They have some issues, both overt and opaque.  

What about Vlad? He was released today from the Jays.