OT: Should the Browns have kept Hoyer?
As a long suffering Browns fan, I look to the Board for wisdom since I certainly do not see it in the Browns management. Should they have made an effort to keep Hoyer? Is McCown worth a three year deal? Does anyone think tha Manziel will ever be a pro quarterback?
Hoyer and McCown are interchangeable as far as I'm concerned. As soon as the Manziel experiment is over, maybe we'll make a real move, but I'm not holding my breath.
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And drafted Connor Cook.
And signed Drew Stanton.
...sorry, I hate the Browns.
No worries. We hate the Lions.
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And your username represents a guy who supports OSU, are you a buckeye?
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Momma was UM. Poppa was UM. Going to U of M games since age 7. Older Bro was UM Younger Bro was UM and I went to Cornell because at 5'11" and 180 lbs I was not going to play LB or strong safety at UM. Must say I wasn't good enough to play at Cornell either after ripping up my L knee as a sophomore. I did grow up close to Cleveland and my dad also had Browns tickets when I was a kid and I still have my pro afilliations there though I suffer along with my freinds who are Lions fans as well.
Go Big Red
RDT? How many users have multiple profiles?
No way man. They got a steal in McCown. /s obvs.
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How can a NFL franchise go so long without having a good or even decent QB? Looking at those names I just laugh at how bad they all were
This has to be some record right? The Browns have had more QBs in the past 12 years than some franchises have had their entire lifetime in the NFL post-merger I feel like...
Since Sid Luckman, the Bears last "Franchise QB", almost 60 different QB's have started for the Bears.
Something like 13 different starters just in the 90's alone. Only two times a guy started all 16 games during that 10 year period, Jim Harbaugh and Erik Kramer.
Did you not follow the lions?
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Not great, but decent. Definitely not one good enough to cover all the flaws on the rest of the team.
The lions have had Charlie Batch, John Kitna, and Jeff Garcia in the last decade or so just off the top of my head besides Harrington and Stafford. None elite but all decent. Their problems were more the rest of the team.
They're the Browns. I can't imagine a world without a really bad Browns team
as redskins fan I know all about bad qb's. trust me. saying that I find it funny that some lions fans act like they are NFL royalty all of the sudden.
MGrowOld will know...
Yes they should've but unfortunately the GM Farmer is unwilling to admidt Johnny Football is a bust and Hoyer was unwilling to "play nice" and tutor his currently useless ass. He wanted a legitimate chance to start and the Browns basically want a QB who will keep the seat warm until such time that JF learns the playbook apparently and can be put back in.
If I was the GM for the Browns I would've resigned Hoyer and then taken the best player (regardless of position) at the 12 & 19 slot. I would've beefed up the WR's & OL via free agency and given Pettine a contract exension and begged him to not quit this three ring circus.
Apply for the Browns GM job.
Why do you still have Brown's tickets but you gave up your Michigan ones? I'm not saying you were wrong at all for getting rid of the Michigan ones, I'm just curious.
Three reasons:
1. 30 minute drive vs 3 hours
2. Wife's dad was a charter season ticket holder (had the seats since 1950) and has his name on the front entrance of the stadium on a plaque with the other charter season ticket holders. When we got married in 2009 he gave us the PSL for the seats (dead on the 50 yard line - row 1 of the third deck) so I'm sort of obligated to keep them. He passed away last year so when we go we do so in memory of her dad.
3. I'm a masochist
I mean, Harbaugh and all....
I'm sure Jill and I willl catch a game or two in person this year.
Still singing The Victors right? I don't know the words yet to Hail & Unite
Manziel will not become a pro quarteback, but I don't think the Browns will do any worse without Moyer
sorry dude, the only people that ever thought JM was a pro qb is the Browns.
had his suspicions.
like a new logo.
You're telling me you don't have a Browns gif?
but you wouldn't be able to tell a difference anyway.
Go Dawgs!
can borrow a different team's warroom staff during draft day and actually pick a qb with decent potential.
CFL teams are too OT any day.
Then again, if there is a thread that polls the board for their thoughts on how Calgary sets up for this year as a force in the CFL, we will know exactly where to go to find the inspiration for such a thread, I imagine. Of course, looking at stats from last year, Calgary is not a bad bet to repeat for the Grey Cup.
Hoyer is 10-6 as a starter. He's the only QB since the Browns came back with a winning record and they let him go for Johnny Manziel (who sucks) and McCown (I don't even know his first name) who went 1-10 against the NFC South, the worst division in the league. As a Brown's fan, this doesn't surprise me.
I've only watched a few Browns games this past season, but Hoyer would be awful until the last couple drives to win the game. I actually like McCown more. With the Bears, he was able to win some games with decent numbers (13 TDs - 1 Int in one stretch). That team in TB was not very good while the Bears might have made the playoffs in 2013 if they would've stuck with McCown over Cutler at the end of the season.
I thought Hoyer played well until the center got hurt and the running game fell apart. At the point the lack of receivers and the alleged interference by the owner/gm doomed him. If he can get picked up by another team why stay with Cleveland?
At this point we have been through 20+ quarterbacks. Did they all suck? It seems like the QB's are not the problem. At this point I can't believe any QB would go to Cleveland unless it's their last option. Even at that point the CFL or retirement is likely the better option.
I have been a Browns fan for 35 years and it seems like the current level of incompetence is at a new level. That is saying something for the Browns. Why would any free agent, especially a QB, choose Cleveland? If I was a free agent and my agent told me to take a deal with Cleveland I would fire him.
Why are we talking about the Browns on this blog?
MGrowOld started it. Then they got new helmets. Now I guess all the Cleveland Wolvies are getting their 5 minutes that they otherwise would spend crying b/c 1) Life as a Cleveland Wolverine must suck 2) Browns lol.
Why don't they just watch Draft Day and do that. Duh.
They tried McCown already. He's in the upper half of the list!
his brother was worse.
his brother was worse.
His brother?
Worse, clearly.
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I thought their GM was Kevin Costner
could do a better job.
I talked to McCown's brother and I asked him if Josh got extra to babysit Manziel. He said it was going to be "interesting"..
Best picture I've seen! I'm not a Browns fan at all but damn that puts it in perspective! Ouch!