Ya'll are soft.
OT: Sherman's Explanation
That's a hell of an accusation coming from socks.
You win today's internet
You know, I was just thinking that "Lord Grantham" totally sounds like a slavemaster's name...
(for those who can't understand sarcasm)
Negged for not having the balls to stand by your statement without having to imply that you were being sarcastic
It only takes one dumbass to ruin the fun for everyone, hence the caution, especially with issues like race, especially especially when race is a significant part of the current thread...
Grant Hill's a bitch.
'Dobt judge a person on what they do between the lines"
Okay, what about afterwards when you're in a suit and tie answering questions during a post game press conference?
At first I didn't have too much of a problem with what he said, but in the end I think he was and is a douche.
Yep. And the whole idea that being on the football field somehow makes idiotic behavior acceptable is kinda dumb.
so downton abbey season 4? kind of weak imho. I am so mad about Mathew, the show doesn't work without him. Watch North and South, best drama ever.
Jesus how about a spolier alert?
nooo, sorry bro. I assumed you would be caught up and safe to say no one else on this blog watches it lol
Fine, but Mr. Carson will now kick your ass.
Where getting caught in your emotions doesn't happen..
People who use that phrase to excuse behavior in sports act like emotions don't occur in any other area of life.
Also to all the people with the racially-tinged insults about him being a clown or uneducated, dude has his own column on SI.com. Even better, its on MMQB, which is the closest SI has to Grantland.
I don't think anybody should think he's uneducated. He graduated from Stanford, and they don't let just anyone in there (even athletes). I do however, think he has some sort of chemical imbalance or some competitive issue that causes him to get a little crazy at times.
Many of the greatest/best/elite at many things in life have some kind of imbalance.
Oh, no doubt. Everybody is wired differently.
Herschel walker... Chemically unbalanced hulk beast who doesn't know who he is half the time and could destroy me in minutes, though I'm a few inches taller than him, about forty pounds heavier and quite a few years younger. Talk about odd wiring in superb athletes!
Who the fuck WOULDN'T be jacked after making a championship play against "the greatest pass catcher of all time" to send your team to the Super Bowl. Especially when said pass catcher has been a douche to you personally for the last 8 months?
People are just seeing those 30 seconds without context, being all high and mighty, and rushing to conclusions.
If you could've done what Sherman did in that exactly situation, I'd be impressed if you managed to just avoid cussing on national TV. For the record, Sherman didn't break any FCC rules - was just excited, amped, and happy to have exacted to some revenge.
Don't hate the man for saying some real shit for once.
I'm not hating on him at all. I use the term "crazy" loosely. Just in the sense that he gets a little more instense/oustpoken than others in situations when the juices are flowing.
But there are plenty of athletes that act in a different manner in similar situations. And there are plenty of athletes that act the same.
What I'm saying is you don't know what Crabtree told him in the month preceeding, whether it was something personal, about his family etc.
I mean if people don't like his style, that's one thing. But he didn't really break any rules, didn't make anything up. He just spoke his mind. Respect the man for at least having the balls to do that instead of hiding behind cliches. Don't denigrate him for being different, outspoken, bold, honest, or black. Most of the criticism and vitriol being flung at Sherman is rooted in these reason's I've just stated - not for not being "sportsmanlike".
Crabtree might've told Sherman his wife tastes like honey nut cheerios, for all we know...
Sorry, but these defenses of Sherman are ridiculous. If the excuse for Shermans behavior (not just the interview, but his taunting and ass smacking after a 40 yard run after a defeated opponent) is that Crabtree talked shit, or started a fight earlier....then what is the excuse for his rant at Tom Brady? I suppose Tom Brady was talking major trash the entire game? Bullshit. And all of the excuses are bullshit. The man is an ass who happens to be good at football, which still makes him an ass.
That's just the Adderol talking. Sherman didnt get suspended like his partner Browner cuz I believe he had a Dr's Rx for it to help him get through Stanford. Why he's still testing positive for it a few years down the road, I don't know. But I guess it can make you "act crazy" and even talk "real shit"
Oh you mean Adderall?
The reason why Sherman didn't get suspended (like Browner did) is because of improper handling of the sample. The cup was cracked, and so the sample was tainted.
And he hasn't tested positive since has he? Seems like he's been clean too, especially since you can be sure that the NFL is testing him like gangbusters.
"People are just seeing those 30 seconds without context, being all high and mighty, and rushing to conclusions."
Nah - I'm seeing it with context.
I see him acting like an ass, with the context of repeatedly having done so in the past.
It isn't like this is his first time doing something like this.
Besides sounding unhinged in the interview, I didn't have a problem with it. I had a bigger problem with him walking up to Crabtree after the interception to talk shit.
You just won the game and are headed to the Super Bowl. Wouldn't you rather enjoy and celebrate than act like a big swinging dick? I was half hoping Crabtree would deck him for being such an ass.
I have seen/heard many Sherman interviews locally. He is a very intelligent and thoughtful guy. He may express things in very flamboyant manner, but describing him as a thug couldn't be further from the truth.
The idiots/racists on Twitter on the other hand...
I haven't seen or heard anything that could get him legitimately labeled as a thug. I don't know what he's saying to opponents on the field or his actions off the field and those are the things that might make him a thug. But we don't know any of that stuff, so what can we even say about him? I don't think any of us would have labeled Aaron Hernandez a thus based on what we could see on the football field, but once his off the field life was exposed, it was obvious he was a thug.
Actually they apparently do let just anyone in there if they are an athlete. If you look up Sherman's recruiting profile on Rivals or Scout his SAT was less than 1000. I doubt if anyone gets in with that bad of a score if they aren't an athlete. I don't know if affirmative action can even make up for that bad of a score. Also, I would imagine his major was something like communications, kinesiology or general studies.
His sat was not under 1000 and he graduated from high school with a fantastic GPA. He also graduated Stanford with a 3.9.
Actually, his SAT was below 1000 as reported by both Rivals and Scout. Scout also reports a retake of 1060. He comes from a joke HS, hence the inflated GPA. Also, his major at Stanford was communications, not exactly impressive. He might be smart for a football player, but he is still a football player and never even would have been considered for admission to Stanford on academic merits alone.
3.9 GPA is an A average at my respective university. I don't care which program you're in, that is really impressive. I hold a fairly solid GPA in Finance and know I could not attain the same GPA in communications. Might be a douche, but a smart douche.
Every NFL teams has guys like this? I kinda doubt that, considering this is pretty much the first time I've ever seen someone act like that in an interview.
I mean sure, there are guys who think like that and probably talk like that on the field, but isn't the whole issue here that he did it in an interview?
Trust me, no part of me wants access to that Richard Sherman's mind. And I'm not flipping my shit. I'm just saying that I thought the behavior was classless and very immature.
Soooo, don't speak your mind is basically what you're saying.
And we've never seen (read) someone being condescending for no other reason than to be condescending on the internet.
Lol from the 25 second clip that i have seen its nothing...Tom Brady does just as much in his antics on the field but because he did it in a interview hes a bad guy
Every team wishes they had the best corner in the league to be given that opportunity.
Hard to find a guy with more issues than him. He did most of his damage on Twitter because the Lion's haven't played in a Championship game in a while. (long while)
I realize even the Lions didn't keep him long but he had a lot of issues. I'm also not trying to compare Sherman to Young. As has been stated, Sherman went to Stanford so I have to believe he is an intelligent guy.
On second thought, a Lion probably doesn't count when talking about professional football.
Considering the nature of the Sherman-crabtree matchup, with the bad blood and all, the interview was similar to something you'd see in the streets after a fight where one guy wins and somebody asks what happened: "the motherfucker's been fucking with me since last year for no real reason. He's been talkin' for the last hour, so I got sick of it and tore his face off! Tell him and everybody he knows that he better not ever say my name again, or I'll be back to give him some more!"
He's not a robot. The guy just made the biggest play of his career, I expect him to show some emotion.
He didn't swear or say anything nasty so what's the big deal. He just has a big mouth and ud assume they'd have some hate towards each other since they play each other twice each season. I just think he needs to learn to calm down a bit. Calling Crabtree a mediocre receiver makes his defense look bad he burned them a few times. Kinda sad for the best defense to struggle against a mediocre WR
one was a questionable defensive holding and the other is pass deflection for a INT. Result with Crabtree lining up against Sherman is 0 for 0.
Questionable? Yeah compared to assault but that was a no doubt about it penalty.
I'm totally fine with all of this, and actually I think it's quite refreshing. Trash talk happens all game every game, and if you don't believe that you're just fooling yourself. Even many of our favorite Wolverines talk a lot of shit. It's a part of sports. Sports aren't a big deal. Trash talking isn't a big deal.
I love what he said about not judging a person based off of what they do while playing a sport, rather what they do for their family and community. Fact is, people are much more upset about this than they have been about any serious off-field incidents of any player in a long time. You want something to be mad about? How about that! The fact that people are getting so riled up at one guy's adrenaline-fueled trash talk after sending his team to the Super Bown is ridiculous in my opinion. Players have personalities and I'm glad that Sherman isn't afraid to show it.
As for Sherman's history with Crabtree, I'm sure it goes both ways. Both players are known to talk trash and I doubt either one is any more at fault than the other. But that's a part of sports, and it's really not that big of a deal.
sounds like Sherman needs a hug... Aaron Andrews was right there and he didn't even try.
than his sister Erin?
Aaron Andrews you say? I guess a bro-hug may have made him feel better but I think a hug from Erin Andrews would be much better.
between Ann Arbor and Alcoholics Anonymous I got AA on my brain...
She makes my skin crawl. Seriously over rated.
The guy will be trying to renegotiate his deal this off-season before he turns into a free agent next year. He has ESPN, CNN and even MGoBlog all talking about him. Everybody knows his name and will be watching to see how does aganist Manning in the Superbowl. Every Superbowl needs a story - he just became the story for this one.
Well played, sir, well played.
Sherman's column at MMQB is linked in this article here and is worth a read if you would care for his perspective on the matter. Click here - HERE - to read.
He talks a little about the history of his dislike for Crabtree, and he is even critical of some Seahawks fans for one particular incident:
One thing I can’t accept is what I read after the game about Seahawks fans throwing food at 49ers linebacker Navorro Bowman as he was being carted off the field with his knee injury. If it’s true, it’s beyond terrible. That’s as low as it gets. I’m sure whoever did this is in a small minority of fans, because I don’t think that kind of action is an accurate representation of the character of the 12th man.
They should review the video, find every single person who threw something at Bowman, and ban them from that stadium for life.
They probably will, and may even press criminal charges...
These guys need to learn to modulate their testosterone levels.
I'm sure the NFL loved Sherman's outburst, justified or otherwise.
I watched Brady's post-game presser...you could tell he was dying on the inside, but patiently and respectfully answered way too many silly questions than he shoud have.
Is this one really that hard? The guy acted like an a-hole and reflected badly on his team, the game, etc. He just shouldn't have done it.
But it's sports and he just got caught up in his emotions! And he's a great player! And once Crabtree tried to fight him! And he went to Stanford!
It's amazing what people will try to come up with to disregard athletes acting like children.
and sitting emotionless/motionless under a large saffron-yellow diaper.
want an automaton for a football player by indulging in hyperbolic straw man comparisons, then you're going to get called on it.
not saying that sherman should be impressing anyone.
what im saying is that he's free to express his emotions, and if people can't handle some candor and emotion and just want pre-packaged cliche and coach-speak, that's THEIR problem.
I think there's probably some middle ground between meditating monk and Richard Sherman.
after MSU's victory over UM this year, everybody here would have been totally fine with it.
Wish I could upvote this more.
I wouldn't be happy, but if jeremy gallon had picked a fight with dennard during the preseason and devin funchess had been talking trash all game, then i'd have honestly said we had no leg to stand on.
when there is undoubtably trash talking going both ways and we don't know what led up to that non-fight. Would you be so quick to take Dennard's?
it depends on the situation. i DO feel comfortable taking sherman's side here, because i've watched him and the niners all season long (yay sunday ticket + redzone!). ive watched every playoff game. i know how both of these teams operate. and sherman is an intelligent enough guy that he wouldn't stick his dick out like this if knew it could all turn on him in a second. if it turns out that sherman was 100% at fault all along, then i'll happily accept my comeuppance.
id need more information to make a proper call on the hypothetical situation proposed here re: dennard, because right now its no different from fairy tales and unicorn farts.
of Sherman's brother in a Seattle paper and don't think there may be some bias involved. We don't know the whole story behind this, but Sherman's action on the field with slapping Crabtree on the backside and the choke sign both should have been flagged and weren't. Football is the greatest "team" game in the world and Sherman's interview was all about him.
Trash talk during a game is one thing acting like an a** during a post game is another. Especially when its from a Stanford grad who majored in communication.
I'm taking Sherman's OWN words as they are: http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/.
If Crabtree would like to refute Sherman's claims, he's more than welcome to clarify things. We'll all be waiting...
Why should Crabtree refute Sherman's claim to you or anyone else? He can just smile and let Sherman twist out there on his own. I am glad you used caps to emphasize the fact that Sherman said something though. We might have missed it.
"We"? Are you the president of the fan club, or just knight protector?
"We" as in people of the world.
Crabtree would refute to say that he isn't a punk who picks fights during the offseason and then gets all sadface when he gets his ass handed to him...
Bandwagon fans are cute.....
Me and my friends are the same way with video games, cards, board games everything if you talk mess and can't back it up i'm going to talk mess once i show you who's the best
"When you try me with a sorry chutes and ladders player like LordGrantham, that's the result you gonna get!
Sherman better have a helluva game in a couple weeks.
What if he doesn't? What if manning torches him? What does it mean for this just-passed game or the rant that came from it? Deion's been torched. Charles woodson's been torched. Rod woodson's been torched. Barry Sanders was shut down in green bay. It doesn't mean much, really. Oh, he can't claim to be the best because he got his lunch eaten against manning? Did manning's loss against the saints define his career or did it make him less great? Did tom Brady's loss to the giants that ruined the undefeated season change your perception of him? The one game is a big game and the spotlight is on him, but I don't think it'll break Sherman's career if he doesn't do well. He's what--three years in, right? Long ways to go before he hangs it up...
In Manning's case his career will be defined by this game. If he doesn't get another ring he will be great but won't be the best QB of this era. If Peyton gets another ring he will be relieved more than anything. As for Sherman I know one game won't define his career but if you claim to be the best you have to show up in big games. I guarantee you he gets targeted more than once while checking D. Thomas.
Fuck this explanation. The guy is that douchebag in grade school that baits you into punching him with his antics and then runs and cries to the teacher and acts like he has no part. From coming after Tom Brady multiple times, Megatron, Trent Williams, Jim Harbaugh, the 49ers now, Skip Bayless, Twitter wars against Revis....you name it, he's involved in it.
I love trash talk on the field, ice or court. Kobe, MJ, Reggie Miller....totally fine with it and I embrace it. Sherman needs to leave it on the field and act like he's been there. He's in his 3rd year in the league.
Skip to 53m 15s...
Sherman IS a modern day NFL Reggie!
... was to bring to an end the civil war by breaking the south's strategic, economic, and psychological capacity for warfare.
Isn't the fact that virtually no other players in major league sports behave this way in interviews a pretty good indication that's it's probably not the greatest thing to do?
I didn't suggest that all other pro athletes are well-mannered.
virtually no other players in major league sports behave this way in interviews
all after spending multiple threads saying things like:
I'm just saying that I thought the behavior was classless and very immature.
Yes, I said virtually no other players act like that in interviews. Then you posted pictures of a select few players who have done bad things in life. I have no idea how that is supposed to refute my point.
well, what exactly is your point? that sherman was kind of a jerk on national tv?
Especially if you adjust for changing cultures...
Uh this refutes nothing. Ali was one guy. I'm not sure why you're struggling so much with this.
He's not a thug and he's not dumb, and people whose criticism of Sherman on those grounds have their own issues. But the way he reacted is unprofessional and immature. It's also selfish to use that forum to brag about your individual skill set in a team game and to demean your opponent while he's down. Even if Crabtree was a jerk to him in the off-season and all game long - it's called the high-road - and Richard Sherman doesn't use it.
That's just his agent getting involved with spin control. Remember he just lost millions in endorsement opportunities and his agent would be pissed.
He's still a fool.
overly excited about. The media put a camera on Tom Brady walking into the locker room. They do that hoping to capture a "moment", and Sherman happened to give them one. If they want a polished interview, let the team shower and come down from whatever mental state they have to be in to play pro football. I'm not especially fond of Sherman or his coach, but come on - he didn't commit a crime. The best way to avoid this is to get rid of sideline reporters and make the players off-limits. It almost strikes me as hypocritical for people to shout about players being tough, or having mean streaks, or playing at a high level, or any number of other phrases, and then complain when a player demonstrates that very thing. Until we have robots with on/off switches, we will witness human behavior.
"Pride before the fall"
Looks like Ann Arbor Torch & Pitchfork stocked up on soap boxes since the Borges firing.
The game was pretty good too.
Yeah it was. Hopefully the super bowl lives up to it...
Cant wait to see the best WR corps in the league face the best secondary, and the best QB face arguably the toughest pass rush.
On another note, QBs targeting Sherman this year have an average rating of 39.4. That is insane.
Kind of hard to believe some people are clutching their pearls over a pro athlete saying he's the best CB and Crabtree is a sorry receiver. I think his statements were tacky, especially after the win, yet funny, but certainly not worth this sort of scrutiny and coverage.
Edit: I don't know what the hell Sherman was thinking when he tweeted that crap about Tom Brady. He's on my list!
not so much. I get the being amped up thing and being excited that you just made the play to go to the SuperBowl, but his "excitement" seems a lot more like anger to me.
My biggest problem with him is he seems to always insult someone personally in each interview. He calls Crabtree "mediocre", he calls Skip Bayless "ignorant".
I am certainly no judge on who is the best corner in the league, but I can tell you one thing...
If someone is the best, truly THE BEST at something, they shouldn't have to tell anyone. Because, if you are truly the best at something, everyone else already knows. If you have to keep telling everyone in every interview that you are the best at your job, then you must not be the best because you think you need to announce it all the time.
Calvin Johnson is the best example of this. He is virtually regarded as the BEST receiver in the NFL right now. The only player that would strongly disagree is Dez Bryant (enough said there). Calvin Johnson has never done an interview where he says, yells or even hints that he is the best. He proves it on the field and everyone ELSE is saying it.
THAT IS CLASS. If you are truly the best, you skill and performance will prove it, you don't need to tell everyone.
I don't know about this: "If someone is the best, truly THE BEST at something, they shouldn't have to tell anyone." Sherman is a damned-good commodity, and he is, perhaps, the best of his type of commodity. He's also his own promoter. Every time you see an auto commercial, you see a commodity that the voiceover guy tells you is "the best in its class." If someone is the best, and he or she doesn't tell you, somebody certainly will. The stats don't speak for themselves all the time. A guy with 35 picks in his career may not be as good as a guy who has 12 and played for the same length of time. Stats don't count the way some players discourage throwing toward them.
I have absolutely no problem with Sherman's claim or his anger. I wouldn't do it, 'cause it's not necessarily in my genes to be that guy, but, then again, i've never knocked down a pass against a guy I don't like to send my team to the super bowl. Oh--my bad... I meant I've never knocked a poorly thrown pass away from a guy I don't like into my teammate's hands to send our team to the super bowl.
Bayless isn't ignorant, he's just a troll. I wish I could embed (or knew how to embed) on my phone the clip where Bayless compares Sherman unfavorably to Revis. Sherman puts Bayless in his place, and ever since then I've liked Sherman. Bayless is a hack with no credibility, who does no research and writes and says things simply to get people riled up. Sherman was drafted in the 5th round, an overlooked player converted from WR, who turned himself (with great coaching) into the best in the game. I love players with things to prove and chips on their shoulders. To see millionaires still have raw uncontrollable passion is what makes this game worth watching, and I support the hell out of Sherman for showing emotion after the biggest game of their season to this point.
I think the "who knows what Crabtree did/said to him" argument is hilarious. As if the stuff doesn't happen on every play of every game. Some guys have humility and class, some don't. Some guys can control their emotions and not spout off, some can't. Some people are assholes. It is what it is. I had dinner with an MLB reliever (he was a HS teammate of a friend of mine) a few years ago. He was saying how some guys that fans and media despise are actually great guys and great teammates, they just can't keep their mouth shut. He pointed out that he loved playing with Sheffield and Manny Ramirez, but a lot of people thought they knew what they were like because of the media. He said Sheffield could go 1-3 with a bloop single and another guy goes 4-4 with 2 HR and there would be 15 media members at Sheffield's locker because if they asked the right question, he'd give them a gold nugget. They'd try to tell him to walk away, but that's not who he was. Just the way some people are.
I don't really care what Sherman said as long as he doesn't start making personal attacks against his opposition. Yes, he's got a big mouth, but you can't sit there and say that he doesn't back it up. He does, and he does it well.
He is the best at his position right now, so in my book, he's earned the right to talk some smack. Football is a mental game as much as it is physical, and I think he knows how to get inside his opposition's head. If you could do it, wouldn't you?
Just keep it about what happens on the field, and you won't hear any complaining from me.
and still going strong. Dude, you are the one person I want in Pasadena sticking up for the Wolverines. You could take on all of Socal and not even bat an eye. Trojans suck, Go Blue!
Sherman doesn't seem like that bad of a guy to me.