I'm going to be very pissed off at the NHL and NHLPA should this be the only thing he receives punishment wise.
to play football, not to play trumpet
This is an example of why I think the NHL is a shitty league. Why do guys feel the urge promote their "tough guy" persona? College hockey is high quality and entertaining w/o these shenanigans. The NHL= Garbage.
College hockey isn't near the high qualtiy as the NHL
For some reason, I find the gap in quality of play between college and pro to be much more noticeable in hockey than in football or basketball. Even so, I really enjoy college hockey.
Because college hockey is not the main option for young players like it is in basketball or football. Also, hockey is a more international game.
There are all these factors, and then you run into the fact that, while a college football team can run schemes that look like the Patroits, or a basketball team can run plays that look like the Lakers, it's almost impossible to replicate NHL-style play without NHL caliber players (not to say that any college team could install an NFL WCO playbook, only that you can dumb down the offense and get the same feel, whereas Red will not be running much of anything that Babcock can run).
Like the guy below says, the passing and timing in the NHL are both light years beyond college, and that's more noticeable than, say, football, because it's such a back and forth sport. I would venture to say that soccer and lacrosse have the same gap hockey does, because their nature is more akin to hockey than either basketball or football is.
I've watched the NHL longer than college hockey, but when I started getting back into watching college in the last ~5 years, the biggest different I noticed was the passing. When you watch the NHL (the Red Wings, in particular), there is much more tape-to-tape passing and everything is much more crisp. In college, the kids, while skilled, fumble around with the puck a LOT more, which makes it seem like markedly lower quality to me.
everyone can skate and skate well, are there are some very large men playing NHL hockey
Yes, I would just like for them to play hockey instead of behaving like a bunch of zoo animals. NHL quality is better, attitude is not.
The NHL should take a stronger stance on hits to the head. The NFL is finally getting the message of the long term effects of concussions.
The Wings get no respect. Had Weber slammed Crosby's head into the glass, he probably would have been done for the series.
Bettman would have ran out on the ice and held Crosby like the bitch he is. Then Weber would have been executed right there on the ice.
Ahhh, the "no respect" card. Saying the Wings get no respect is like saying the Patriots aren't a "most favored franchise" in the NFL. The Wings are one of the top 5 "brands" in the NHL (one reason they are "stuck" in the West is to maintain a semblance of credibility). Maybe he would've been penalized more harshly for hitting Crosby (who has a history of concussions), but you sound a lot like the homers who call Wings games.
Eh as Wings fans we do complain more than we are justified to, but there is a certain marketability of players and the franchises they play for that the NHL likes to protect or highlight. The Wings are classics but the market there has been stable for years as the Wings have been good for a while now. Teams like the Capitals, Pittsburgh, Chicago, and the Flyers (not as much as the others) have all had reemergences that have made them a hotter brand at times to market. Plus, you throw Kane, Crosby, and Ovechkin out there and they have been great marketting tools for the NHL that they have thoroughly fostered. I can't remember if it was the first Stanely Cup series against the Penguins or the second but Malkin started a fight against Zetterberg (I think it was Zettertits) in blatant violation of NHL rules which should have resulted in a one game suspension (done a couple of times during the playoffs) but the NHL chose not to suspend Malkin. The NHL was defintely protecting the quality of the Stanley Cup but you cannot deny that Pittsburgh was being protected also. The only thing I can think of that compares is Kronwall's hit on Voracek this year that did not result in a suspension. However, that situation seemed to provide more ambiguiety and the rule against hits to the head requires more analytical application than a blanket rule about not starting fights after the game. The NHL and many thought it lacked maliciousness (as much as a physical sport can lack it) and Voracek had a duty to keep his head up when leaving his zone. As such, there seems to be certain standard the NHL applies to certain elite teams or elite teams housing elite or the marquee (most marketable) players.
Also, on the note of the homer Detroit announcers, all teams hometeam announcers are biased and generally the color commentator is more overtly biased. As such, I think you are criticizing Mickey Redmond. This is blasphemy and absolutely untolerable. As the divorced wife at the beginning of Wedding Crashers says, "You shut your mouth when you are talking about Mickey Redmond."
Well, Kronwall wasn't suspended because the hit on Voracek was completely legal.
clean hit. He did not target the head on the hit, which is why he wasn't suspended. There is no comparison to what Weber did, since he targeted the head specifically.
And in defense of Mickey Redmond he may be bias at times, but he also calls out penatlties that he thinks are crap even if they benefit the Red Wings. Redmond's criticism of the officiating last night was basically general in nature, in terms of being disguisted with the amount called on both teams, not just the amount called on the Red Wings. I actually find Ken Daniels to be a little more bias than Mickey, and to be honest Mickey is less bias than most of the other announcers I have heard. The Shark's announcers from the last two playoff series were far more bias than Ken or Mickey.
I hate the officiating during the playoffs in general. It seems like they pull out another rulebook or something.
To say that there's some kind of vendetta against the Wings is garbage.
Just have a Wing do the exact same thing to Shea and see if we only get a fine.
zetterberg was not injured...refs did not call a penalty
like it or not, this is where bob probert would have to kick this guy's butt...except we don't have a bob probert
Yes, the refs did call a penalty, it just wasn't served because the play happened at the end of the game.
did not realize that, but a 2 minute minor is akin to a tripping penalty or holding the stick
wasn't a major and there was no 10 minute misconduct
honestly, if the ref's thought it was serious they could have thrown the book at him with no consequence to the game
refs did call a penalty on the play. He got 2 minutes for roughing at the 20:00 mark
Which is to say that nothing was done. A 2 min penalty after a game is over is no penalty at all. I was hoping for a 5 min major to start the second game. This is a weak call.
I don't believe there is any rule allowing penalties to be carried over from game to game. That would be very strange. I believe the fine was the right move in this case, Weber isn't a repeat offender, much the same as Zetterberg was fined but not suspended for a hit earlier in the season.
Penalties don't carry over to the next game.
but I'm almost starting to think it wouldn't be a terrible idea for a playoff series. Maybe not even make them minors and majors, but a ten minute misconduct that could carry over would be enough to make a guy like Weber think twice about actions after the final horn.
a hit within in the confines of the game, and a WWE style move of slamming a guy's head into the boards. The NHL has stated that they want to do a better job of protecting the head area. If that is you goal, there is not an excuse for no suspension in this case. That play has no place in the game of hockey, period, end of story. A fine, which amounts to a less than a parking ticket for an average person does not send that message.
Somebody else brought it up in a later post in this thread, but Quincey was suspended for an elbow a week or two ago. Not sure how an elbow is worse than what Weber did, and just like Weber, Quincey was not a repeat offender. I do think Quincey's hit deserved a suspension, but there is no way that it deserved more than what Weber got in this case.
Weber had another offense on Jannik Hansen in October. The reason Weber should be sitting on his a$$ for a couple games is that it was intentional and he used the glass....here is his JH board from earlier in the season
Lack of injury -- irrelevant. Intent to injure is the key here.
Role of enforcers -- sadly, this was also my thought as I was cursing the TV after the clock expired. Unfortunately, no one on the ice at the time was capable of sizing up with cheap-shot Shea. I found myself longing for the days of Stu Grimson, Joey Kocur, and Marty McSorley. Shea would absolutely be watching his back if those guys were around.
Don't get me wrong -- I think the game is better without goons. But if the league is going to take this inconsistent, asinine policy on this type of activity, then maybe we need to carry one on the bench to protect our skill players.
I've never seen Ericsson fight, but he's definitely got the size. I think Big Bert could bring the noise, although he's getting a little long in the tooth for fighting.
just a guy who would fight
cleary would have fought
end of nhl playoff games are famous for messages being sent
nashville got an easy one, red wings punked out
doesn't matter who was on the ice someone should have thrown a punch
Look who was on the ice at the end of the game (I'm not at home, so I can't verify on replay):
Z, Dats, Mule, Lidstrom, Kronwall, and one more forward (Cleary?)
Weber outheights, outweighs, and outreaches all but maybe Franzen. And I don't think I've ever seen Franzen go off on somebody, either.
The last time one of our less-established fighters tried to fight in the playoffs, Tomas Kopecky got his orbital beat in by Francois Beauchemin. We don't want that happening to our skill players.
It's just unfortunate we don't have a skilled enforcer. Big Bert is about our only hope.
Barring that, I say have somebody useless like Emmerton take a run at him. (/s)
don't have to win the fight, but just fight
every guy should know how to tie someone up
linesman would not have let it go that far
there isn't any fighting in the league anymore, so there aren't any enforcer players like Probert anymore. It's one of the reason's I'm not a huge hockey fan anymore.
Be pissed off. This is it. They'd announced a suspension along with this if he was getting one. So much for punishing players for headshots. There was no finer example of a blantant headshot then this.
So you're thinking the same league that called 4 penalties on the Wings for every one for the Preds last night gives two shits about Zetterberg head?
I'm surprised they didn't fine Zetterberg for getting his head in the way of Weber's hands.
If you consult the disciplinary flowchart, you would see that this does not get a suspension in the playoffs:
That is awesome
Agree with beenplumb -- this is pretty damn funny.
Would be even better with some sort of "was Crosby the vic?" element.
Where's a guy like McCarty when you need him?
Doing locol car dealership commercials
Weber claimed Z hit him in he head first, I never saw that part but i did see the punch and then the grab and slam into the boards. I dont understand the reasoning at the end of a game that you just won, Hopefully this gives the wings a little spark, They arent looking so hot as of late and need a little boost to make any kind of push this year imo.
Zetterberg did give him a little shot to the head with his elbow immediately beforehand.
or excuse Weber's actions.
While Z did hit him, and probably should have been a minor, how about that Weber is 6'4 and 230-something pounds. If he can't handle a 5'11 190 pound guy hitting him without reacting like that, then he really needs to change professions
Stupid ass decision if there's no suspension. I cannot think of one reason not to suspend Weber, and to the people claiming "playoffs", the NHL needs to hold a higher standard for the playoffs, it's how the league is showcased to every casual hockey fan on Earth.
Does anyone have a video of the hit? I'd like to see it.
Somewhat selective journalism right there... Zetterberg did hit him pretty high when he came in. Obviously it was more of a "hockey play", but it wasn't a "random assault" as the video might lead you to believe.
watch who breaks them up. That's a linesman, and I would venture to say he was no closer than the top of the circles (and only that close because of the time remaining) and he was practically on top of Weber before "the slam".
I won't argue that Zetterberg deserved a minor penalty there if the referees wanted to assess it, but you can see right here what Weber did, and that's not a minor call.
You gotta be kidding me. $2500?! That's like fining me $3.50! That's pocket change, for grabbing the back of a guy's head and slamming his face into the glass?! Oh, I'm so pissed about this.
I don't believe this. Link or it didn't happen
Shanahan must have just asked him for whatevers in his wallet on the way out of the arena.
that NHL players are only paid for games, Weber makes a little over $90,000 for the first 82 games per season. He literally got docked two minutes worth of pay to go with his two minute minor.
Edit, the exact numbers: $7,500,000/82/60 come out to $1,524.39 per minute of game time. He got fined less than two minutes of pay, assuming players are only paid for games.
Garth, if I would give you some money out of my wallet, would that ease the pain?
What an absolute travesty. It's not about whether Z got hurt or when it happened, but the message it's sending. So now players can grab someones head and smash it in the glass, and only worry about a roughing call and pocket change
No Doubt this came from the top. Wings will never get a fair shake as long as that little troll is in charge.
that will serve as a deterrent. I bet if it had been Crosby instead of Z, Weber would been sent to a Siberian Gulag.
no suspension was coming because it wasnt syndey crosby who got hit.
"This play and the fine that addressed it will be significant factors in assessing any incidents involving Shea Weber throughout the remainder of the playoffs."
So let me get this straight Shanny... He not only got the fine, but he is now on Double Secret Probation too??? Way to crack down on the BS Shanny!
I have officially lost all respect for the NHL. I will still support the Wings till the day i die, but i will not support a league that claims to be all about player safety and then when they have the opportunity to send a message to players and the fans they shy away.
I would love nothing more than to see Weber get his ass laid out in Game 2,but i know Babcock and the Wings are too smart to put themselves in that situation.
the game last night, but the hits were pretty much even. I saw several big hits by the Wings including a couple by Datsyuk and Helm before he left the game. The Red Wings have the ability to be more physical, if a particular game dictates a more physical style of game. I really doubt that Weber won't see some retribution at some point in this series.
And last I checked the Wings do have a guy named Kronwall, who can lay guys out. I would watch out for Kronwall, if I was Weber.
A couple of weeks ago, Shanahan suspends Kyle Quincey for an elbow. Weber pounds Z's head into the Plexiglas... and Shanahan says, "I am going to send you to bed without your supper." ... "and if you do it again Mister, I am going to be extremely cross with you."
It seems the NHL is using the NCAA handbook for punishment.
As somebody from Tsn.ca kindly put it:
"I did a rough calculation. Based on the percentage of Weber's $7.5 million annual contract that works out to about a $23 fine for someone making a modest 70K a year. Not even a parking
I wouldn't want to be Nashville for the rest of the series. Horrible things happen when you piss off the Wings. Just ask the Colorado Avalanche
NEW YORK -- Nashville Predators defenseman Shea Weber has been fined $2,500, the maximum allowed under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit forward Henrik Zetterberg in Game 1 of the teams' Western Conference Quarterfinal series in Nashville on Wednesday, April 11, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.
The incident occurred at 20:00 of the third period. Weber was assessed a minor penalty for roughing.
"We felt this was a reckless and reactionary play on which Weber threw a glancing punch and then shoved Zetterberg's head into the glass," said NHL Senior Vice President of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan. "We reached out to Detroit following the game and were informed that Zetterberg did not suffer an apparent injury and should be in the lineup for Game 2.
"This play and the fine that addressed it will be significant factors in assessing any incidents involving Shea Weber throughout the remainder of the playoffs."
The fine money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.
Take home notes
-if a second incedent occurs weber will get suspended
-Z is good to go
what the hell. it should be so much higher
twitter quotes from the media:
James Wisniewski’s suspension cost him $536,585.36. He should’ve smashed Zetterberg in the head 214.634144 times instead!
$2,500 fine. For twice wantonly driving a man’s head into the glass w/ violent force. Playoff rules? What a sad joke
Just when you think the NHL might be getting a clue, Weber gets fined but not suspended for atrocious shots to head of Zetterberg. Terrible.
Shea Weber fined $2,500 for turnbuckling Henrik Zetterburg’s head. Maybe woulda got suspended if he’d hit him with the ring bell, though.
Weber grabbed Zetterberg’s head and slammed it into the glass like a WWE ‘roid freak using a turnbuckle. It’s absolutely indefensible.
Good thing Shanahan doesn’t do videos for fines. Explanation would sound ridiculous over a replay of Weber slamming Zetterberg’s head
Message from the NHL: You can drive a player’s head into the glass but you can’t curse in a post-game press conference.
ummm think if Sidney Crosby got his head smashed only 2500
There are days when I really wish Roger Goodell was in charge of the NHL. Today is one of those days.
Man, some days you think the NHL conspiracy theorists are right.
$2,500 for turnbuckling a guy’s head, $20,000 for saying mean things about Pittsburgh Penguins. Huh. Okeydokey.
the NHL has had a serious issue with concussions the last couple of years, but yet they allow a player's head to get slammed into the glass. If you want to get serious about protecting the head area, you can't let Weber do that to a guy's head and not get suspended. The guys running the NHL really have no clue what the hell they are doing. I thought Shannahan wanted to crack down on this kind of stuff, I guess not. He may be a former Wing, but I have no respect for the guy after this. Fining a guy, what is essentially less than a parking ticket for that crap. Playoffs or not that crap has no place in the game. Only Preds fans and Wing's haters would possibly defend this decision.
And don't even get me started on the officiating job, that essentially ruined the game for both teams, in terms of the overall flow of the game.
I really hope Weber puts himself in a position to get Kronwalled at some point in this series, that would be great to see. Hopefully the Wings can use this as motivation as well.
really weak. Should have led to a suspension. Period.
had a "whining" option for moderation.
which I would expect a Hawks fan such as yourself to do in a thread about the Wings.
If the wings aren't on, then I am not watching. I don't care who is in the cup. Lower ratings may wake them up and fuck Shanahan! What a pussy he is. If this was Crosby or a NY player he souls have have 3 to 5 games.
People on this site are always bitching about Crosby crying to the officials (which is a joke in itself) yet are fine with coming on here and bitching and whining about a rough play for an entire thread. Even when approached with the idea that Z elbowed him in the head first...that doesn't matter because it throws a wrench into their bitching.
I'll tell you what most people here remind me of; those people who sit back and watch/criticize hockey but have never played at an organized level in their lives. Hockey is a rough sport, get over it. Sometimes in the heat of the moment players do things like this and it isn't the end of the world. If you don't like the roughness stick to figure skating.
For me it isn't about Crosby or whining. Its the fact that the NHL says one thing and then does something like this that goes completely against what they say. This was a perfect example of a hit to the head that they are "cracking" down on. If it were a Wings player doing this, I'd still say suspend him. This has nothing to do with being rough. This is on par with Bertuzzi on Moore. Only differnence is Zetterberg didn't get hurt. Bertuzzi drove Moores head into the ice from behind, Weber drove Zetterbergs head into the glass from behind. It was hard enough to crack Zetterbergs helmet. That comes via Craig Custance on ESPN. I have the right to criticize in your eyes, as I still play the game.
and than do another. If you want to get head shots out of the game, this is the kind of conduct that needs to result in a suspension. What makes the other hits in the league to the head that resulted in a suspension this year, worse than what Weber did? I am not sure what a couple people in this thread who are calling people "whiners" don't understand about this decision going against what the NHL has said and done all season.
it is hockey there is literally no accountibility for players because they got caught up "in the moment". Give me a fucking break, that play is suited for the WWE not an NHL game, which is pretty obvious regardless of what level you played the game at as fan.
And like I said in another post, you and a couple of others are missing the point completely. The NHL has stated their intent to protect the head area all year and suspended players accordingly. But in this case that somehow goes out the window, even though Weber's conduct was just as bad as any of the players who were suspended throughout the season, in terms of targeting the head. There has to be some degree of consistency, if the NHL wants the message to get through to the players.
Edit: This is in response to Blue Yarmouth's post
What I've found most surprising about this is that the same people who say fighting in hockey is a good thing have all been outraged about the hit on Zetterberg. Was it dirty? Absolutely, and Weber should be suspended for it. But when I've asked some of my hockey friends about fighting, they say it's fine. I know hockey is a rough sport, yada yada, but so is football and you rarely even see a punch being thrown and when it is the offending player is usually ejected.
As long as fighting is allowed (and in many cases celebrated) in hockey, I don't think anybody should be surprised when something like this happens.
Why shouldn't they be outraged? Fighting and this are 2 different things. Fighting is usually done by two willing combantants. Things like slamming someones head into the boards isn't two willing combants. Its cheap ass horse shit, that shouldn't be allowed. And this is what the NHL was telling us all year. This stuff wouldn't be allowed. There is no debate on this one. It was a clear headshot with an intent to injure. I think fighting has its place and should stay in the game. But the last time I checked fighting isn't banned and the NHL didn't say they are banning fighting.
between two players to drop the gloves. Completely different than a player unwilling have his head slammed into the boards.
Like you said there really shouldn't even be a debate about this. It is pretty clear cut given the NHL's reaction/ stance on head shots all year. Instead of using his elbow as weapon, Weber used the glass. There is no difference whatsoever.
I fall into the camp that believes fighting should be banned. What's the difference between this hit and a couple of guys punching each other in the face? You can't tell me with a straight face that there is no intent to injure in a fight between two guys; the very act of fighting is to beat the other guy up.
Furthermore, the game I watched yesterday featured a lot of Zetterberg elbowing people, including the moment before Weber slammed his face against the boards. Again, I believe it was a dirty hit, but could one make the argument that Zetterberg was a willing participant too since he'd been elbowing the whole game?
See where this leads us? Nowhere. You reiterated my original point for me; the culture of fighting/dirty plays in the NHL has to go or it has to be allowed because moments like the dirty hit on Zetterberg will only lead to people complaining and inconsistencies in punishments.
Your logic is dumb to put it lightly. I don't know what game you were watching, but I didn't see Zetterberg throwing elbows. And if I did miss them, they weren't directed at anyones melon. HEADSHOT is the key word. HEADSHOT, HEADSHOT, HEADSHOT, HEADSHOT, HEADSHOT. Again fighting is way different. When fighting occurs players are 99% of the time facing each other, with gloves off, and they know whats coming. There is a big difference and if you can't see that then you my friend are a dumbass. I'm not trying to name call or anything, but c'mon.
and I saw at least 3 or 4 times where Zetterberg either left his feet or elbowed someone. Sure they may not have been directed at Weber's head but they were acts of aggression that no doubt piled up as the game wore on. As for headshots, every time two guys square off they're using their bare fists and hitting each other in the head over and over and over. In my opinion it's just as bad as slamming Zetterberg's head into the glass. Damage can be done whether a guy sees it coming or not.
I do understand the difference between a cheap shot and a fight; Weber's action was a cheap shot. Both of those things are negative actions in a game. However I see both fighting and cheapshots as having no place in hockey. Since fighting is still legal, it's hard for me to cry for Zetterberg getting hit in the head. The intentions with a cheapshot and a fight are the same.
If fighting was outlawed in hockey, Weber would have been suspended. So don't tell me you're fine with a brawl where all 12 players on the ice are duking it out but you don't like it when your player gets a cheapshot. Get angry about the fact that the NHL allows fighting and has inconsistent rules enforcement instead of calling me names.
Nobody would be upset if Weber squared up with Zetterberg and swung. The problem with Weber is that he attempted to injure Zetterberg when he had literally no way to defend himself. Weber is a coward and made a cowardly play, and that upsets a lot of people, unrelated to fighting being legal or illegal.
associated with a sport that defines ones actions with regard to their fighting prowess? He would be ejected in any other professional sports league and likely suspended from playing. The problem is when we define players as cowardly or heroic or whatever because of the way they fight. Hockey is very inconsistent in this respect.
Maybe this is a bad time to make such an argument with emotions running high but I think it's hard to police any kind of violent actions in a sport that allows men to drop their gloves and throw haymakers. In my mind, the larger problem is allowing fighting in the first place.
Maybe you should just stop watching.
Fighting in hockey is similar to a full back and a linebacker lowering their pads to inflict maximum damage on one another. What Weber did is similar to twisting a player's helmet at the bottom of the pile. Should football do away with tackling because it leads to Tom Gholston being an ass? No, there are rules, spoken and unspoken in both hockey and football. They serve to keep the aggression of the sports within limits. When players take advantage of the vulnerable, they should be suspended.
I don't see how fighting has anything to do with the play at all. Checking is legal, but that doesn't make it legal to hit someone square between the numbers. Fighting is legal, but that doesn't make it legal to grab someones helmet and slam their face into plexiglass.
Lets see squaring up both players or "fighters" have a 50/50 chance to win or defend themselves. Now when someone grabs your head while playing and slams it into the boards thats not a fair fight you don't know its coming at all. In a fight both players have agreed to exhange blows to one another. In Hank's case his back is to the agressor, two hes playing hockey by playing the puck, three Weber makes no effort to play the puck or legally hit Hank with a body check or anything else. He never said he lets take my head to a joy ride into a wall yay! Fighting is actually helpful it gives a guy a chance to see and avoid whats coming. You don't like fighting because its dangerous, that aspect of the game is what makes it so exciting its more risky than most sports. Fighting doesnt promote dirty plays it helps elimnate them.
your a little butt hurt, over something Yarmouth. Please... do tell... what's it like to play organized sports?
And boxing is a rough sport. Sometimes someone, in the heat of the moment, gouges out an eye or bites off an ear. We should just overlook thus because violence is violent!
I have played organized sports and still I am plenty upset about this. Why? Because it wasn't a rough play in the course of the game. It was a play after the whistle and was not a play at all. It was a clear intent to injure that didn't relate to the play. It also was a chicken shit cowardly play by Weber on a smaller player from behind. The punch I can deal with. You want to know the reason why you never seen "plays" like Weber's? Because it wasn't a play at all. I expect the league to suspend players for dirty plays that are not hockey plays. If not, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with Holmer taking a two hander to the back of Weber's knee, right?
I suppose you wondered why Dale Hunter was suspended for 21 games after his antics on Turgeon. Big mystery, huh?
The problem with not suspending Weber is that it sends a message to the Wings that they'll have to do their own justice-seeking here. Now, to the Wing's credit, they're not built that way, which is why watching the Wings play has been so enjoyable for the last eighteen or so years.
However, they more than most other teams rely on global disincentives (i.e., something other than the specific threat of an enforcer). The league just failed them, and with them the vision of post-lunkhead hockey.
I'm almost wondering if he doesn't want to be accused of homerism, suspending the guy who took a shot at his former team
this is disgusting... how can the league essentially say that play is ok? im angry.
The lack of discipline for Weber is total BS. Looked like the freaking WWE with that move. Might as well have Babcock tell his players to start slamming heads on the boards in the corners if all they're going to get is 2 minutes and a slap on the wrist fine. Ridiculous.
If you're gonna fine a guy only 2500, just don't fine him at all. I'd prefer that to the league insulting our intelligence by pretending this is actually some kind of discipline.
So Weber's first punch to the back of Zetterberg's head was retaliation for Z's elbow, OK, fine. But then grabbing him and slamming his head into the glass - that should have been a suspension. I bet it would have been in the regular season. Shanny dropped the ball.
We should suit up Zombie Probert to smash Weber.
when they started playing with helmets. It all unraveled from there. Then visors, then the instigator rule. I remember when a little Euro slashed Probert in a face off, with one hit the little fucker hit the ice and Probie just shrugged and led himself into the box.
The NHL's attempts to "clean up" the game by getting rid of the goons has ironically led to a dirtier game because players can get away with stuff like this. 20 years ago, this guy would have had to face Bob Probert his next shift on the ice. Any guy would think twice about this kind of shit. A lot of people have pointed out that no other sport has fighting, but no other sport lets players get away with dirty hits like this. The NFL hands out fines and suspensions for this kind of stuff.
The NHL simply can't police itself. From the small sampling of games I have seen so far, the officiating has been permissive and shitty, as usual.
This picture just pisses me off. It sure looks like Weber learned his lesson after that harsh punishment...