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OT: SEC wrist slaps for pot use

Well, what a surprise—programs in the SEC routinely dish out weaker punishments for pot use than the NCAA does.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8000546/sec-lenient-discipl...


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June 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 PM | Probably because it isn't a (Score:5 Normal)
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Probably because it isn't a big deal.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:14 PM | Well said. (Score:4 Normal)
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Well said, within a few years it will be legal anyway, so other than simply an internal punishment it should not be such a big deal.

Correct me if I am wrong, but here in the Kalamazoo area we have heard that in Ann Arbor the punishment for smoking a blunt would only be a Civil Infraction.

If so, the punishment for one of the players smoking weed should not be any different than a punishment Hoke would give out for let's say a speeding ticket.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:37 PM | If you're caught with a (Score:1)
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If you're caught with a certain amount, I think it's less than a quarter or something like that, it's only a fine/CI. 

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June 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 PM | It is actually (Score:3 Normal)
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28 grams or less, but since Amurrrica is too stubborn to get on the practical metric system, that means one ounce or less to us Amurrricans.

"Yep"

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June 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 AM | And the AA rules (Score:2)
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If I am not mistaken, do not apply if you are on University grounds, then the standard state law applies.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 PM | As they should.  (Score:5 Normal)
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As they should. 

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:02 PM | They should (Score:5 Normal)
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It should be about the local jurisdiction and what the punishment is their.  Pot is noo big deal.  I'd rather have my players in their dorms smoking J's and eating brownies while playing madden and ordering pizza on a saturday night than out binge drinking.  As we've seen (with Big Will etc.) alcohol and minors lead to bad things.  I'm especially a personal advocate of mixing the two.  It seems to keep one from going overboard on the drunkeness and keeps you from raging and getting in to trouble.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 AM | Hahaha (Score:3 Normal)
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Hahaha I'm an advocate of both but for totally different reasons. I think it makes ya blackout when smoked post-drinking so I don't rec that but it makes you more chill/melt into the couch so what's the problem?

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 PM | And here I didn't think (Score:1 Normal)
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And here I didn't think hippies were popular in the South...

That's one thing I thought they got right.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 PM | So? (Score:5 Normal)
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Rabble, rabble, no player at Michigan has ever smoked pot, rabble, rabble.

But seriously, the NCAA has a mandatory one year suspension for pot? That seems outrageously harsh.

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:44 PM | I believe Manningham tested (Score:1 Overrated)
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I believe Manningham tested positive at the combine, so I would imagine he probably did at Michigan. I don't wanna throw out names, but I know of people who've burned with notable football/basketball players.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 7:01 PM | I think using the "/s" tag (Score:3 Normal)
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I think using the "/s" tag ruins the joke, and my refusal to use it leads to the occasional misunderstanding.

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 6:19 PM | This conference... (Score:1)
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...smells like Otto's jacket.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 PM | I guess your reaction to this (Score:2)
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I guess your reaction to this depends on whether you think it's about the pot use part or the lenient discipline part.  Being lenient on everything else as well, this shouldn't come as earthshattering news.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 PM | ha. whatever they need to do (Score:1)
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ha. whatever they need to do to feel good about themselves.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 6:20 PM | yay nick fairley (Score:2 Normal)
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yay nick fairley

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June 2nd, 2012 at 7:22 PM | What are is there to do in in (Score:3 Funny)
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What else is there to do in in Tuscaloosa or Starkville?

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June 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 PM | Meh, as long as they're not (Score:5 Normal)
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Meh, as long as they're not PEDs who cares.  Are we seriously gonna judge when AA is the annual home to Hash Bash?

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 PM | It would be awesome if the US (Score:4 Normal)
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It would be awesome if the US government decided to follow the SEC with respect to this sort of punishment.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:06 PM | Any more brain busters? (Score:1)
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You don't need an article to know that. These kids are screwed after they get their sheepskin. Please see all of the reports, current NFL players, and campus news. They blaze that shit up after practice. P.S. they get a boatload of vajay jay too. In Nevada they call them hookers.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 AM | They're not hookers. They're (Score:1)
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They're not hookers. They're massage therapists.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 PM | This is one position that I (Score:5 Normal)
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This is one position that I think the SEC has right.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:36 PM | Yup. (Score:3 Normal)
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  As far as "it is crap they are playing on a different playing field," then yes... that sucks.

 

  However, seems appropriate to the crime.  I definitely don't support Brandon's "Just Say No" redux with the increased rate of drug testing and stiffer penalties and whatnot.  Especially in A2 where it is just a $50 civil infraction, and medically permissible at the city and state level.  I wonder how many tough anti-weed gentry feel about the 'best football conference' allowing more drug use... I mean, those things are mutually exclusive, right?

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:47 PM | You will rue the day you sneered at the warnings (Score:2 Normal)
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First pot, then cocaine, then the big H, then it's selling your flesh in Columbus to depraved Buckeyes.


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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 PM | It's just because Southerners are more (Score:3 Normal)
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liberal in their beliefs. No biggie.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 AM | MIxed emotions (Score:1)
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I really don't think the use of pot or alchohol should have a penalty for the "standard" student.  However, when even a tenth of a second in reflexes can make the difference between winning and losing, athletes really shouldn't be using anything that can slow their reflexes during the season.  That should be a team matter, though.

The only thing that disturbs me about this report is that the SEC once again demonstrates that the main reason for their success is that they cheat to recruit the best of the best, have them major in "eligibility," and then use the Dantonio/Meyer approach: "If you contribute, you can do whatever you want and we will find a way to keep you on the field."

Rules help to create an even playing field, but only if everyone follows them.  The SEC, like our "friends" in EL and Columbus, are very selective in their approach to enforcement.  So, even though the rule is stupid, it is there and should be enforced the same way the rest of football enforces it.

 

 

 

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June 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 AM | I'm with you on this in a (Score:2)
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I'm with you on this in a sense. While I certainly believe that drug policy should be regulated via local jursidictions the NCAA has a right to enforce it's own policy when the student athletes play teams from different geographic areas. If the SEC only played teams from the SEC for example then the I would argue that the SEC policy should be enforced but the teams don't and well then they should follow the rules like all teams in the NCAA.

In a few years it won't matter as pot will be legalized, as it should, the really bad drugs nowadays are the pills. I worked as a volunteer in a rehab last summer and 90% of the kids under 25 were there for pills. Over 25 was alcohol and cocaine. Amazing how upside down we have become as a society.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 PM | What makes you guys think it (Score:2)
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What makes you guys think it will be legal in a few years? It seems that there is an ever growing undercurrent of "straight" people that believe it should be legalized, but it appears that the guv'ment staunchly opposes it. I can only hope. As much I like to do some drunk Mgobloggin', it's been too long since I Indulged in the stickiest of the icky.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 PM | AFAIK... (Score:1)
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the Justice Department has declined to enforce federal laws in medicinal states (people with crops, dispensaries, possibly some just possession issues in CA, MI, ect. are still breaking federal laws, the feds are just declining to prosecute). If the current administration stays intact, or the next AG/President don't go after federal cases, you're talking about another five or six years (at least) before anything is done at a federal level. By that time, I don't think it's a stretch to imagine a lot of states making medicinal laws, and from what I've seen in Ann Arbor, that's basically an easy license to smoke.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 PM | the sec is slimy and grimey. (Score:1)
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the sec is slimy and grimey. we all know this. pot is not a terrible thing. some of us think this.players sitting around in their apartments, smoking weed, and playing videogames is not a big deal.

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June 3rd, 2012 at 10:13 PM | Eh (Score:2)
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It's pot. Let me know when we're talking about PEDs.

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