Thank goodness! I've been waiting for Scott Torgerson to get fired or die so I could listen to 97.1 The Fan again!
OT: Scott Torgerson "No longer employed" by 97.1 The Fan
He tweeted himself right out of a job.
Hint to people in the media, it probably is not a good idea to wish death upon someone else in the media or anyone for that matter, cause it's you know......death.
I have to admit I'm looking forward to the response by Torgerson. He said he wished someone would get fired and he ended up getting fired. It will be interesting to see how he handles it.
Desmond is alive and well, but Scott here has a dead career.
it's comical that so many people in the media and public life still can't get it through their thick skulls that once you hit "send" you're no longer in control of your message, or your life. Fuckin' idiot.
I am NOT defending this idiot but I do feel a little bad for him as he's paid the ultimate career price for a stupid post I'm sure he wishes he could get back. And if the guy has a family he's now probably got to move to get a new job in radio which means they're now facing a significant life change. I'm sure the guy has been kicking himself since he sent it (thought it was clever and didnt take a second look at how it would be read before hitting "send") but he can't get that shit back in the baby so to speak.
I know i've posted some stuff through the years that was influenced by anger, alcohol, stupidity or a lethal combination of all three that I damn sure wish I could get back.
Posted at work....no issue with Torgerson - hell I've never even heard his show and I think he deserved to be fired.
Just a guy with a family imagining how much it must suck to be him right now having to explain to his wife he just got fired and then having to let the kids know they're going to have to move so dad can get a new job. And knowing it was because you were monumentally stupid and have no one to blame but yourself.
I've gone through getting fired once. Not for this obviously but for something I could've and should've done something about and trust me.....it is NOT a pleasant conversation with the family.
And can you imagine telling them you lost your job over a Twitter account? That really sucks.
Not saying he deserved the job after apparently saying several questionable things over the years, but losing a job over Twitter has to sting.
I can relate to getting fired for something stupid I could have avoided. It was not a pleasant experience to say the least. I had to move from Illinois to Texas to take a job and resume my career. It was one of the worst experiences of my life.
I'm sure he'd like it back, not because it feels bad about it or because he realized later he showed poor judgment, but because he got FIRED! Several of his past tweets have also shown poor judgment. It was not a one-time mistake but a pattern. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
There's a big difference between schmucks commenting on a blog and a media professional letting loose on Twitter.
Yeah, for him and his family, it sucks that he was canned. It is unfortunate but completely deserved. As a pro, he should know better.
I definitely feel for anyone who loses his job, but this was 100% his own fault. Nobody said he needed to write that, and frankly if he had stopped at "firing" it probably would have been fine. But to wish someone to die because you don't like seeing him on TV is just self-inflicted idiocy. His family may suffer, but he's paid to be a professional and he wasn't here.
He didn't even apologize. I have no sympathy for this man.
Untrue. He went out of his way and contacted the Howard family to apologize. He also released a statement apologize.
out of the bag by then. Sux to be him.
The bottom line is that Torgerson is a professional and supposedly knows better. It's not like he is some anonymous internet puke who can post "DIAF" with no consequenses.
can you be to wish death on someone?
More people ought to follow the example of Harry Truman. He was famously hot-tempered and foul-mouthed, and as was normal back then, he wrote a constant stream of letters to public and private recipients. He was in the habit of dashing off angry and vituperative letters to people who pissed him off for one reason or another, but he had the good sense to not mail many of the letters right away, waiting for his temper to subside. Eventually somebody collected a bunch of the letters he wrote but never sent and made a book out of them.
"Strictly Personal and Confidential offers a unique look at a man reacting naturally to enormous pressures. Truman often had second, more prudent thoughts about what he called his 'spasms.' Sometimes he would scribble furiously and then stuff the result into his desk while he cooled off; on other occasions, he dictated blisterers to Rose Conway, his longtime personal secretary, and then returned the typescript with a diplomatic directive: 'Rose, file it. H.S.T.' —Time
"He also had the good judgment-- once he had dictated and reviewed a letter to some notable-- to at times keep a particular letter from the mail, and save it exclusively for his own files. Truman spared himself countless embarrassments using this discipline."
I didn't konw that about Truman, really need to get onto reading a biography on him.
I read something similar about Lincoln, he would write angry letters to his generals and wouldn't mail them until his anger subsided, and then would instead file them away. Including times when McClellan horribly f-ed up a situation.
Twitter may not be your friend, but it is a fine tool that plenty of public figures use completely responsibly and to great effect. There are plenty of websites, writers, professional groups, etc that I follow on Twitter who use it professionally and responsibly.
Twitter itself is not the problem. A tendency to say stupid things in public is a bigger issue.
People don't kill people, twitter kills people
But but but, can't you delete it?
him poking at his Iphone saying, NO, NO, NO. then throwing the phone against the wall.
It's simply amazing how many "grown men" cannot differentiate between real life and the world of sports. Desmond Howard never did anything to this guy personally. He played football against his beloved Buckeyes and now he has some face time on ESPN every Saturday talking about way more teams than OSU or Michigan. Torgerson is a pathetic excuse for a grown man and a human being.
It does, however, give me pause for time spent at mgoblog obsessing about a college team that I am far too invested in.
I hope that Desmond does not someday land himself in a similar jam due to one of his Tweets.
Twitter + Desmond Howard = High Risk Public Relations
As someone who follows him on Twitter, he's pretty good at it. He'll get into things with people who attack him, but he always stays clean
Ironically, I think Herbie is more apt to get himself into trouble via the Twitters.
You got that right. I'd bet money that Desmond will put his foot in his mouth eventually.
He will say something stupid too. But I doubt he will be dumb enough to with someone was dead.
I hear Iacono's in Shawnee Hills is looking for a driver and I think Torgerson would be ideal..
(Actually, "The Torg" of "Common Man and The Torg", a pro-buckeye show on 97.1 radio.)
It was an extremely stupid tweet, and Torgerson deserves the response, but I actually liked the Common Man and the Torg. They had a good rapport. I'm disappointed. I'm sure this will be marked flamebait, which it is not, but what's an opinion if you decide to tailor it to the masses.
Desmond, the other day, some osu fan called him a has been. Desmond told him he'd rather be a has been than a never was, like the person saying that to him. I got a kick out of that
It's pretty fucking stupid to call a retired athlete a has been. It's like, no shit. You know who else is a has been? Dan Marino. The guy hasn't thrown a TD pass in who knows how long.
Unlike all the OSU athletes who go on to prestigious 65 year pro careers and die gloriously on the field/court? What a stupid fucking argument. The moron caller essentially is telling Desmond he got too old to play his sport anymore, duh.
Maybe the Twitterz rule should be that no OSU players or fans use it. And MSU players/fans for that matter.
What a movie.
What took so long (for ST to get the axe)?
I'd expect this type of behavior from the Common Man but I thought Torg was better than this.
/s (I just wanted to work Common Man into this thread. I find the name of that show to be hillarious.)
Wow, I'm sure the fans in Columbus lamenting and gnashing their teeth over this turn of events must number in the dozens.
I've listened to enough of his crazy anti Michigan rants and logic for far too long. I am glad he is gone.
does something stupid too.
The only reason I feel bad for him is that he just had a newborn daughter about 2 months ago. I am sure this must be very stressful for his family. Other than that, if you won't say what you are thinking about a person to their face, then it's best you don't say it at all.
So what if he has a two month old daughter? He has pulled this crap before. Do you think he paused to find out whether the ESPN reporter he placed a bulls eye on had a two month old daughter? According to another commenter here, it triggered death threats. But even if that isn't so, it sure risked it. The man is a disgrace, and goes to show why the Ohio state fan base is, on balance, one of the worst.
a decent job.
sure that was a "good high paying" job.
Must.... resist.... urge to leave inflammatory snark comment on 97.1 The Fan's Facebook page.
Nevermind. Willpower check failed.
Seriously, wtf did the Torg expect? It's not the worst thing in the world and it was said in jest, but you're representing your place of employment when you tweet - we're not playing school anymore (/cardaled). Moreover, it must be said that Torg's infamous tweet is potentially not such a harmless bit of sophomorics, given the rich history of Buckeye fans and death threats
Torg was in trouble before for doing/saying something stupid. During Tresselgate, he "shared" name/hotel/room number of an ESPN investigative reporter in town to dig. Needless, to say (I think), the reporter was harrassed, death threatened, etc. Too bad to see him go, he was a lot more fun to listen to than "The Common Man". When it came to Michigan, they were both over-the-top homers and pretty uninformed. On other topics, there were a few laughs to be had.
Desmond is a nice guy. I'm sure he can sign this photo and send it to Scott to make him feel better.
If Scott felt bad about the tweet he should have gone above and beyond to apologize to Desmond and to the station. Instead it sounded like other personalities backed up his tweet as well as criticized Herbstreit for backing Des. I feel not one bit bad for this moron getting fired and am sick of the rampant devolved tribalism within the state of Ohio. I even know reasonable people who cheer for the team, but it seems the majority of fans and the personalities who speak for them and the journalists who cover that team are a bunch of morons.
This is spot on. I'm all for forgiving him, but the level of hatred and the others backing him up is what makes it necessary to fire him. As a general rule, if you fly off the handle and say something that offensive, you had better get a very big apology ready if you want to stay respectable.
Torg is actually a very knowledgeable sports fan. I said this when the story broke the first time...he's a drive home guy who is a harmless Ohio State homer. Thief say stuff like this all the time. I blame his producers and higher ups. They let him push the envelope. All of a sudden Herby gets offended and makes a statement about of of his friends and gets all butt hurt about it. He then turns it into a vendetta against a good local radio host. I would bet Herby never even heard Common Man and Torg.
Was the tweet over the line? Yes. Should he have been suspended? Yes. Should he have been fired? Absolutely not. I just think Herby took a non story and made it an issue. Neg me if you want, I'm a die hard Blue fan, always have been. I just think a good man, who is passionate and knowledgeable about sports lost his job today for all the wrong reasons. I also think he's got quite the case for a wrongful termination lawsuit.
is on that station a lot and had been a guest of common man and torg many times...
Herby going to say? I agree with him?
I work in media, and while (at my company at least) you are encouraged to have a presence and a personality on social media, it's pretty clear that what you say reflects on your employer, particularly if your entire social media account is related back to your media job (as his was). As a non-sports reporter/radio person I think I could tweet negative things about, say, Ohio State, but I tend to err on the side of caution even with that stuff - and I don't work for an ESPN affiliate. This was a bonehead move to the extreme in which he insulted not only a former athlete and current sports personality, but one who works for the same company. IMO, firing him was the only way they could go with it.
He was about the only guy on that station I enjoyed. He was a little crude but people just need to have a sense of humor. I for one will miss the entertainment value of having a guy that could make me laugh while being an OSU homer, now all they have left on that station are boring OSU homers, that do nothing to entertain...
I think firing the guy for this was too much. He has a wife and a kid. He should't lose his job over one insensitive, stupid remark.
In this economy, better people than him have lost their jobs over less.
I will miss him. One of the best aspects of living in Columbus is listening to him crying after tOSU loses especially to Michigan. He had admitted on air that he had done shows drunk. Go figure and Go Blue
C'mon Valenti, show us you could get away with something like this.
My wife is on bed rest and I have been "unavoidably detained" so this is the first I've heard of this situation. Common Man and the Torg was the only show on 97.1 that I could even stand to hear, so this is unfortunate in that regard. It's not surprising that the Torg would write something like that about Desmond given his personality. I'm sure he thought it was funny but obviously the joke is on him.