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OT: Sandusky sentenced to 30-60 years

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8481896/jerry-sandusky-sentenced-least-30-years-child-sex-abuse-charges

Not much to see here, I think we all knew that he was going to get an effective life-sentence, him being 68, and he did, but thought it was worth mentioning since it is pretty major, if totally sordid, CFB news. 

He repeated his claims of innocence, FWIW.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:05 AM | Rot in hell, shitbag. (Score:5 Normal)
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Rot in hell, shitbag. Hope you enjoy your jail cell.

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:07 AM | You should note that it was (Score:1 Flamebait)
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You should note that it was out of a possible 400.



So this piece of shit got off easy

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:11 AM | The judge wanted the sentence (Score:3 Normal)
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The judge wanted the sentence to be psychological. Making an elaborate sentence like that is essentially resigning to life in prison while the sentence he got is actually life in prison with the psychological torment of technically being able to get out if you can live that long.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:23 AM | You give (Score:1 Normal)
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judges too much credit for critical thinking.  I think it is more likely that many of the charges and convictions arose from occurances that were largely inseperable, i.e. six seven different convictions arising from one encounter where several crimes technically happened.  He was probably given concurrent sentences for instances such as that. 

Or maybe this judge is just screwing with his head, but in any case, as a lawyer this seems a little light.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:31 AM | Well (Score:2)
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According to the ESPN coverage in Pennsylvania, the judge mentioned how for a 68 year old man this is a life sentence and that's what he wanted to do. They didn't mention a psychological motive in that, but it seems to make sense based on what the judge said.

I can only continue to reference the fact that I live in an onion factory.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 AM | Bye-Bye (Score:3 Normal)
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Hope he has a looog life in and gets cell mates he deserves.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | Hard to say (Score:1 Flamebait)
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if he'd consider that a punishment...

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:10 AM | I wish there was an extra (Score:2 Normal)
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I wish there was an extra zero at the end of the 30 and the 60. 

 

I hope he likes prison. 

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:16 AM | His ass should be sent to (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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His ass should be sent to general pop fuck that segregation shit. There would probably be fights over who should get at crack at him first.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Really? (Score:1)
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That's just gross. Why would anyone want to do that?

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:25 PM | I should have said that in a (Score:1 Flamebait)
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I should have said that in a better manner. I mean in the sense as to who would beat the shit out of him or worse.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | May he meet the fate of (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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May he meet the fate of Dahmer.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Pretty disgusted (Score:4 Normal)
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that as a Pa taxpayer, my own money will be used, against my will of course, to support this monster for the rest of his life.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:47 AM | Putting him (Score:5 Normal)
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down is much more expensive than keeping him alive.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:50 AM | Not  to mention easier for (Score:2)
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Not  to mention easier for him.  His integration into general population prison will not be fun.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | My guess (Score:4 Normal)
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is that he will never be put into general population, ever.  He will probably be in a 6 by 8 with a metal door with a food slit, half hour a day outside with no other inmates around, not in "the yard" but more like a kennel where he can only look up but not out.  Almost no human contact of any kind.

In other words, he is going to hell, and he will never leave.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:51 AM | It should only cost as much (Score:-1 Normal)
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It should only cost as much as one 9mm bullet.

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:10 PM | And you should be the one (Score:1 Normal)
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And you should be the one that has to do it, because you are such a great man and all.

/ManTalk

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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October 9th, 2012 at 3:08 PM | You will be surprised how easy it would be for people (Score:2 Normal)
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to do that. You can mock it by labeling it "Mantalk", but not a few would not hesitate to execute someone like Sandusky. 

It's easy to say anything either way. How would you feel if someone raped and murdered your child? Could you kill the man then?  Most humans have a breaking point between nonviolence and violence. Where that point is depends upon the person.

I know that it would not be easy to shoot the man. Frankly, I don't know if I could kill the man, but I am confident that I could find it within me to beat the shit out of Sandusky.

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:53 PM | You are right, (Score:2 Insightful)
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but the point that you are missing, or at least not realizing (this is no slight to you, it a very common misperception among people who support the death penalty or have an eye for an eye mentality) is that death would be a gift to Jerry Sandusky right now.  I am an attorney, I have frequented prisons and have been appointed to defend rapists, pedophiles, etc.  I practiced criminal law for some time and can speak definitively on the subject.  What Sandusky will go through in the next 30 years is worse than death.  Sandusky will be subjected to conditions that not only allow insanity to take place but actively promote it.  If the choice is death or solitary confinement for 30 years, death is a cakewalk.  There is a reason that solitary has been identified as possibly cruel and unusual punishment while death has not.   A bullet in between his eyes would be the easy sentence.  What he has coming to him is no joke.  And he has his crimes to meditate on.  Sandusky does not deserve to be affrorded the easy way out.  Let him sit and think about what he has done for 30 years without anybody to even hint to him that he is alright.  There is no harsher form of punishment.  You want suffering, that man is going to suffer in a way that death cannot contend with.

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | I'm not necessarily implying I want him executed, per se (Score:2)
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I just dislike the idea that I am unwillingly supporting that man.

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October 9th, 2012 at 3:05 PM | If it was done through the (Score:3 Normal)
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If it was done through the court system, it would.  Do you all know why capital punishment is so expensive?  Legal costs and expenses.  Its pretty crazy when you think about it.  The state spends more money prosectuting a capital murder case than the state spends keeping a person alive in the prison system for life.

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:49 AM | Yes, but, there aren't a lot (Score:2)
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Yes, but, there aren't a lot of better alternatives (lets not descend into a discussion of capital punishment or torture). 

I don't know enough about sentencing and probation, but it used to be that 30 years really meant 5 (or whatever) with good behavior.  It would be a shame for Mr. Sandusky to have any semblance of a normal life out of the penal system. 

 


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October 9th, 2012 at 11:50 AM | Even more messed up: (Score:0 Normal)
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Sandusky's well being is now in the hands of the state of PA.  So if some inmates decided to "teach Sandusky a lesson", and were to kill Sandusky, then Sandusky's estate could sue the state of PA for a wrongful death.  How messed up is that/How big of a waste of taxpayer dollars would that be?

Homer? Who is Homer? My name is Wolverine Incognito.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | Whaddya mean, against your (Score:1)
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Whaddya mean, against your will?  You could move. /s

So what's the break-even point for execution vs years incarcerated? /semi-s

 

I personally hope he rots in prison for a long time, fearing for his life.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | Having to sit in solitary greater punishment (Score:4 Normal)
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Being locked up for many years, to reflect on the last 40 years, is greater punishment than a bullet to the head, or a lethal injection, or a jolt of electricity. Honestly, I'd like him to live 30 more years and be denied parole at 98.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:47 AM | 30-60 years? (Score:1)
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After being convicted of 45 counts?  Seems a little low...

Homer? Who is Homer? My name is Wolverine Incognito.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:49 AM | I don't see him lasting very (Score:1)
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I don't see him lasting very long, whether its eventual suicide or a couple of inmates find their way to him and kill him themselves.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | He won't make it 5. (Score:1 Overrated)
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He won't make it 5. Finally, this animal will feel the terror of not knowing what the night brings as he cries himself to sleep, wondering who might be coming through the door.



Piss off old man.

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:23 PM | This sordid tale is not over (Score:2)
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This sordid tale is not over yet.  Two trials coming up in January and then the civil suits if PSU doesn't settle them first.  Sandusky should rot in hell along with those who helped perpetrate this scheme.

I wonder if the Paterno family will make a statement any time soon - nothing they do surprises me.

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:27 PM | He's a monster (Score:5 Normal)
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I will not allow his ugliness to cause me to get caught up in hatred and a call for revenge. Better to acknowledge the atrocities, feel pain for the victims, and hope that he burns off some small portion of the shit-ton of bad karma that he's created for himself. Sandusky will be in hell--but he's already been in hell for a long time, and he's created a hell for his victims. My hope is that those victims find peace and that we don't allow a monster to make us all become our own variety of monsters by getting caught up in our own hells of hatred and anger.

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | Vengeance is something I believe in. (Score:0 Flamebait)
SalvatoreQuattro
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For some there needs to be retribution for a crime. I am one of those.



Sandusky should be hung from the nearest sour apple tree. He has earned that much.

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:15 PM | nope. (Score:1 Normal)
jdon
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an eye for an eye, leaves the world blind.

 

Death penalty is ridiculous.  I don't know how its possible, but maybe he can find it within himself to redeem his self during his time in prison.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he should ever get out. However, I think that no one has the right to take another man's life and that includes convicted pedophiles. 

 

jdon

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:35 PM | Sociopath. Maybe even (Score:1)
turtleboy
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Sociopath. Maybe even actually believes he didn't do anything wrong. It's so sick. Minimum 30 seems weak for someone who was likely raping for 30. At least he'll die in prison.

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:49 PM | I'd be outraged by the sentence (Score:2)
jabberwock
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but he wont live to see half of it.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:59 PM | Interesting Sentence (Score:2)
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From what I understand, most judges in the Pennsylvania state courts are elected officials, so I expected that the judge would impose a massive sentence for the political benefit of doing so. (While Paterno may still have PA sympathizers, it seems that nobody in PA outside of a close inner circle feel any sympathy for Sandusky). 

Today I noticed that the presiding judge for Sandusky is a "senior judge" - i.e., an appointed retiree.  These seem to be retirees and appointed judges.  (Details here - http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/201/chapter7/s701.html  .)  I wonder if the relatively tempered sentence for Sandusky partially reflects that the judge is unconcerned about the political consequences of his sentence. 

Obviously, the depravity of Sandusky's crimes (and his utter lack of contrition) seem to call for a harsher sentence.  So it's hard to understand why the sentence does not seem proportional to the crime.  (I'm also curious as to what the PA sentencing guidelines are here.)

In any event, glad to see Sandusky off the streets for his natural lifetime.  Even if he makes it to 98, I suspect his parole hearings would be routine denials on the order of Charlie Manson et al.  He's not getting out until he's 128.  And he's not going to be 128.

  • "Of course I care about that stuff.  To the point of irrationality.  It will always be Michigan first, cancer second."  Jim Mandich (RIP)
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October 9th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | hopefully next to last Sandusky post (Score:1 Normal)
risner75
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The next one will be his death. Not trying to sound bad. But tired of the Sandusky posts. I just hope the victims can start the healing process.

Go Blue...

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:18 PM | No parole for 30 years (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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No parole for 30 years either.Its gonna be a fun time for him in prison.

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:42 PM | His Radio Statement (Score:2)
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The transcript of the statement he prepared for radio yesterday is here - (LINK)

It's a painful read because it is pretty clear, and least to me, that he is pretty much locked into denial at this point, and indeed, he doesn't hide his contempt at the perceived unfairness of everything that he has experienced. He even takes what I think are a couple thinly veiled potshots at the accusers and their families, though in another portion of the statement he states that he has never "put down" anyone involved.

I am also glad he will not see freedom again.

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October 9th, 2012 at 5:48 PM | What if he lives to be 148 :( (Score:1)
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What if he lives to be 148 :(

"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:26 PM | Am I the only one ... (Score:2)
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Who will never look at Gerard DiNardo the same?!

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:26 PM | It is unfortunate that (Score:0 Flamebait)
Ernis
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It is unfortunate that Sandusky committed his crimes in a state that will not hang, draw, and quarter him.

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