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December 14th, 2012 at 12:48 PM | On behalf of everyone here, (Score:2 Underrated)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
MGoPoints: 2427

I want to say sorry, and that we all are quite grateful to your sacrifices that you are making for this team, Mr. Ilitch, in order to field a world series contender!

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Thank you, couldn't agree (Score:2)
JonSnow54
Joined: 08/26/2011
MGoPoints: 128

Thank you, couldn't agree more.  It truly doesn't matter how much they spend.  If Illitch wants to spend a ton and get into luxury tax territory, more power to him!  I'd much rather have an owner like that than a frugal guy who doesn't like spending his own money, like the Twins owner from some years back....Kohler maybe was his name?  My boss is a Twins fan and that always drove him nuts - an owner who refuses to spend money would lead to an unhappy fan base. 

We should all be very happy about this, it shows his committment to winning.  I hope he tells Dombrowski to go out and sign several more players. 

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:13 PM | So what your saying is that (Score:1)
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So what your saying is that Sanchez can go buy 8 million Hot n Ready meal dealz....sure hope he gets extra sauce with that. 

Blue is Faster

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:14 PM | JV makes $20 million a year (Score:1)
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JV makes $20 million a year and Anibal will now be making $16 million so ... advantage JV.

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:26 PM | Please tell me the next move (Score:1)
jethro34
Joined: 01/28/2011
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Please tell me the next move is shipping one of the contenders for our #5 spot in the rotation, along with Peralta and Boesch to the Rangers for Elvis Andrus.

It makes sense.  The Rangers lost Hamilton and Napoli and with that a lot of pop from their lineup.  The change of scenery for Boesch, and in that park, could turn him back into a legit power threat, plus he's not advanced in age or terribly expensive if it doesn't work out. 

Andrus is too young to justify keeping him at SS if they really want to bring up Profar, though they don't necessarily want it to be all about Profar right away.  Peralta also can give them some pop in that park and be a good replacement in the infield, and then ultimately to the spot Michael Young had if necessary.

Porcello could pitch in that park because he doesn't give up many deep balls.  He's more of a ground ball guy and that infield, especially when Profar is there, has the range to make a lot more outs than the Tigers did when Rick was pitching.

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:47 PM | That's exactly what I just (Score:1)
ppudge
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That's exactly what I just said at the "water cooler." The only way this makes sense is if they package Porcello (Rangers always need pitching), Boesch (Rangers now need an outfielder and he has upside) and Peralta (insurance if their young star isn't ready for prime time yet) to get Andrus. Paying $16m for our #4 starter doesn't thrill me, because we have to think about Fister and Scherzer down the line.

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | They are thinking about Fister and Scherzer (Score:1)
TyrannousLex
Joined: 11/05/2011
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I'm sure they'll try to sign both, and JV will get a new contract before he's a FA in two years. But what if you can't keep all three? You've now got Sanchez under contract for 5 years, so if either Fister of Scherzer push for outrageous sums of money or simply want to leave, DD isn't scrambling to fill a spot.

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:04 PM | If the Rangers wouldn't trade (Score:4 Normal)
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If the Rangers wouldn't trade Andrus for Justin Upton, then why would they for Porcello, Peralta, and Boesch?

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:06 PM | You're not getting Andrus for (Score:2)
Yinka Double Dare
Joined: 06/30/2008
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You're not getting Andrus for an older SS who stunk last year, a 4th outfielder and a starter you don't want. 

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:55 PM | As a general rule of thumb (Score:2)
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If you think its a no-brainer for the Tigers, its usually a shitty trade for the other team.

Just because Texas has a surplus at SS (Andrus + Profar) and 3B (Beltre + Mike Olt) doesn't mean they're going to take mediocre deals for them as if their usefullness is going to expire.

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December 14th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | The reason this scenario (Score:1)
Maize_Nation
Joined: 07/29/2012
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The reason this scenario doesn't work is because Boesch sucks and has no trade value, Peralta is a mediocre player, decent stop gap, but also have little trade value.

Porcello has some trade value, he could net you a decent return, but nowhere near Andrus.

Texas could get a helluva lot more for Andrus than Porcello, Peralta, and Boesch.

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:30 PM | I really like this a lot. (Score:1)
Jack Daniels
Joined: 05/12/2012
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I really like this a lot. Sanchez compares closely to James Shields and pretty close to Grienke. However, this sets a bar for Scherzer and Fister. If we give Sanchez $80 million thru 5, then imagine how much they could ask for. I think they'll have to trade one of those guys if they make JV and Miggy part of the 30 million club, which might need to happen for them to sign. Then again, who knows, because the new TV contract could be monstrous

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December 14th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Now (Score:1)
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Now is the time to trade Porcello. Try to get a 2B prospect or a good lefty reliever.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:15 PM | Given the movement this off (Score:1)
TyrannousLex
Joined: 11/05/2011
MGoPoints: 274

Given the movement this off season, it may be that the old conceptions of "just right" and "too much" in terms of spending are out the window. The shit going down in LA is distorting things massively.

As Mr. I sees it (i'm sure), he now has a perrenial playoff contender. That shows in television ratings and attendance at Comerica. He'll keep spending to win as many WS rings as he can before he dies. The Tigers may not keep every one of their current stars for the next 5 years, but they'll keep most because Mr. I will pony up for them to stay. He didn't bat an eye doing it with the Wings until he couldn't anymore. And we may be reaching the point similar to the Wings where players will take perhaps a little less than they could make on the open market to stay in the organization.

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:41 PM | The Tigers will easily be (Score:1)
Maize_Nation
Joined: 07/29/2012
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The Tigers will easily be able to support a payroll of 175 million starting in 2014.

These big contracts the Tigers are handing out, it isn't just because Illitch is opening up his wallet, it's because they can afford it.

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | I heard there were multiple (Score:2)
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I heard there were multiple NL teams with interest in Porcello. I think he'd be a good fit for a team like San Fran.

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December 14th, 2012 at 3:19 PM | Why Porcello can't be traded (Score:3 Normal)
rainingmaize
Joined: 04/13/2010
MGoPoints: 91

Yea Porcello could help us fill some problems (like SS and bullpen), but here's why we can't trade him: 

1.) We don't have enough pitching depth to trade him. Yea we have a solid 1-5, however if any of them get hurt (which will happen) then we would be throwing Casey Crosby in there, and I don't even want to know what's behind him. Our pitching depth in our farm system is bad, real bad.

2.) Smyly could have value in the bullpen. I though Smyly looked great coming out of the pen during the playoffs. We would need another arm if Rondon doesn't work out and we have to move Coke or Dotel to closer.

3.) Porcello is only 24 years old. Most pitchers won't hit their primes until ages 28-32. I think Porcello has a lot of room for improvement. Each year we see flashes of brilliance from him at times. A lot of times Porcello pitched pretty good for a No. 5, however Leyland left him in the game to long.

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December 14th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | Good signing.  He's a better (Score:1)
bronxblue
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Good signing.  He's a better pitcher than his record, and as a 3rd or 4th starter he'll be great in tight series.  I'm more worried about Hunter than Sanchez, but it looks like the Tigers have a workable plan, at least in the short term.

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