dothepose

July 17th, 2012 at 10:07 AM ^

This world is just not a good place anymore. You can't even prevent random events like this occuring, this could happen anywhere at anytime. Just have to enjoy every moment you have.

Blazefire

July 17th, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^

It used to be that depending on where you lived and the group you were targeting, things like this were socially acceptable. Very few places in the world any longer condone anything like this. YOu can never stop all the whack jobs, but at least you can make sure that people on their way to becoming wackjobs don't feel encouraged towards it.

LSAClassOf2000

July 17th, 2012 at 10:44 AM ^

The proliferation of media has indeed made the availability heuristic and much of the work of Tversky and Kahneman all too real, in my opinion. Stories like this appear with increasing frequency, so we tend to think of them as more common, when they are more than likely as rare as they have always been. I know they've done studies where people have been asked to estimate the crime rate of a city based solely on news reporting, and they overestimate the frequency of some crimes by 10 to 20 times (more, in a few cases) their actual per capita rate.

Still, it doesn't make stories like this any less tragic and terrible. My thoughts also go out to all who were injured as well as their families.

 

TheLastHarbaugh

July 17th, 2012 at 11:50 AM ^

Don't be such a drama queen.

Things are better than they've ever been, ever.

For example, right now I'm using a magic machine to speak with you, and this machine can instantly connect me to just about anywhere in the world.

I could walk down to an ER, saw off my hand, and they'd fucking put it back on.

Millions of people have died (and still are dying of) diarrhea. In America, people get that shit twice a week from eating Taco Bell.

I can have a dissenting opinion without being burned alive, and do something weird without being called a witch and cast off of a cliff into the ocean.

If I want to go somewhere I can take my driving machine to a flying machine and be anywhere on the Earth in a matter of hours.

The world we live in is fucking magic.

Everyone Murders

July 17th, 2012 at 1:17 PM ^

I think that LastHoke is correct here.  What's most interesting to me is why so many folks come to conclusions similar to the OP's.

I think a lot of it has to do with the (freakin' magic) explosion in communications technology, and the media growth that has quickly followed.  25 years ago, the main sources of news were newspapers, TV news, and magazines.  It was difficult to fit all that much news in the available media space (which is why we have all the AP Handbook writing that lingers on - the conventions in that handbook put a premium on shortening the characters used in a story).  And it was costly to transfer photos, video, etc., whereas now I can take a video with my mobile phone and post it to the world without leaving my car.

Bottom line is that in 1987, there were far fewer news stories available, and editors had to put together a mix that would appeal to all spectra of their audience.  So you couldn't put out 30 negative news stories a day.  Now, we have virtually unlimited space to put content before anyone with a computer, dozens of news stations (most with a 24 hour news cycle), and other outlets.  Bad news sells, and we're increasingly inundated with it.

So it's a reasonable perception that the world's going to hell in a handbasket, but there's lots of evidence that the average person is safer, healthier, etc., than they were in years past.

By the way, while nearly all of us have faced hardships and tragedies, whether the world is a bad place or a good place is not really an objective matter.  A lot of it is in attitude.

brandanomano

July 17th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^

I only get diarrhea once a week from eating Taco Bell, but it lasts all week so I guess your point still applies. And on Mgoblog if you have a dissenting opinion you will have most of, if not all of those things happen to you, so that point is total bullshit. But yeah, magic, bitches. Magic.

Bangkok Soiree

July 17th, 2012 at 10:36 AM ^

Open carry, especially at bars and other drinking establishments. 

There's no better deterrent to shooting violence than every last one of us carrying guns. 

You just never know when somebody's going come up from behind you and shoot you.   

Bangkok Soiree

July 17th, 2012 at 1:55 PM ^

went clear over this guy's head (and I'm afraid others). 

I would have thought the absurdity of the original post would have been enough.  Maybe the saddest thing is that it's not such an absurd post after all, at least in some people's minds. 

TrppWlbrnID

July 17th, 2012 at 10:58 AM ^

say that legal and societal crimes are basis for suspending a football program, i will understand them today when they suggest shutting down 'bama.

oh well

Sten Carlson

July 17th, 2012 at 10:58 AM ^

What drives people to do these kind of things?  It's very simple, anti-depressants -- serotonin uptake inhibitors, or SSRI's. 

If one looks into the most imfamous of these recent incidents one will find that most, if not all, these killers were on SSRI's.  They start having suicidal thoughts, they stop taking their meds, then they're told to go back on them by doctors and family, then BANG, psychotic break!

Very sad state of affairs when phrama corp. profits out weight the greater good of society -- but then, that's nothing new is it?

Sten Carlson

July 17th, 2012 at 11:45 AM ^

That's not a proper analysis of the situation.  What is the percentage of mass shootings/killings today as compared to yesteryear before the 400% increase of SSRI's into the population would be more appropriate.

http://www.naturalnews.com/020406.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/020643.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/758763.stm

http://www.naturalnews.com/034433_SSRI_drugs_children_murder.html

http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/07/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-vio…

I am not saying anything that isn't widely known within the medical and law enforcement communities. 

 

Blazefire

July 17th, 2012 at 11:50 AM ^

You probably shouldn't try to argue correlation as causation on a board with this many engineers and statisticiancs.

An increase in mass killings? Well, how do you define a mass killing? 2? 10? 100? Greater access to firearms and explosives are a simpler, and therefor more likely correct explanation.

More killings taking place by people on anti-depressants? There's also been an increase (orders of magnitude greater, in fact) in people taking anti-depressants that do NOT kill anyone. Clearly, anti-depressants are a cause of reduced violence.

Sten Carlson

July 17th, 2012 at 12:06 PM ^

Several flaws in your argument Blaze.

Access to firearms is FAR MORE restrictive today than it was in the past.  Heck, in the 1930's one could buy a FULLY AUTOMATIC Thompson Sub Machine Gun out of a mail order catalog.  No background check, no waiting period save the time it took to ship. 

You're trying to twist my contention, unfairly I might add.  I am only reporting what is KNOWN within the medical and law enforcement communities -- when they respond to a random mass killing -- like Columbine, VT, etc. -- it is later found that the perpetrators were on SSRI's.  You can sit there and play number/word games with me all you want, that doesn't make your argument correct.  To say that SSRI's clearly reduce violence is saying that the majority of those on SSRI's would commit violent acts if not for their meds.  That is patently false.  However, it is well known that people otherwise not sucidal nor violent have shown and increase in these destructive behaviors while on SSRI's -- fer fok sake dude, it's on the god damn Rx insert!