There is a report that a UT regent has initiated a talk with Saban's agent. What are the chances? I would say 50/50
There is a report that a UT regent has initiated a talk with Saban's agent. What are the chances? I would say 50/50
I said I thought this was a possibility. For whatever reason, I think he leaves Bama (I have no knowledge of the situation, purely a guess). The guys seems to really have something to prove, or is just restless by nature. I think his ego compells him to go.
Doesn't the report say that the meeting was back after the national championship game? So it took place 9 months ago.
Saban has also released a statement saying he's too old to go elsewhere.
And I think he's right. He's 61 and has won multiple titles at Alabama. He doesn't have to worry about job security or building a new staff and a new program and winning over a new base of fans and alumni. Most of college football's legendary coaches retired before they hit 70, and my guess is that he will as well.
answer right quick: Who has the Flight Aware App?
He alao said he wasn't leaving LSU. And then said he wasn't leaving the Dolphins.
I'd leave those places in a cocaine heartbeat too.
he is Nick Satan. He will live forever.
"I'm too old" is coachspeak for "If the NCAA brings the hammer to Tuscaloosa, I will be in Austin faster than you can say, "$10 million a year."
I think Saban was planning to go to Texas, but when he tried to call Dodds to accept the job Dodds was out on a sailboat.
I didn't read it. As I said above, just my epinion, man.
It is simple. Get a raise from Bama. Make no sense for someone who is doing very well to make a lateral move. But might put a scare in bama's booster to give him a raise.
Second, this was rogue regents at Texas talking to Saban's agent, not Saban talking to Texas.
Third, why would Saban want to leave Alabama?
Because it's in Alabama.
is in Texas.
Texas is in Austin, not Texas.
The areas I listed below and their metros are really not that different from any other area in the country. As long as you're not in the sticks of TX, you're fine.
Like Saban is aware of his not-football related surroundings anyway...although he would help keep Austin weird. That's for sure.
Austin is one of the best cities in the country. Houston, Dallas and SA are also all great cities with great suburbs. I'd live in TX in a heartbeat.
No. Austin is the only place in TX that isn't the worst.
I've been all over TX but spent the most time in Dallas. It's a ton of fun.
in particular because of all the historic sites in and around the city. There are five old beautiful missions around, including the Alamo. Not to mention that San Antonio has a ton of art museums. Now Dallas, I don't get that one. It's downtown is sort of non-descript. Other than the aquarium, and the art museum, there is really nothing to do there. Granted, I spent only two days in Dallas.
That being, I am not sure if I would want to actually live in San Antonio. It is fun for a visit. I find most of the big towns in Texas sort of of the non-descript massive crawling suburbia types.
It's a good night life scene, if you're into that sort of thing. I mostly listed SA among the others to point out that TX isn't all backwoods hicks. Like I said, it's mostly like other cities/metros in those areas. Couple that with no state income tax/generally cheaper COL and it's a win-win. Dallas, in my experience, is a cool city for young professionals as well. Just my 2 cents.
Austin is a very nice modernized city. Dallas and San Antonio are both pretty nice also. Houston on the other hand is not my favorite place in the world. It's pretty slummy.....and my in-laws live there.
see earlier comment about young professionals.
That being, I am not sure if I would want to actually live in San Antonio. It is fun for a visit.
kind of like an amusement park
I have spent a lot of time in both Dallas and San Antonio for work. I think Dallas is one of those cities that is not "touristy" but is very, very nice to live in (think Grand Rapids). San Antonio strikes me as more touristy but honestly I would live in either city in a heartbeat.
I'm with Omar. Austin is incredible; Dallas, Houston, Fort Worth, and San Antonio...no. Just no. El Paso/Odessa are each interesting on a drive-through to SoCal, but, yeah, Austin is not like the rest of Texas. Austin is an oasis of awesome in a desert of not-awesome.
He is climbing the latter of insufferable fan bases: MSU--->LSU--->Bama--->Texas
So he'll wrap up his career at Notre Dame?
Austin ain't Texas.
What's wrong with Texas? Just moved around 2 years ago from SoCal and I personally like it better.
And a fair amount of girls I've met from Alabama - either Auburn or Alabama fans - look fantastic in sundresses, which are worn quite often
Link to SBNation's article here - LINK
This reportedly happened soon after Alabama won the National Championship back in January:
"Regent Wallace Hall and former regent Tom Hicks reportedly were on a call with Nick Saban's agent, Jimmy Sexton, after an initial proposition from a person Hall refused to name. The report then adds that Brown was told about the call a few days later, but insisted he was not yet ready to retire, effectively ending the discussions there."
This happened in the off season, and UT regents asked Mac Brown if he would step down, and he refused.
In my opinion, there are only a few schools Saban would even consider, and I believe Texas and USC to be in that group. Sure he's had terrific success at Alabama, but if someone tripled (hypothetically) your salary and allowed you to bring your entire staff with you, you'd have to at least listen.
Why would he go to texas? Money isn't an issue, lateral move.
To prove that he can do it.
He did it with Bama.
After winning 3 out of 4 national titles, he probably needs a new challenge.
5 of 6?
Just can't see that happening. Too late in his career methinks.
This would be a pure money grab by Saban I am wouldn't blame him. The article I just read on ESPN says that contact was made right after the title game last year so I can't imagine Mack is going to be there next year. I bet Texas throws 10 million a year at him and Saban takes it.
this is not going to happen
Texas is a step down at this point. You really can't argue the facilities are better. Plus, he coaches in the best conference. The Texas job isn't what it used to be
If he leaves it's for the league. That's the only place he has something to prove
Until they introduce their next head coach and he says, "This is Texas fergodsakes."
Might wanna be the first Head Coach to win National championships at 3 different schools. A state with a fertile recruiting ground, his own network and a wagon load of money might entice Saban.
I heard Jon Gruden was already interviewed.
It was put in the NCAA rulebook in 2009 that all schools looking for a new head college football coach must have its fanbase and media outlets specuate on hiring Jon Gruden
Well, I did hear Dan Patrick say that he know for sure that Gruden has listened to just about every offer he has been rumored to be entertaining.
That'd be so stupid to leave Alabama, he has an empire recruting wise, and will go down as the best college football coach ever. If he goes to Texas he's going into a much worse division of college football, and is inheriting players no where near as good as his players that he has right now. Leaving for Texas could only have negative results.
Eh, I don't know about that. Texas has the talent to win immediately. I don't really see why he'd want to leave Alabama--but if he did take the Texas job, it wouldn't be a huge reclamation project.
If Saban went to UT, Texas would be thee place to go. They already pull in a lot of great kids in-state. These kids grow up dreaming about playing at Texas. However, in recent years Texas A&M has stolen a ton of UT's thunder. But if Saban were to go to Texas all these instate kids would be drawn to Austin like a magnet.
It would be like if MIchael Jordan would come out of retirement and play for a team that changed their name to somthing goofy like the Wizzards or somthing.
More like MJ coming back to play for the Lakers. Texas isn't exactly the "wizards" of college football.
OP, at least read the article first.
This is a very misleading thread title.
I don't think massblue even reads these stories before he starts threads. He started one last week about how Michigan-Notre Dame was the highest rated regular season college football game in ESPN history, which was also clearly not what the article said.
He really wants the 2 points for starting a thread.
at Alabama, a freaking statue. He is going nowhere. He could make himself Emporer of Alabama and no one would challenge him.
Alabama puts up a statue on any coach that wins a National Championship.
But how many of those other coaches walked away from Bama to coach another school? What if Saban then beats Bama in a NC game? I think a lot of Bama faithful would feel betrayed.
Well yeah. And?
Paterno had a statue and he went to hell.
This made me laugh out loud. Nicely done.
He would be immediately successful recruiting and would no doubt win games. They have the pockets to pay him $10 million a year and no doubt they'd pay it if they could get him
That UT offers. They will also pay recruits more. Money isn't an issue here. Ego may be, but not money. I see a possible NFL deal for Saban, but not another school.
On ESPN at the moment they're talking about this. One of the commentators (bald guy, can't remember his name) seems to think that Jerry Jones is going to open up his wallet and see if Saban can breathe life into the Cowboys. Granted, it's just some ESPN dude filling dead air, but that seems to me to be his more likely route out of 'Bama if he were to consider leaving (which he probably won't).
Les Miles will be the next Dallas coach
I don't see any way he leaves Alabama at this point. I think he likes being king. But every time another school contacts him, he probably uses that to get a pay raise.
I say 96-4 in Bama's favor.
I'm thinking 85-15.
Not saying she's a whore. But she is smoking.
The thread title sucks.
The thread title still sucks.
Saban isn't leaving 'Bama unless it's to give the NFL another shot (and I don't even see that happening). It's true that he's not the most loyal guy in the world, but at 62, he's past the age to be making lateral moves just for the hell of it.
The story is a lot more interesting for the insight it gives into the situation at Texas. Texas has a reverse Bobby Lowder problem. My sense is that the administration at UT wants to move on from Mack Brown, but their biggest booster, billionaire trial attorney Joe Jamail, also happens to be Brown's personal lawyer and close friend (as an aside, that's gotta be some kind of conflict of interest). If the AD pressures Brown to resign, Jamail will not only close his checkbook, he'll sue the school. And Brown has shown no signs of wanting to retire anytime soon, so Texas has got a problem on their hands.
Why would it be a conflict?
Deloss Dodds (current AD) is retiring at the end of the year. Mack becomes the new AD, keeps his fundraising clout at Texas. A new coach will be hired, but whom?
2. Art Briles
I don't see it. Alabama is on top. Sure, he loves to prove himself and build something. I just can't imagine he would leave Alabama. This is all probably being pushed from his agent to get a large contract extension that has never been seen in the college coaching profession.
You often hear coaches say that toughest part of being on top is staying on top. Why not make the move, make a shit ton of money and build another program and prove yourself all over again?
Why? He's on top of the SEC, which is arguably the best conference in the country. Texas isn't what it used to be. He has a machine running at Alabama and I just don't htikn he's going to leave. I don't think money will be an issue. Whatever is thrown at him, Bama will match it.
My point is at this point it's NC or bust. Think about that. If he doesn't win the NC Bama fans will be bitching. Why not move and start at another power? I think he moves based on his history.
"Arguably"? Come on now
What is bigger than being in th SEC and winning? Being outside the conference and knocking them off the percht. Maybe he wants to prove it is Saban, not Saban in the context of the SEC.
They like challenges. Winning NCs is fun but after awhile coaches do want to do something else. They love building programs. Here is an opportunity to build something and build it fast. I think it would be an interesting move by him.
"I'm too old to start over" says it all doesn't it?
Don't believe a word he says to deflect this story. He also said he wasn't leaving Miami and LSU.
He left LSU to give the NFL a shot. He left Miami because the NFL wasn't working out. There isn't another college job worth leaving 'Bama for, particularly when you've built a dynasty there and you walk past a bronze statue of yourself on the way to your office every day.
He will retire from Alabama and NOT coach Texas. The guy is in his early sixties and I can't imagine he wants to leave his dynasty at Alabama, go to Texas, and rebuild that program. Why leave when you're winning as consistently as he is, especially in the best conference? That makes no sense. Alabama is way more prestigious than Texas right now.
Bama doesn't have? This makes no sense and is just arrogant on the part of Texas alumni and fans.
Don't say recruiting ground, because Saban has a top 3 class every year at Bama.
In your world they shouldn't ask someone because its arrogant? You get 100% of what you don't ask for so if you thought Saban was the man and you really want him why wouldn't you ask him. The only foolish thing here would be to assume anyone knows what Saban would say.
But to expect it in anyway makes no sense. UT offers nothing that Bama doesn't. This isn't MSU to LSU. This is elite to supposed to be elite.
My personal assistant has been in touch with Kate Upton's manager about her availability for lunch. About as meaningful/likely.
Better not be tomorrow because we have a lovely day planned. Ruby Tuesdays!!!
This is Saban writing his own check and setting his own salary.
Bama will open there wallet!!! Saban isn't going anywhere but he will play the game.
How can that man play the game and take money like that from a financial institution.
Greed is good.
What's the average annual budget for athletics at your typical division one school? I can't imagine spending 10-20% of an entire athletic budget on ONE man. . .
Small price to pay to obtain that other 80-90%
money (I figure he has more than enough) but his ego is limitless; and it would be easier to be the best in the Big12 and go undefeated than in the ESS-EEE-SEE.
If he built anything like he has at Bama it would be a walk in the park the top seed in the playoffs every season.
You can bet he'll milk Alabama for more money. I'm sensing a contract extension in the works.
Every move he made from MSU to the Dolphins was a step up. Then he realized he made a mistake and wanted to be in college football. He got a job at Alabama, and has been there for 6+ years. Maybe he goes, but it would surprise me.
He didn't go from MSU to The Dolphins. He went from LSU to Dolfins.
He'll probably make Stoops his D.C. and lure Urban Meyer away from Ohio State to be his O.C.
But probable none the less
He's not leaving Bama. What incentive does he have for leaving? He has the most dominant program in America's most dominant conference. He's won 3 of the last 4 national titles and is primed to win a 4th in 5 years. Whatever Texas can pay him, Bama will match and then some. Texas is a premier program, but so is Bama, and Texas has nothing to offer Saban that he doesn't already have in spades.
What incentive does he have to go and rebuild a program from scratch when he can stay at Bama and keep dominating year after year, and have the top recruits pick him? He doesn't have to recruit anymore. His results speak for themselves. The only situation I could see him leaving for is if Belichek retires within a couple of years and asks Saban to take over for him.
And even then, I think Saban learned his lesson from being with the Dolphins. He's at his best when he rules every aspect of his team with an iron fist, and he can't get that in the NFL with scouts, owners and GMs breathing down his neck.
As I said, whatever Texas can pay Saban, Bama will match and then some. Besides, Saban is making so much money now that any more would, to him, likely just be overkill.
like collecting rings, $$$ is about keeping score. Bet your butt that Saban wants to be the top paid coach in addition to all the ncs he has
The supposed talk occurred before the season
Pretty sure Saban shot it down today on the radio.
Because coaches, especially Saban, never lie.
He's absolutely hands down not going to be the coach at Alabama.
Texas has the largest athletic budget in America. He can make the most money there. And it's not like Mack Brown isn't landing great recruits. He's just a great underachiever. Saban would be fine at Texas rebuilding the program.
Will he leave Alabama? Oh God, no. He has a friggin statue of himself on that campus.
Saban was approached last year by TX. He said, and challenges can make people do crazy things, that he and Mack were great friends and he was just too damn old to make a move. I have no doubt if this were to come about, he could, with their crazy high school football talent, put TX right back where it was, probably much faster than he did at Bama inasmuch as the talent needed is on roster already and all future talent is only a visit away. He might have to leave the state to get a great CA qb. This usually works out well and is often the missing piece. CA qbs, for some reason get the best h.s. coaching in America.
How much faster could he do it? Second year Alabama was 12-0 in the regular season and third year they won a national championship after going 14-0.
Maybe sarcasm was omitted,but not inentionally. sorry bout that hoss.
Bama has a nice shoreline and you are actually not that far away from civilization. You got a bit more ground to cover in TX. If I were him, I'd stay put and chase the Bear. No one does it better than him right now, and Bama will match anything they offer. Do you really think Les could have had LSU to the point he did so quickly w/o Saban? Makes me wonder just how little they have to offer in E. Lansing, or is it possible there was a moratorium on NCAA infractions put in place during his time there. That is the funniest thing imaginable about Saban to me anyway. They had him and couldn't make it work, at least to his demanding specs. Auburn would have.
Fair enough. I was just thinking that Saban turned around Bama on a dime. Of course the 08 recruiting class (including Julio Jones and Marc Ingram) and the 09 class (Trent Richardson etc) helped greatly.
I think Texas High School quarterbacks makes better college and nfl players. Stafford, Luck, Brees, Tannehill, Ponder, RGIII, and Dalton are all products from Texas HS.
There's a very good chance both programs are looking for new coaches this year.
I'm betting on Patterson from TCU going to Texas. he knows the state. Winning history, and he had been linked to many job openings at schools that were higher in the conference food chain than TCU.
Peterson to USC. Been sitting at Boise for awhile. We obviously know he wins. plus he's been rumored for some bigger jobs in the past.
On a side note from that. Meyer to Notre Dame after 2015. He has always said Notre Dame was his dream job. Plus Braxton will be gone. And I don't see the Notre Dame faithful staying enamored with Ol' Purple Face.
He could have easily had the job after they fired Charlie Weis, and Notre Dame is either a lateral move or a step down. It could happen, but I just think the odds are pretty low.
But that would be hilarious.
agree to retire (kill) "ESS EEE SEE" ????
SEC would be just fine. Thanks
Oh, and lets also kill "MOAR", that would be great.
This article also said that Texas is talking to Saban, doesn't say anything about the other way around.
No indication that Saban has been involved in anything.