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OT: RR Introductory Zona Press Conference

Interesting to see how he is handling his introductory press conference, and if he has learned from any of his PR mistakes in the past. 

Has made me wince a couple times with some of what he says, but overall he's come directly out and addressed the former players to let them know they are all welcome back.  He clearly doesn't know much about UofA tradition, but did say "I'm not just gonna coach Arizona football, I'm going to live it."

Also mentions that he is frustrated to watch all of Michigan's success this year, because he wishes that he was the one coaching them.  He is proud of all of the players though, because he cares about them and they are his guys.

Overall, I think he's doing a fair job.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:42 PM | Ok.  Beat Ohio. (Score:5 Normal)
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Ok. 

Beat Ohio.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:44 PM | Fair enough (Score:3 Normal)
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Beat Ohio!

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:09 PM | Yes, Beat Ohio goes without (Score:2 Normal)
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Yes, Beat Ohio goes without saying.  Actually it should be said everyday now that I think about it.

Anyway this is a new position for Michigan fans.  Have we ever had a former Michigan football head coach get fired, and wind up a head coach elsewhere?   Moeller went right to the pros, didn't he?

I know some people are irritated by the attention being given to RR during Beat Ohio week, but this is sort of a morbid curiosity type thing.   If RR crashes and burns at Arizona, his critics will be validated and vice versa for his apologists.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 PM | Bump? (Score:0 Normal)
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Bump left to become AD at Iowa.  Gary Moeller coached the Lions for a handful of games.  That's the closest I can come up with.  Schembechler, Elliott, Oosterbaan, Crisler, Kipke, Yost; they all ended their coaching days in Ann Arbor.

Moeller (assistant) went off to become HC at Illinois for a time; but that gets us into a very long list of assistants and players who went off to become head coaches.

I'm not sure what school Lloyd Carr was working for after he retired as Head Coach.

Cracks me up to read people's comments about how we need to focus on Ohio [State].  As if it matters what we read and write this week.

And yeah, I suppose that Coach Rodriguez might continue to be a proxy argument for many of us.  It is a two-way street of course.  If people want to continue to bash him, then there will be people who will defend him.  It is really the haters who need to get over Rodriguez, not his supporters.

I find myself caring less in the wake of his hiring at Arizona, but only because I know how hard it will be to use Arizona's success to shame Rodriguez's local media critics.  The sad thing is that while Rodriguez is gone, we still have the Free Press as a daily feature of our football program.

 

 

 

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November 23rd, 2011 at 12:21 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1 Normal)
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Oh thank god. For a second there I thought you were going to make a whole post without mentioning the Free Press.

Fucking magnets, how do they work?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:48 PM | Apologists? (Score:2 Normal)
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We prefer to be referred to as RR Defenders, because that makes us sound more righteous. No link to the logo and costume; they are still being designed.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 PM | I like the "Beat Ohio" meme. (Score:1)
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I like the "Beat Ohio" meme. Is it always on MGoBlog or is it just new to Michigan football this year?  I feel like in past years it was still Beat Ohio State, or Beat OSU, or Go Blue Beat  OSU.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:44 PM | So no "THIS IS ARIZONA, (Score:5 Normal)
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So no "THIS IS ARIZONA, FERGODSAKES" yet?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 PM | LOL actually not at all... (Score:2 Normal)
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Think a big miss for him at the presser was his "Why not Arizona?  Why not here?" segment.  He went on for a bit talking about this and makes you wonder what exactly his opinion/thought of Arizona football is.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:27 PM | "Who says this isn't an elite (Score:2)
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"Who says this isn't an elite job?!"

Special Teams means special times!

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November 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 PM | "we've had some pretty good (Score:1)
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"we've had some pretty good teams here!"

 

Don't be too enthusiastic Reverend....

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:45 PM | he must know its osu week; he (Score:1)
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he must know its osu week; he just got in a "hold hands and sing kumbaya" joke

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:45 PM | Things of note (Score:2 Normal)
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-He said that all former players are welcome back with open arms.

-The Territorial Cup (rivalry with ASU) will be emphasized everyday.

-Thinks Arizona should be a Top 10 team every year and a power out west.

-Also said that he will live Arizona Football.

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:53 PM | Very good point... (Score:0 Flamebait)
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found it very interesting how much he talked the importance of the ASU rivalry.  Another point he learned from his time here, knowing what's important to the school and your fans.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:45 PM | He told us exactly how he got the job (Score:5 Normal)
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Rita made AD Greg Byrne the magic Nacho Dip.  Stuff's like liquid cocaine.  

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:39 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 PM | Finally (Score:2 Normal)
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As an Arizona student, I am thrilled about this hire. A reason to buy season tickets next year. It'll be just like four years ago. I'm excited to see them get trampled and then ultimately attain the vindication that we (not to mention RR+staff) were all denied. It's like missing the end of a movie and going home to see it on your television. 

 
 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 PM | I'd be excited, too.  I think (Score:5 Normal)
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I'd be excited, too.  I think good times are ahead for Arizona football.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 PM | You should be thrilled. (Score:1 Normal)
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If you guys get a staff that includes Rodriguez, Casteel and Calvin Magee, you are going to have some very big fun with your football program.  I might suggest that you just got the Lute Olson of football, but given Coach Olson's later uneven personal history, that might be inappropriate adulation for Coach Rodriguez.

Arizona is a really lucky football program right now.

 

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 PM | hows arizona's offensive personnel? (Score:1)
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Rich Rod got anything to work with?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:46 PM | Any singing (Score:1)
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or hand holding yet? Seriously though.....good luck to Rich Rod.  I would imagine he would LOVE the opportunity to play us in Pasadena someday.

O-Fo-Sho

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 PM | So... (Score:2 Normal)
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Who else is buying an arizona hat?

Formerly known as PahokeePahokee

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 PM | If I'm wearing a hat, it's a (Score:5 Normal)
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If I'm wearing a hat, it's a Michigan hat.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 PM | Hats (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't always wear hats, but when I do, I prefer Michigan hats.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 PM | Agreed its been hit or miss... (Score:3 Normal)
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You can tell he's learned from his time here.  He said he was going to learn as much as he can about the traditions there from former players, etc.  He said he plans to get out and meet the fans.  He stressed how they will continue to recruit the key areas for AZ and focus on them.

The opening made me wince as he spoke of his son being in the Top 5 QB class of 2017, who was a decomit from WVU then a decomit from Michigan but he's a commit of AZ and "don't worry he won't decomit".  Thought this was a very odd way of opening his presser.

He's still a little bitter as he continually talks about everyone (fans, admin, etc) pulling in the same direction and all supporting.  But did like the little shout out to Michigan and the players, he definitely didn't want to talk about Michigan but said that we're good and will be good for a long time.

One point of the presser was the stressing of RichRod being a leader of compliance, a move to help calm the minds of the fans.

He did say this will be his last coaching stop, which I'm sure is alot of PR but he touched on that a few times and was interesting.

Good luck RichRod, best to you and your fam.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 PM | H's justified about being a (Score:4 Insightful)
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He's justified about being a little bitter about not everyone pulling in the same direction.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:51 PM | O Let do It?!?!? (Score:4 Normal)
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Does Demar Dorsey to Arizona make too much sense?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:04 PM | someone tagged this post as (Score:3 Normal)
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someone tagged this post as funny, but i bet it's a real possibility.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 PM | Anything Can Happen (Score:1)
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   That would be hilarious, I personally think (i.e. guess) that if Demar doesn't walk on at UM (doubtful) that he ends up at Tennessee

"Slappin' the Bass" - Matt Vogrich (maybe)

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:53 PM |   "I think the huddle the (Score:4 Normal)
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"I think the huddle the biggest waste of time in football."  HALOL

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 PM | Can anyone honestly disagree (Score:0 Overrated)
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Can anyone honestly disagree with him? What does a huddle buy you other than burning time so that you don't get to the line too quickly when you are trying to run clock?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:03 PM | It could've helped keep his (Score:5 Normal)
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It could've helped keep his 110th ranked defense off the field last year.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 PM | Bc (Score:2)
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because it's such a good time-waster?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 PM | You do realize that you can (Score:2 Normal)
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You do realize that you can run the play clock down without a huddle, right?

c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 PM | A little extra (Score:3 Normal)
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time for your defense to rest.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 PM | Serious (Score:2 Normal)
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Not sure if serious, but it is much more tiring for a defense on the field facing a no huddle.

Look it's simple math if they run more plays they'll score more points.  A hurry up spread will never have the best statistical defense because they play more plays.  If Oregon played Arizona they would run the amount of plays equivalent to a regular 5 qtr game.   More plays more points.   Old school offensive and defensive numbers are skewed when you play uptempo.    

 

 

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 PM | Drives me nuts watching my son's team do it (Score:1)
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Just a waste of time.  I fully agree that there's no useful purpose for it at all.

 

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:03 PM | Did you watch the end of the (Score:0 Flamebait)
BlueGoM
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Did you watch the end of the Iowa game ???  IIRC we burned up about 20-30 seconds at a time we could have used them.

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 PM | Did you watch the 9 games (Score:4 Normal)
jg2112
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Did you watch the 9 games Michigan won this year?

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 PM | Settle down there, guy.  It's (Score:4 Normal)
BlueGoM
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Settle down there, guy.  It's going to be OK.  Take a breath.

There are times foregoing the huddle is a good thing.  Numerous teams do well without it.

 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:04 PM | Sure (Score:1 Normal)
michgoblue
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And numerous teams do not. 

With one of the worst defenses in college football, there is something to be said for slowing down the game.  And, with a QB who is interception happy (late last year, in particular), it may have made sense to slow it down a bit.

I agree, however, that there are times when no-huddle makes sense.  The problem with RR is that he seems to think that everything is black or white - no middle.  The huddle "is the biggest waste of time."  Or "I will only run a spread option, even though my QB is Nick Sheridan" or "I will continue to run a 3-3-5 even though my DC doesn't know how to run it and it is not working." 

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 PM | Did you watch the previous 2 (Score:1)
Michael
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Did you watch the previous 2 teams to play in the national title game?

c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 PM | Did (Score:5 Normal)
FreeTheFabFivePlz
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You watch modern family this week?

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
Michael
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c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

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November 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 PM | Modern Family Airs on (Score:2)
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Modern Family

Airs on Wednesdays

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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 PM | I agree w/ him, just thought (Score:2)
dosleches
Joined: 05/18/2010
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I agree w/ him, just thought it was funny he came out and said it.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 PM | That was a little surreal to (Score:2)
Corey
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That was a little surreal to watch, honestly

"Are you coming to bed?"
"I can't."
"Why not?"
"Someone is WRONG on the internet."
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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:00 PM | I've spoken with him directly... (Score:5 Normal)
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I've spoken with him directly (albeit very brief) and he's certainly still hurt by the Michigan situation and he told me it's a love/hate thing in watching them. He wants to see them do well, yet, he feels like this year he could've had the same success with this team.

He was calling our game so I just told him good luck with the broadcast, told him not all Michigan fans are like what you see and hear (and he said "you know, I get that more now than you'd believe...so many people go out of their way to say. Sorry Coach, we wish you the best, we're not all bad!")

It was literally a 90 second convo, but I came away feeling:
#1 He truly does love those guys and loved Michigan
#2 He's still very bitter and feels he got the "raw deal"
#3 He thinks he'd have 9, 10, 11 wins with this team
#4 He still doesn't "get it"
#5 He'll never "get it"
#6 He's had these conversations more than he's wanted to
#7 His ego is hurt because people see him as a "loser" or "failure" rather than a great coach
#8 People think he didn't care about the guys, and that eats him up more than anything

Personally I disagree that this team would be as good as it is now...you can't outscore everyone in the Big Ten and that offense never proved it could work in November. Weather, tougher teams, ball control always hurt that offense. Van Bergan talked about how ball control hurt the defense too. And you had teams that played keepaway, like we did with Nebraska...and ran the ball 50 times in a row *cough* Wisconsin *cough*. Denard could've been awesome, but what's he going to do with 5 possession, feeling like he's gotta put up 35 points or they lose?

I do think he loves the players...not so much Michigan, but I think he cares about this team. I also think that he's going to have trouble getting over his 3 years at Michigan.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 PM | Wow, you hit hard in your (Score:4 Normal)
turd ferguson
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Wow, you hit hard in your 90-second introductions.  I'm lucky if I get through the weather in the first 90 seconds that I meet someone.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 PM | Kind of my job... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Kind of my job...not to speed interview. But I just went to check and see if they needed anything. That took 5 seconds, and then I had to introduce myself and I did so by saying I was a Michigan fan. So we chatted for like I said a couple minutes and he went back inside the booth.

You just get the feeling he truly believes he had something special coming this year. I'd have to agree to disagree because I never saw that offense do anything vs. a real defense.

I've seen him in interview talk about how proud and how well they played vs. Illinois. That tells me he just doesn't get it. 3 OTs vs. ILLI-FREAKING-NOIS!?! 60-something points?! At home!? No way. I was proud of THIS YEARS team for how they went down there and handled business.

Talk about Malzahn all you want. He had the best player in college football and a QB who was big enough to withstand the hits of the SEC. Same with Tebow. Denard can't be compared to either of those guys.

However, if you put Denard out in the Pac-12 in November on Rich Rod's Arizona team, I'm sure you get something that'll look like Oregon. Those leagues, climates, style of play, everything is different. Stanford, Cal, Washington and USC may play like the B1G, everyone else...not so much. Other than Washington, who isn't that good...you're not going to have to go deal with weather in those games for the most part. Other than USC, you're not going to have to deal with a physical OSU, Wisky, MSU, PSU, Nebraska (now Michigan) style defense. It's different. Period.

Anyway, back to the story...like I said, part of me feels bad for the guy. Part of me wishes he'd just get over himself and realize that he could've done something to help his cause. Hiring a defensive coordinator and letting him do his thing with HIS staff would've been start. Learning the B1G. Having a smoother transition so you don't dig yourself into such a whole. If Michigan goes 6-6, 7-5, 8-4...Rich Rod might still be here.

All in all, I wish him the best...I'm just not worried about him. Because as much as I wanted to agree that he got the raw deal...the fact that he doesn't believe he did anything bothers me just as much to the point where I'm like "f-it...Rich who?"

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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