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December 8th, 2011 at 4:19 PM | I Can't believe they brought up Josh Groban... (Score:4 Normal)
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Kind of classless.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:21 PM | come on, people who do stuff (Score:5 Normal)
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come on, people who do stuff like that should have to deal with it for the REST OF THEIR LIVES

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:20 PM | go away! This is nowhere near (Score:-1 Normal)
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go away! This is nowhere near Arizona

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:26 PM | (Score:5 Normal)
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RANT: huge is a tool the only guy to grow up in sparta work in chicago for two years then come back to work in michigan for years later and still somehow retain a chicago accent like he grew up there. him and yes men brian van ogden and his producer muller have a 3 hour live circle jerk its ridiculous that i am forced to listen to him while at work. FUCK!

anyways why in the blue hell would RR or huge agree to this interview?

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:30 PM | Why did Huge do it?  The same (Score:3 Normal)
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Why did Huge do it?  The same reason any media personality schedules an interview - to attract listeners.  He's got us talking about his show for the first time in forever.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:34 PM | Commas needed. (Score:5 Normal)
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Commas needed.

Sent From My Commodore 64

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:40 PM | (Score:0 Normal)
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ya sorry about the grammar im on my phone so im just trying to write fast. also touche jmblue you are right usually he makes such ridiculous statements about sports it drives me nuts everyday at work but i guess he did accomplish what he was looking for.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:58 PM | Your grammar literally hurts me as (Score:5 Normal)
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I read your posts. It takes 20 extra second to add punctuation and spell out "yeah." The fact that people here actually use grammar and spell words correctly makes this blog different than so many others.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:20 PM | "Different from" is better (Score:3 Normal)
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"Different from" is better usage.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:24 PM | Not really.  (Score:5 Normal)
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Not really. 

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:39 PM | Well I'm sorry my phone (Score:2 Funny)
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Well I'm sorry my phone usually puts in the commas and things like that, so for the bad grammar I apologize. I hope that I don't burn in hell over my shitty grammar and I hope that someday I'll get my shit together. Despite my bad grammar on my most recent post, I am thinking I still have a good shot at getting accepted to MSU or any other SEC school. Fingers crossed. Have a great day everyone.

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:53 PM | Barely and (Score:1)
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only if ur Daddy do dollars!

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December 8th, 2011 at 8:24 PM | I wasn't going to say anything (Score:1)
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But writing this defensive comment probably took you far longer than spelling out "yeah".  OP Y U NO SAVE TIME?

But in all seriousness, it's the internet.  Don't get too mad?

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:55 PM | Phonetically. (Score:2)
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Phonetically:than

differnt?

 

Who is Jon Falk?
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December 8th, 2011 at 4:40 PM | (Score:0 Overrated)
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ya sorry about the grammar im on my phone so im just trying to write fast. also touche jmblue you are right usually he makes such ridiculous statements about sports it drives me nuts everyday at work but i guess he did accomplish what he was looking for.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:27 PM | thanks for the link. (Score:1)
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thanks for the link.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:28 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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My takeaways. Wanting to schedule M was overblown. He thinks that he would have been 10-2 or better. No more Josh Groban, ever.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:44 PM | Did he actually say "10-2 or (Score:4 Normal)
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Did he actually say "10-2 or better"?

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:52 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Yes

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:36 PM | Well, this may be the first (Score:5 Normal)
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Well, this may be the first unforgivable thing RR has said since being fired. It's a really petty way to minimize the obvious accomplishments of Hoke et al. He should stop talking so much. I heard he also said he had nothing but walk-on QBs when he got to Michigan. How can anyone take people like this seriously?

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:53 PM | you really expect a supremely (Score:4 Normal)
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you really expect a supremely confident guy who was head coach of a program that's since had more success than he had with the guys he brought in is going to say something other than that?  i'm pretty sure brady's not offended.  

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:56 PM | Come on.... (Score:-1 Overrated)
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What should he have said?  Less than 10 wins?

Huge asked the question.  He responded.  Getting butt hurt about it because you feel like making some inference as to the meaning of the response is absolutely silly.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:16 PM | "Well, it's hard to say. (Score:5 Normal)
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"Well, it's hard to say. There's so much that goes into any season, into any game, really."

"I don't think of it in terms of numbers. It's about improving the team game to game."

Anything like the above would do. But saying in clear terms that you could have done as good as or better than your replacement is just lame.

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:21 PM | Hokian Answer? (Score:5 Normal)
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You're dead on, Jack, and got me to thinking how Hoke would answer this question.  My best guess:

"Welllll, it's hard to know how we'd have done, but for certain, I feel great for the kids-especially the seniors-that have worked their tails off and deserve every bit of that success.  So good for them.  They deserve it."

Because I'm old and grouchy

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December 8th, 2011 at 9:59 PM | Unfotunately (Score:3 Normal)
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I had some experience with some brutal office politics (nothing NEAR what RR went through given the public nature of his job, but enough where I broke one night and cried on my wife's shoulder, which is something I just never do, for better or worse).  A retired friend reached out to me in the middle of it all and essentially said to stay classy; in the end, people would see things for what they were.  You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT that you're hurt and want to fire back, but that was some of the best professional advice I've gotten.  Sincerely, I'm not trying to knock Rich, but he'd benefit from following that advice as well.

Because I'm old and grouchy

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December 8th, 2011 at 7:11 PM | I actually heard the replay (Score:2 Normal)
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on the way home from work.....

Huge asked RR if he thought that he would have been 10-2.  RR said that he did "or better."  In the context of the question, it was an appropriate answer.  He then acknowledged that certain measurables would need to go their way for that to happen.

RR handled the interview about as well as you could expect.  He was confident in himself and the players he recruited.  He acknowledged that there needed to be some changes but felt they were on the way to great things.  He also made an unsolicited point to praise the new staff on their accomplishments on more than one occasion.

RR was not making it out to be about him versus Hoke, even though Huge was setting him up for that opportunity.  If you had actually heard the interview, you would be able to make that determination for yourself.  Instead, you make assumptions based on comment on this blog.

The last thing I heard RR say in the interview.... "I don't care to dwell on it." In regards to Huge prodding him about what he might have changed. " I've moved on.  They've moved on."   Perhaps you should either listen to the complete interview before attacking his character or just.... move on.

 

 

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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December 8th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | Exactly, I heard the (Score:1 Normal)
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Exactly, I heard the interview.  Coach Rod always gets his words blown out of proportion.  I think he does need to stop doing some of these interviews.  His words on print do not do it justice.  He tries to be honest and he gets killed for it.

Example, he talks about wanting to play UM and says it gets blown out of proportion about playing UM. 

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December 8th, 2011 at 7:29 PM | If you think "or better" was an appropriate response... (Score:4 Normal)
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...what do you think would have been inappropriate?

I can think of a lot of ways he could have answered or not answered the question and I'm having trouble coming up with anything worse.

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:20 PM | yes, audio here: (Score:1)
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http://www.wbbl.com/sectional.asp?id=23371

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December 8th, 2011 at 7:09 PM | Thanks for posting (Score:-1 Trolling)
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People really should listen to this before commenting.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:45 PM | 8-4 at best under RichRod (Score:4 Normal)
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instead of slighting UM he needs to reflect on why he had among the nation's worst defense 3 years running and led the country in negative turnover margin.  Why would that have changed in 2011?  10-2 my arse.  Maybe 8-4.  Maybe.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:45 PM | RR's mouth says (Score:5 Normal)
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RR's mouth says "We'd be 10-2 or better" even as RR is rehiring Gibson at Zona.  I just can't buy that.

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December 8th, 2011 at 8:32 PM | Don't be ridiculous (Score:1 Normal)
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Hey, another guy took all of the players you recruited and went 10-2.  Do you think you could have gone 10-2?

Are you going to say "No, I think we would have went 8-4 and I deserved to get fired?"

All coaches at that level have to be supremely confident in themselves.  Poll coaches who have teams in the top 25, I bet you each of them will tell you that but for a few plays, they would be undefeated and in the national title game.  If you're anything other than supremely confident and think that you couldn't go 12-0, you should probably get out of the coaching profession.

So should he have said it?  Probably not.  However, he's already been fired, I'm not sure what else you want.

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:49 PM | Thanks for the summary (Score:5 Normal)
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I love RR and will cheer for him at Zona.  I trust when he says he would have been 10-2 or better he is using a hypothetical where the defense and special teams played like they did this year.  Unfortunately, we all know that would not have happened but for Hoke, Mattison, Montgomery.  Still love the guy and his optimism and am hoping Zona becomes a force in the PAC.

"close your mouth and open your mind" - Al Borges

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:41 PM | If Hoke, Mattison, Mongomery (Score:3 Normal)
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If Hoke, Mattison, Mongomery and Mallory were coaching his defense, then he might have even went undefeated.  While we're pretending to live in fantasyland, I'd be married to a supermodel, be a billionaire and buy this blog so I could give myself the most MGo points.

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December 8th, 2011 at 10:13 PM | 2 out of 3 (Score:2)
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Ain't bad.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:38 PM | publically Rich will say it was overblown (Score:1 Normal)
energyblue1
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But the fact that it was even mentioned by he and the zona ad tells you how bad Rich wan'ts it.  He feels he didn't get the support and the fact is he got more money and resources to do whatever he wanted on the football field at Michigan then 8 other bigten schools ever dream of.  He had a larger recruiting budget, top flight facilities, and more money for assistants offered him then 8 other bigten schools and yet he doesn't feel he had support.

 

 

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December 8th, 2011 at 4:46 PM | Those 8 other Big Ten schools (Score:5 Normal)
hart20
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don't expect to be competing for National Championships, Rose Bowl berths, and Big Ten Championships either. You're kidding yourself if you think Rich Rod received all the support he needed and deserved as a coach at Michigan.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:31 PM | The problem with this line of (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
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The problem with this line of reasoning is that a lot of those "Little 8" schools beat us during RR's three years.  If it was just a matter of us not being able to compete with OSU and PSU, he'd probably still be here.  But it wasn't.  We struggled against every conference opponent.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:41 PM | Doesn't that further the (Score:1 Overrated)
Carcajous
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Doesn't that further the point that he didn't get the support he needed??

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:45 PM | (Score:4 Normal)
TSimpson77
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That has nothing to do with coaching and teaching players to play the game. I'm sick of hearing about how he never got the support blah blah blah. Fact is the same defense he had that was #110 in the country is now #18 and the offense is still very good.

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:10 PM | You haven't read Three And (Score:-1 Trolling)
champswest
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You haven't read Three And Out have you?

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

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December 8th, 2011 at 6:52 PM | I did (Score:5 Normal)
michgoblue
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And quite frankly, it did nothing to explain:

(1) why RR hired GERG;

(2) Why RR forced GERG to run a defense that he didn't know and that obviously wasn't working;

(3) why RR won a total of 6 B10 games over three years;

(4) why RR let a team to lose to a MAC school in Toledo that, even if you accept the decimeted defense, walk-on QB, and all of the other excuses, still was at a massive talent deficiency;

(5) why Molk recently said that Hoke emphasized the Ohio game 1000 times more than RR; or

(6) why RR chose to come on to campus, knowing very little about our culture and trasitions, and proceeded to fire every single assistant coach that could have eased the transition.

 

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December 8th, 2011 at 7:33 PM | This Toledo thing is really (Score:-1 Overrated)
MileHighWolverine
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This Toledo thing is really starting to piss me off. Did you see Steve Threet throw a pick 6 to cost us the game? If he could complete ANY kind of pass we probably win but he was terrible. He transfered to ASU and showed no improvement what-so-ever.

GERG, though, was an unforgivable sin....damn RRod for that silver haired bastard.

And there is no way he would have been 10-2. 9-3 at best but we would have had a HELL of an offense. It would have been OSU every game (probably even MSU).

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December 8th, 2011 at 10:55 PM | He transfered to ASU and (Score:4 Normal)
jmblue
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He transfered to ASU and showed no improvement what-so-ever.

This is not true at all. Compare his 2008 statistics at Michigan with his 2010 stats at ASU:

2008 - 51.0% comp., 1,105 yards, 5.53 YPA, 9 TD, 7 INT, 105.3 rating

2010 - 61.9 comp., 2,534 yards, 7.65 YPA, 18 TD, 16 INT, 133.4 rating

His TD:INT ratio didn't improve, but otherwise he became a much better QB in every way.

Anyway, I have a problem blaming the entire Toledo game on that one play. Shouldn't we have been able to win a game against a bad MAC team, pick six or not?

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December 8th, 2011 at 11:47 PM | Wasn't the pick six in the (Score:4 Normal)
Tkriz
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Wasn't the pick six in the first quarter? We couldn't rally from 7 down in the 1st quarter vs Toledo? I was a supporter for the most part, but give it up. RR's time here was awful.... No d, turnovers galore, etc, etc.

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December 8th, 2011 at 8:23 PM | Gonna give RR the benefit of (Score:1 Normal)
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Gonna give RR the benefit of the doubt on #1 on your list.  I'm pretty sure he didn't expect GERG's only defensive tactic to be a stuffed beaver.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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December 8th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | What does Three and Out have (Score:5 Normal)
The Barwis Effect
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What does Three and Out have to do with calling a fake punt from deep in your own territory against MSU, and then, when it fails miserably, blaming it on your poor punter saying in the post-game presser, "he was supposed to kick it"?

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:51 PM | No.  It furthers the point (Score:5 Normal)
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No.  It furthers the point that he had a hard time coaching in general.

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December 8th, 2011 at 5:52 PM | I don't follow your (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
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I don't follow your reasoning.  If, as suggested above, RR received better support from his administration than every other school in the league besides OSU and PSU, how would that justify regularly losing to the other schools?  Against Big Ten schools other than OSU/PSU - the schools that we didn't have an institutional disadvantage against - his record was still a dismal 6-12.

 

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