M_FAN

August 11th, 2011 at 8:34 PM ^

Who will be the other team to even things out in the SEC... The start of power conferences?  Things will get crazy if it's true!

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MI Expat NY

August 11th, 2011 at 8:41 PM ^

I wouldn't be surprised to see the ACC lose either Clemson of FSU and then the ACC poach someone from the Big East.  

I also think there would be a strong possibility of the Big XII staying together with nine teams. ESPN doesn't want mega conferences.  Texas won't be happy anywhere, and there would be so many questions for the rest of the conference that I could see them staying together.  

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dayooper63

August 11th, 2011 at 8:42 PM ^

If you want ND in the Big 10, you better hope The SEC takes either Clemson, VaTech, or FSU.  You want the ACC to pluck one of the big football hitters in the conference.  With the BCS contract p in a couple of years, it's possible that the Big East could lose it's auto bid pushing ND out of the BCS consideration.  WVU, Syracuse, or Pitt might do the trick.  It's a stretch, but possible.

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PhillipFulmersPants

August 11th, 2011 at 9:05 PM ^

times. I can't make heads or tails of it.   If Big 10 fans want ND, we're to hope the SEC plucks an ACC team? And then we want "the ACC to pluck one one of the big hitters in the conference" ... what conference would that be? 

The Big East could lose its BCS auto bid after the contracts up, and that would push Notre Dame out of BCS consideration? How does the Big East potentially losing an auto bid have anything to do with Dame and its position with respect to the BCS? 

WVU, Cuse or Pitt might do the trick? Okay. Seems like an possible solution to something. Perhaps.

I love the last sentence. Excellent summary of ... well, again, I don't know what.

 

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UM2k1

August 12th, 2011 at 7:06 AM ^

The gist is that if Big East loses someone (and thus their autobid), they would then try and force ND's hand by telling them all or nothing (ND competes in Bog Easy,except football). The conventional thinking is that ND would then end up in big ten (better football, natural rivalries, etc. ).

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Mr Miggle

August 11th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^

Clemson seems like the best fit, possibly FSU. I don't know if the SEC is putting a premium on expanding their markets like the B1G.

If they're going to raid the Big XII it could get interesting. OU and Ok St were supposed to be a package deal, Missouri looks likes a good candidate if they only want one.

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Talcelm

August 11th, 2011 at 8:37 PM ^

Well who does the B1G bring in to counter?? We sure as hell don't want the SEC being the first mega conference!! I vote either K-State n Kansas for the basketball or Oklahoma n Ok St for baseball n football. I kinda fear round 2 of expansion....

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FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2011 at 8:47 PM ^

It will depend on the new BCS contracts coming up in a few years.  I would stay independent if I were them.  They have had pretty easy schedules lately because of their independance, so why would they want to give that up and go to a murder's row of a conference?  Notre Dame is a national brand, and if they go undefeated, they'll most likely be in the NG game, especially if every other good team gets into a super conference where they have to play 9 game schedules where they will most likely suffer more losses.  It'll be good buisness for ND to stay independent in that senario.  Now, let's say the BCS wises up and basically says "you need to play a tough schedule, or you're not getting into the BCS", they they will need to get into a conference.  I don't see that happening, but I would love to be wrong.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2011 at 9:22 PM ^

Ok, that's a good point.  I suppose if the advent of super conferences meant that teams would have to play like 10 or 11 conference games, then OOC match-ups would take huge hit.  In that senario (which would be sad in my opinion), I can see teams telling ND to get stuffed, and that would really hurt them.  But if the super conference means you still just play a 9 game schedule or something like that, there's still room for those games against ND.

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Mr Miggle

August 11th, 2011 at 9:49 PM ^

I actually think the reverse is true. Let's just say we went back to a round-robin with ten teams. A non-conference schedule of two cupcakes and Notre Dame every year wouldn't really make anyone happy. Add in more teams, different regions and added variety in conference schedules. That's fewer of your traditional rivals and having ND on the schedule every year makes more sense, at least to me.

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Zone Left

August 11th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^

The way the system is structured, Mega Conferences probably helps ND unless the BCS entry rules are changed. Any Big 12/Big East teams left without a home will need opponents and could use their combined muscle to make the independent teams a little more powerful.

That said, I don't think it'll happen.

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MI Expat NY

August 11th, 2011 at 8:46 PM ^

What actually changes for the Big Ten?  We could have gone to 16 last round, but evidently decided if we couldn't add ND/Texas it wasn't worth it.  I can't see the calculation changing just because the SEC is suddenly up to 13/14.  And frankly, who cares if the others go to the Pac-12?  That converence is never going to be worth as much money just because of the culture out there.

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MI Expat NY

August 12th, 2011 at 8:34 AM ^

Yep, it's ND or nothing.  Texas is on the road to independence and, like I said above, everyone else was attainable last time around and we determined it wasn't worth it.  The thing is, I don't see ND being affected at all by this move.  In fact, adding another independent power probably makes their scheduling easier, and I doubt they'd mind if another few schools got left out of conferences.  Even if the Big East folds as a football conference, as long as the basketball side is still viable, ND will be happy, especially if there are suddenly a few Big 12/Big East schools that are independent making it easier to schedule.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2011 at 8:40 PM ^

Shit just got real

I should add that I don't really mind conference reallignment as long as there are no independents.  And this probably means Texas is going to become indepndent.  And that sucks for the rest of college football.

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1464

August 11th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^

There are so many aspects of this that beg to be discussed.

Will this affect Texas by bringing the SEC closer to home?  How many recruits will want to gear up for a solid SEC team, rather than a B12/Indy team that may need to make a reactionary move to stay on top?  Not saying they'd become irrelevant but they may lose some gusto.

Will this trigger the mass exodus away from the Big12?  If so does Texas stay independent, or is there a conference fist fight for their services?

How would this change the climate of the other conferences?  Mizzou to the Big 10?  Does it put more pressure on ND to find a stable roost?

All in all, this has been quite an amazing offseason for football...

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FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2011 at 8:42 PM ^

I would say Texas going independent is quite good for them, just as it is for ND.  They can make easier schedules, make good contracts that get them into the BCS, and thus have more opportunities at championships.  Not that they weren't doing bad for themselves in recent history, but this still makes things easier for them.  They also don't need to worry about money because their fat TV contract has them sitting pretty.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^

Not so well because ND keep making moronic coaching hires.  But Texas has a great coach in a fantastic recruiting area and has won 10 or more games like 9 times in the past 10 years or something like that.  And now they get to pretty much make their own schedules?   Looks good for them.  Granted, I'm sure they would keep some marquee games against OK and A&M.  But in today's system of the BCS, strength of schedule doesn't matter nearly as much as it used to for big time programs.  Just go undefeated and you're basically garuenteed a spot in the NC game, especially if everyone else is kicking the shit out of each other in super-conferences.

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TrueBlue2003

August 11th, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^

They made two BCS bowls under Weis with two-loss teams that probably would have had more losses if they were in a good conference.  The easier schedule allowed them to be in range to be picked by the BCS and they were because they are ND.  Those are big payday's for an independent that doesn't need to share the money with a conference.

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